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Prabhupada:
mayy asakta-manah partha
yogam yunjan mad-asrayah asamsayam samagram mam yatha jnasyasi tac chrnu [Bg. 7.1] Mr. (indistinct) Swami, Ladies and Gentlemen, first of all, I thank you very much for kindly coming here and participating in this Krsna consciousness movement. As I have already explained last night, that originally we are all Krsna conscious. Just like each of, each of every one of us is conscious somehow or other. Everyone knows, "I am the son of such and such gentleman.'' Similarly, originally we were all Krsna conscious, because Krsna said that mamaivamso jiva bhuta: [Bg. 15.7] "All the living entities, they are My part and parcel.'' In another place Krsna said, aham bija-pradah pita. Sarva-yonisu kaunteya [Bg. 14.4]. All the forms of living entity that are manifest, they are all sons of the supreme father, Krsna. In other religion, just like Christian religion, they accept the supreme father: "O father, give us our daily bread,'' they pray in the church. But they do not know the name of the father. That is the difficulty. But one who is Krsna conscious, he knows what is the name of his original father, what does He do, where He lives, what is His personal feature, what is His pastimeeverything. Therefore Krsna says here, asamsayam samagram mam yatha jnasyasi tac chrnu [Bg. 7.1]. Everyone is anxious to know, at least (indistinct) men, what is God, what is our relationship with Him, how He looks, where He lives. These are naturally inquisitiveness of any sane man. So here in the Bhagavad-gita the Personality of Godhead Himself speaks about Himself. We have to simply accept it, that's all. You haven't got to make any research where is God, what is God, where does He live, what does He do. Here is everything.
So unfortunately, God is canvassing Himself personally, and still we are unaware of Him. Why? Because there is one verse which you will see in Caitanya-caritamrta. Caitanya-caritamrta... Here two honorable Justices are present, and I can recite that verse. It is in Bengali. It is said that caitanya-daya katha karaha vicara. The author is placing the quantity of mercy as given by Caitanya Mahaprabhu to the judgment of the public. Caitanya-daya katha karaha vicara. It is not something we have accepted blindly as faith. No. It is a fact. It is a science. It is an authority. Therefore we place before the Justices for judgment, caitanya-daya katha karaha vicara vicara karite citte pabe camatkara. If you wait for the judgment, then when you hear the judgment you will find, ah, a great ecstasy you will enjoy. This is Krsna consciousness. If you kindly try to understand the Krsna consciousness movement with cool head, I mean, I mean to say right judgment, you will find ecstasy. Otherwise Krsna..., to understand Krsna is very difficult. Krsna says Himself,
manusyanam sahasresu
kascid yatati siddhaye yatatam api siddhanam kascin mam vetti tattvatah [Bg. 7.3] To understand Krsna is not very easy task. Krsna says, manusyanam sahasresu: "Out of millions and millions persons, kascid, someone may try to make his life successful, human life.'' kascid yatati siddhaye.
This human form of life is especially meant for God realization, not for any other business. But people do not try for it. In Srimad-Bhagavatam it is said, nayam deho deha-bhajam nr-loke kastan kaman arhate vid-bhujam ye [SB 5.5.1], that we should not, especially this human form of body... There are 8,400,000 forms of bodycats, dogs, trees, plants, insectsso many. So this form of life, human form of life, it is worth that, nayam dehah, nr-loke, which means you are born in the human society. Nayam deho deha-bhajam nr-loke kastan kaman arhate vid-bhujam ye [SB 5.5.1]. Kastan means we have to satisfy the necessities of our body. That is a fact. Ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithunam cathese are the necessities of the body. So we have to satisfy them, that is a fact, but not with great difficulty, kastan kaman. Kastan kaman means... Kaman means the demands of the body. But we should not take up a civilization which teaches to fulfill the necessities of our life with great labor, kastan kaman, because that kind of civilization is existing amongst the hogs and dogs. They are working whole day and night. So perfection of human life is not (to) increase our industrial enterprise or economic development or so many things we are now planning. The perfection of human life is to understand Krsna, to understand God. If you have got any objection to speak "Krsna'' as the name of Godyou may havebut actually, if there can be any name of God, that is "Krsna.'' Krsna means all-attractive. All-attractive. That is defined in the sastra. So Krsna, when He was present as a historical person... Krsna is also a historical person, because five thousand years ago He appeared on this planet and He took His birth in Mathura, and He was raised as a cowherd boy in Vrndavana, then He went to Dvaraka. In this way His life is explained in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. So Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead comes here, yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati [Bg. 4.7]. That is a fact. He comes in one day of Brahma after millions of years. These have been described in the sastra. But unfortunately, although Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead explains Himself, we unfortunate creature, we take Him as ordinary person. Avajananti mam mudha manusim tanum asritam [Bg. 9.11]. That we should know. That is taught by Krsna Himself in the form of Lord Caitanya. He has given such a nice program that although it is very difficult to understand Krsna, as Krsna says Himself,
manusyanam sahasresu
kascid yatati siddhaye yatatam api siddhanam kascin mam vetti tattvatah [Bg. 7.3] To understand Krsna as a historical person, that He took His birth in the family of Yadu-vamsa, Yadu dynasty, and then He was carried to His foster father, Nanda Maharaja, and He was raised therethis is also one understanding. But the understanding of Him as the Supreme Personality of Godhead is very difficult. It is very difficult.
So by the grace of Lord Caitanya, who is not different from Krsna... So Rupa Gosvami detected this fact. When Rupa Goswami first met Lord Caitanya at Prayag, he offered his obeisances in this way:
namo maha-vadanyaya
krsna-prema-pradaya te krsnaya krsna-caitanya- namine gaura-tvise namah [Cc. Madhya 19.53] He detected, "My dear Lord, You are Krsna Himself. Now You have taken the form in the disguise of Caitanya, Sri Krsna Caitanya. You are chanting Hare Krsna mantra. Your mission is to distribute Krsna-prema, Krsna-prema.'' Krsna..., Caitanya Mahaprabhu's mission was to distribute Krsna-prema. Prema pum-artho mahan. He distributed love of God, how to love God. That is the highest perfection. What is said here in the Bhagavad-gita, manusyanam saharesu kascit yatati siddhaye... Siddhaye. Siddhaye means how to obtain the perfection of life. The perfection of life is not dharma artha kama moksa [SB 4.8.41, Cc. Adi 1.90]. That is described in the beginning of Srimad-Bhagavatam, dharmah projjhita-atra kaitavah. Dharmah projjhita-kaitavah atra paramah nirmatsaranam. In the beginning, introduction of Srimad-Bhagavatam, the author, Vyasadeva, says that all kinds of kaitavah-kaitavah... Sridhara Swami has commented upon it, kalah nisandi rupa. Any religion which is seeking after some result of action.... Generally we perform religion, dharma-artha. We perform religion for getting some economic benefit, artha. And why artha is required? For kama, dharma artha kama. For, for satisfying our sense gratification we require money, and generally we perform religious rites, ritualistic ceremonies, yajna, dharma for getting some economic development. Dharma artha kama. Artha is required, money is required for fulfilling our sense gratification, and when we are baffled in gratifying our senses... Because here the whole struggle is going on. Everyone is trying to be the "Lord of all I survey". So there is baffle, there is confusion sometimes, and at that time they want moksa, relief for all these struggle for existence. But Srimad-Bhagavatam says that in the Srimad-Bhagavatam these four things are rejected: dharmah projjhita-kaitavo 'tra [SB 1.1.2]. Sridhara Swami has commented that moksa-vancapa yajnam nirastam. Then what it is for? It is for simply developing your lost consciousness, Krsna consciousness. That is Srimad-Bhagavatam. Because originally we are Krsna conscious. Because we are all sons of Krsna or part and parcel of Krsna; therefore Krsna and our relationship cannot be, I mean, eliminated. It is eternal. But that, at the present moment, we have forgot. That is our present position, maya. By the pressure of maya we have forgotten our relationship.
That is also explained in Caitanya-caritamrta:
When we forget, when you become other than Krsna conscious, at that time maya captures. That is maya. When they put off Krsna means mayaforgetting Krsna and trying to become here a big businessman or big minister, big this, that, or so many things. Ultimately I am trying to become God. When I fail with all these things, then I try to become God. So all these things are maya.
And Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu says that actual constitutional position of living entity is jivera svarupa haya nitya krsna dasa [Cc. Madhya 20.108-109], that living entity is eternally servant of Krsna, part and parcel. Just like this finger is the part and parcel of your body. What is the business of this finger? It is to serve this, serve this body always. I want, "Mr. Finger, please come here.'' "Oh, yes.'' He will do(?). And everything, part and parcel means to serve the whole. That is also explained in the Srimad-Bhagavatam, that the brahmana is the facial part of the universal form of the Lord, the ksatriya is the arms of the universal form, the vaisyas are the belly of the universal form of the Lord, and the sudras, they are the legs of the universal form of the Lord. So the leg..., the head may be very important part of the body, but you cannot neglect the legs. If you want to keep the body in fitness, then the brain must work nicely, the hand must work nicely, the belly must work nicely, and the legs also must. Catur varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah [Bg. 4.13]. So actually classless society means when these brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, they work for Krsna. That is classless. That is Krsna consciousness. The idea of classless society can be achieved when people become Krsna conscious. It is so important movement. Therefore I am speaking that the matter is placed before these Justices. Just try to understand. And for the benefits of the society, for the human society, for the human being, this Krsna consciousness movement must be very seriously taken up by you. That is my point. Krsna bhuliya jiva bhoga. Here, either you become this party or that party, the real purpose of forming party is to enjoy, and they bluff the people that "I shall give you this thing, that thing.'' But actually I want somehow or other the post and I, bhoga vancha... Either you become communist, socialist or capitalist or this "ist'' or that "ist,'' the real disease is bhoga-vancha, "How I shall enjoy this world.'' That is the real disease.
So you can change from one party to another, but the real disease is there. The real disease can be cured here by Krsna consciousness movement. I am eternal servant of Krsna. Everything belongs to Krsna. Krsna says,
bhoktaram yajna-tapasam
sarva-loka-mahesvaram suhrdam sarva-bhutanam jnatva mam santim rcchati [Bg. 5.29] Actually if the world want peace and prosperity, tranquillity, you must have to take this Krsna consciousness; otherwise there is no possibility. Krsna, the Supreme Lord, He is actually the proprietor. No land belongs to me or you. It is artificially. Just like I say to my American student, two hundred years ago the American land was there. Somebody was claiming, "America is ours.'' Now immigration from Europe, now they have their turn. They are thinking, "It is our country.'' But actually no land belongs to me or you. Everything belongs to Krsna, or God. Isavasyam idam sarvam yat kincid [Iso mantra 1]. Everything is God's property. We have got right to use the God's property because we are sons, but tena tyaktena bhunjitha: whatever He allows you, you can take that. Ma grdhah kasya svid dhanam. Don't think encroach on another's property. This is Krsna consciousness philosophy, that you should always understand that Krsna is the real bhokta, or enjoyer. Krsna is the proprietor of all the lokas. Krsna is the real friend of everyone. We are seeking friendship from so many persons to improve our material condition, but you do not know the real friend is within you, everyone. Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati [Bg. 18.61]. The real friend is within everyone's heartKrsnaand if you take shelter of Him... "Shelter of Him'' means simply hear about Him.
srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah
punya-sravana-kirtanah hrdy antah-stho hy abhadrani vidhunoti suhrt satam [SB 1.2.17] If you simply hear about Krsna, just like you are kindly hearing now, then gradually the dirty things within your heart will be cleansed.
That..., this thing has been offered by Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Caitanya Mahaprabhu has introduced this chanting of Hare Krsna mantra. That is not whimsically; that is according to sastra. In the Brhan-naradiya Purana it is said,
harer nama harer nama harer namaiva kevalam
kalau nasty eva nasty eva nasty eva gatir anyatha [Cc. Adi 17.21] If anyone wants God realization, then they..., he must take to this process of chanting, kirtaniyah sada. In the Srimad-Bhagavatam also, it is said by Sukadeva Goswami when he was teaching it, Maharaja Pariksit, about the symptoms of this kali-yuga. There are many symptom, just like you know how in the Twelfth Canto, Second, Third Chapter, the different types of faulty conditions of this yuga are mentioned there. For example, there is statement, svikara eva ca udvahe: "In this Kali-yuga, simply by agreement the marriage ceremony will be performed.'' That is actually happening, especially in European country. Then, lavanyam kesa-dharanam. In the Kali-yuga... Just see how five thousand years they predicted that are happening now. Lavanyam kesa-dharanam: "If one keeps long hair, then he thinks that 'I have become very beautiful.' '' So these things have been ensured, as practically these are being, European and American countries, the boys are keeping long hair. They have (indistinct) hair. Lavanyam kesa-dharanam. So there are so many symptoms, everything. Now we have to wait for the last symptom, when there will be no milk, no sugar and no grains. That day, we shall have it. The Kali-yuga is so serious. But Sri Sukadeva Goswami said to Pariksit Maharaja, kaler dosa-nidhe rajann asti hy eko mahan gunah: "My dear King, although I have described so many faulty things in this age, there is one great benefit.'' Kaler dosa-nidhe rajann asti hy eko mahan gunah. What is that? Kirtanad eva krsnasya mukta-sangah param vrajet [SB 12.3.51]. Simply by chanting "Krsna,'' kirtanad eva krsnasya. Especially it is mentioned, kirtanad eva krsnasya nama. Not that, as you say something, any nama you can do. No. Krsnasya. In another place also it is stated, sravanam kirtanam visnoh.
sravanam kirtanam visnoh
smaranam pada-sevanam arcanam vandanam dasyam sakhyam atma-nivedanam [SB 7.5.23] These are the nine different kinds of executing devotional service. So krsnasya, visnoh. The Rg Veda also says, om tad visnoh paramam padam sada pasyanti surayah. So the chanting means not that any name I select, I can chant. No. Chanting means kirtanad eva krsnasya. Sravanam kirtanam visnoh. Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare.
So this prescription has been given by Lord Caitanya. He has described, param vijayate sri-krsna-sankirtanam
ceto-darpana-marjanam bhava-maha-davagni-nirvapanam
sreyah-kairava-candrika-vitaranam vidya-vadhu-jivanam anandambudhi-vardhanam prati-padam purnamrtasvadanam (sarvatma-snapanam) param vijayate sri-krsna-sankirtanam [Cc. Antya 20.12] So my appeal is to you, and especially the two Justices, please try to understand, serious vicara, not that whimsically to accept by sentiment. No. Vicara. Vicara means sastra-vicara. We have to accept the Vedic authorities, what the Vedic injunction is there. The Vedic injunction is,
harer nama harer nama harer namaiva kevalam
kalau nasty eva nasty eva nasty eva gatir anyatha [Cc. Adi 17.21] So that is Vedic injunction. Just like from lawbook when you give evidence before the Justice, it is accepted law. That is in the law. Similarly, whenever there is reference in the Vedic literature, we have to accept. And practically we have seen people did not know the name of Krsna three, four years ago, they are mad after Krsna, the European, American. This is the practical fact. Therefore through the grace of Lord Caitanya, through the method given by Lord Caitanya, if we approach Krsna it becomes very easy. That was the..., detected by Rupa Goswami. Namo maha-vadanyaya krsna-prema-pradaya te [Cc. Madhya 19.53]. Krsna-prema. To attain Krsna, to understand Krsna is very difficult. Krsna Himself says so.
manusyanam sahasresu
kascid yatati siddhaye yatatam api siddhanam kascin vetti mam tattvatah [Bg. 7.3] So one does not understand what is Krsna, then what to speak of loving Krsna? If you don't understand somebody, how you will love him? But through the method given by Lord Caitanya, if we accept, it becomes so easy that even mlecchas and yavanas, who never heard of Krsna, they are dancing in ecstasy for krsna-prema. So if we actually want that siddhi, manusyanam sahasresu kascid yatati siddhaye [Bg. 7.3], that perfection of life, we must take to this Krsna consciousness movement. It teaches how to surrender unto Krsna. If we surrender to dog, forgetting Krsna, we are under the clutches of maya.
Now if we surrender, Krsna says,
sarva-dharman parityajya
mam ekam saranam vraja aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami ma sucah [Bg. 18.66] man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru [Bg. 18.65]. These are the statement. Mam eva ye prapadyante mayam etam taranti te [Bg. 7.14]. You have been captured by maya. You have forgotten Krsna. Just try to surrender unto Him. This is the teachings of Lord Caitanya. And they are accepting, these Western outsiders, because they have no hodgepodge in their mind, you see. They have cleansed. So I have said that krsnas tu bhagavan svayam [SB 1.3.28], that, and they are getting the result. And chant Krsna's name. Krsna and Krsna's name, nondifferent. (Sanskritindistinct) There is no difference. Krsna is the Absolute. Krsna, Krsna's name, Krsna's quality, Krsna's form, Krsna's entourage, they are all the same. Anything in relationship with Krsna is Krsna. That is absolute knowledge. So it has become easier for them because they are accepting as they are stated in the sastra. If we neglect the sastra-vidhi, yah sastra-vidhim utsrjya vartate kama-karatah, na siddhim sa va [Bg. 16.23]. So the defect at the present moment: that we are manufacturing our own concoctions. This should be stopped. You take as it is stated in the sastra. Krsna says that "I am the Supreme,'' mattah parataram nanyat kincid asti dhananjaya [Bg. 7.7]. We accept Krsna as the Supreme. Aham sarvasya prabhavah: [Bg. 10.8] "I am the origin of everything.'' The Vedanta-sutra says, janmady asya yatah [SB 1.1.1]. So why don't you accept? Why you comment in a different way? No. Why you comment like this? When Krsna says, man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji [Bg. 18.65], "Oh, it is not to Krsna, it is something within Krsna.'' Krsna is not divided in that way"something within and something without.'' He is absolute. We are divided within our soul, outside of this material body, but not Krsna. Therefore Krsna says one who thinks Him as ordinary human being, he is a mudhah. Avajananti mam mudha manusim tanum... [Bg. 9.11]. "Because I appeared as a human being, mudhas, those who are rascals, they think Me as ordinary human being.'' No. Param bhavam ajananto. He does not know what is immense power behind. That Krsna showed. Krsna, when He was present, when He was seven years old, He lifted the Govardhana Hill. We have to accept that, not that we make some comment upon it, because we think Krsna is ordinary boy, "How seven-years-old boy can lift?'' But we forget that He is Krsna. If Krsna can throw so many innumerable planets in the sky, floating just like cotton swab, is it very difficult for Krsna to lift a mountain?
But they do not accept Krsna as God. That is the difficulty. You do not accept Krsna as God, but you accept Krsna as ordinary human being; therefore you are mudhah. Avajananti mam mudha manusim tanum asritam [Bg. 9.11]. Na mam duskrtino mudhah. Again the same thing, mudhah. Na mam duskrtino mudhah prapadyante naradhamah. He has used very strong word to tell you, because He is the father, and the father can chastise the son using very strong. Similarly, He is the original father; therefore He is trying to chastise,
Because they have taken to the asuram bhavam... Asuram bhavam means, Sripada Ramanujacarya has explained that asuram bhavam means disobedience to the order of God. That is asurim. And devanam means obedience to the order of God. There are two kinds of men: daiva asura eva. Visnu-bhaktah smrto daiva asuras tad-viparyayah. Simply one who carries out the order of Krsna, he is devatah, and who does not carry out the orders of Krsna, he is asura. These things are explained in the Bhagavad-gita very nicely. So I am only requesting that Krsna consciousness movement, that originally we are all Krsna conscious, just like the water when it falls down on the ground it is distilled, clear water, but as soon as it touches the earth it becomes muddy. Similarly, because we are part and parcel of Krsna, we are all as pure as Krsna. Krsna is accepted in the Bhagavad-gita by the statement of Arjuna: param brahma param dhama pavitram paramam bhavan [Bg. 10.12]. Krsna is param pavitra, pure, the purest, apapa-viddha. So we, being part and parcel of Krsna, we are also param pavitra, but due to the material contact of these three modes of nature we have become polluted. The exact, in the same way, as we are part. So how we have fallen down, why you have come to this material world, how we can revive our again Krsna consciousness, these are the subject matter of this Krsna consciousness movement. We appeal to you: try to understand this movement. Enjoy with full heart, and do some welfare activity to the human society.
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