So the prakrta-guna. So long we are in this material world, infected by the material qualities, sattva-guna, rajo-guna, tamo-guna, that is prakrta life, not aprakrta. You have to go step by step. So our Krsna consciousness is adhoksaja, far beyond this prakrta knowledge, prakrta-guna. The highest position of prakrta or material life is the standard of brahminical qualities. But that is also prakrta. That is not aprakrta. That is also not the Brahman realization. Brahma janatiti brahmanah. That is also the highest stage of prakrta, glimpse of the light. But one has to become free from the prakrta envelopment. Prakrta-gunaih. Our present position is we are infected by the prakrta-guna. Some of them are infected by the sattva-guna; some of them are infected by the rajo-guna; some of them are infected by tamo-guna. So long one is infected by the tamo-guna and rajo-guna, his position is very abominable, rajas-tamas. One has to become at least on the sattva-guna, the brahminical qualification. Then spiritual knowledge can be realized, prakrta-guna.

So Kapiladeva proposes to His mother... Kapiladeva is Bhagavan. We have explained several times, bhaga means opulence and van means one who possesses. So what is that opulence? Aisvarya, richness. Aisvaryasya samagrasya. One who is possession, one who has in his possession all the wealth. All the wealth... We have several times explained this. Nobody can claim... Except Bhagavan, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, nobody can claim, "The all the wealth within this universe belongs to me." Nobody can say. But Krsna can say. Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita, bhoktaram yajna-tapasam sarva-loka-mahesvaram: [Bg. 5.29] "I am the proprietor of all the lokas, of all the planets." We become proprietor a few thousands of years, and there are so many difficulties. And He's the proprietor of the whole universe. That is also very little estimation, because Krsna says,

So you cannot claim to become Bhagavan so cheaply. Bhagavan is different thing. One who is devotee of Bhagavan, he knows something about Bhagavan. And the other rascals, they claim Bhagavansimply ludicrous. Only the rascals can accept another rascal as Bhagavan. It is not so easy.

So that is Vedic knowledge. You get the exact knowledge. Therefore Vedic knowledge is called apauruseya. It is not spoken by ordinary human being by speculation: "It may be," "Perhaps." No. It is not like that. That is Bhagavan. Whatever He'll say exact, that is Vedic knowledge. Therefore it is safer to take knowledge from Bhagavan, especially the knowledge of Bhagavan. Bhagavan is not so cheap thing. If you want to know Bhagavan... If you do not be so fool to accept another fool as Bhagavan, then you have to hear about Bhagavan about Bhagavan. That is the process. Therefore the Vedic instruction is, to get perfect knowledge, you have to approach a person who is guru. Tad-vijnanartham sa gurum evabhigacchet [MU 1.2.12]. And who's guru? Guru means representative of Bhagavan. Saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastrair uktas tatha bhavyata eva sadbhih **. Guru... Because the real guru, he's representative of Krsna, saksat-hari. Saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastraih. In all scriptures it is described that guru is as good as Bhagavan. Means he knows from the right source. Therefore he may be, not maybe exactly, but as good, saksad-dharitvena. Why? Kintu prabhor yah priya eva tasya. Guru is servant, servant God. The master God and the servant God. Krsna is the master God and guru is the servant God. Although he's respected as Krsna, still, kintu prabhor yah priya eva tasya; He does not claim that "I've become Krsna." No. He's very dear to Krsna. Kintu prabhor yah priya. Priya. Priya means dear. Why he's so dear? Because he preaches the master's message. Therefore he's pure. If he preaches his own message, manufactured, then he's not good; he's deceit. That now there are so many rascal, they say like that, that "Krsna was Bhagavan. That is past now. He's dead and gone. Now I am Krsna." There are many rascals they say like that. But these rascals are accepted by other rascals. God is never dead. God... How He can get...? Even the ordinary living being, he's not dead. Na jayate na mriyate. Even we, living entities, never die or never born. How the Supreme Lord can be dead or born? That is not the fact.

So therefore if we discuss Bhagavan, there are so many things to be understood about Bhagavan.

So bhagavan uvaca. So when Bhagavan is speakingatha te sampravaksyami tattvanamof the truth, laksanam, characteristic... Everyone has to understand anything by the characteristic. Just like in the chemical laboratory... If you send something just for chemical analysis just to see whether it is pure, so they have got in their authorized book, Pharmacopeia, the characteristics. The soda bicarb, its characteristic is like this; its taste is like this; it is formed like this, granules or powder or so many things. They analyze. And when the characteristics are accumulated, then they examine: "Yes. It is this." Similarly, you have to accept God from the characteristics, by analysis. Not that any rascal comes and says, "I'm Bhagavan." You must know, have to analyze Bhagavan. That is there in the sastra. This word Bhagavan is used not loosely. It has got many characteristics.

Just like Krsna said when he was present, He said, mattah parataram nanyat: [Bg. 7.7] "Nobody's superior than Me." He proved it. So long Krsna was on the planet, he proved it, that no one superior. Even from ordinary life as grhastha... Krsna was grhastha, householder. Now he married 16,108 wives. So who has got this potency to marry sixteen thousand? One wife... It is very difficult to maintain one wife. One lady in America, she had a grown-up son. So I asked her, "Why don't you get your son married?" "I have no objection if he can maintain wife here. I have no objection." Then I understood that it is very difficult to maintain wife here. And actually it is difficult to... Even from material point of view, Krsna, as far as we can calculate, we cannot conceive even at the present moment to maintain more than one wife or two wife. But He was maintaining sixteen thousand wives, 16,108.

But, because we have no conception of God, we take it, "This is all fictitious. God..." When God gives His reality, identification, and it is recorded in the sastra, not by any loafer class writer but like Vyasadeva, and we take it fictitious. Just see our position-Vyasadeva has bothered his brain to write something fictitious! Just see how low-grade persons we are! We don't believe writing of Vyasadeva. Or sometimes we say, "No, no, this was not written by Vyasadeva. It is interpretation." If it is interpretation, then why the acaryas have accepted? They're also fools-Ramanujacarya, Madhvacarya, Visnu Svami... They have made commentary on the Srimad-Bhagavatam, and they mention, they have accepted, "Yes. Krsna has sixteen thousand wives." So Vyasadeva has written and the acaryas have accepted. Then I have become such a great scholar that I say it is fictitious. And we have to believe these rascals.

So don't go to rascal. If you want real knowledge, take it from Bhagavan. bhagavan uvaca. Then your knowledge is perfect. That is our process. We, we have taken Bhagavad-gita as it is, and we are preaching. We don't preach anything else which Bhagavan does not say. Bhagavan says, man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam... [Bg. 18.65]. We are canvassing, "My dear sir, you just become a devotee of Krsna. You always think of Krsna." Krsna says, man-mana bhava mad-bhaktah. We say, "You just think of Krsna." The same thing. There is no change. We do not interpret any way, "This man-manah means this, and mad-bhaktah means that." No. We don't do that. We present as it is. Therefore if Krsna sees that "One is presenting My message as I have given," then He is pleased. Therefore, it is said, kintu prabhor yah priya eva tasya. He has become very dear because he does not, nonsensically, he does not nonsensically change the meaning, that "This meaning's that, this meaning's that." Why? When Krsna has said, that is everything perfect. Why should I change it? That is guru-priya. Suppose if you say something and if somebody takes it as it is and behaves like that, then you become pleased. And if you say to your son or to your servant something and he misunderstand and talks something else, then he becomes angry: "What this nonsense has understood?" Similarly, a guru does not change the word of Krsna. Therefore he's called Bhagavan, servant Bhagavan. Krsna is the master Bhagavan, master God, and the guru, who is serving Krsna sincerely, he's the servant God. Therefore sastra says, saksad-dharitvena samasta-sastrair uktas tatha bhavyata eva sadbhih **. In the morning also these boys, they sing Narottama dasa Thakura, ara na koriho mane asa. If you have got a pure, bona fide guru, then whatever he says, you do it. You don't think of anything else, ara na koriho mane asa. No more. That is all right.

So we have to receive knowledge from Bhagavan or from a person who is servant of Bhagavan, not that another imitation Bhagavan. Then you'll spoil your life. That will not help you. Bhagavan says, atha te sampravaksyami. Sam means samyak, in full, full knowledge, not partial. Atha te sampravaksyami. Pra means prakrsta-rupe. Vaksyami. Vaksyami means "I shall speak." Tattvanam. Tattvanam, tattva is one. Absolute Truth, it cannot be two; but there are different phases of understanding the Absolute Truth. Therefore here it is plural number, tattvanam. Tattva is one. That is explained in another place. Vadanti tat tattva-vidas tattvam yaj jnanam advayam [SB 1.2.11]. Although tattva is realized in different phases, three phases, brahmeti paramatmeti bhagavan iti sabdyate. Brahman, impersonal feature, brahmeti paramatma. First localized feature, isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati [Bg. 18.61]. That is Paramatma. Andantara-stha-paramanu-cayantara-stham.

Therefore even if you are Brahman status, you are not still aprakrta. You are aparoksa. Aparoksa status, not even adhoksaja. As I told you, there are different stages of knowledge, so the brahma-jnana is paroksa-jnana. And the spiritual planets, Vaikuntha knowledge, that is adhoksaja. And the knowledge about Krsna and His planet, Goloka Vrndavana, that is aprakrta. So we have to transcend from this prakrta status of life. It is a very, very high grade status, aprakrta. Aprakrta status.

So in this age it is very difficult to become exactly Vedic brahmana. That's very, very difficult because everyone has become sudra. Kalau sudra-sambhavah. In the Kali-yuga you cannot find out exactly a qualified brahmana. Very rare, very rare. Therefore Vedic brahmana is not possible. It is... Our movement, Krsna consciousness movement, is creating pancaratriki-vidhi. Pancaratriki-vidhi-brahmana means there is no evidence of, there is no certainty whether one is brahmana or son of brahmana because so many things are lacking. But, if he has got little taste of Krsna understanding, he should be encouraged. That is pancaratriki. Just like if there is little fire you fan it-fan it and it will come out a big blazing fire. So this Krsna consciousness movement is trying to do that, and it is easier because in the sastra it is said by Sukadeva Gosvami that there is one opportunity. "My dear King, Pariksit, I've described to you about the faulty nature of this Kali-yuga, but there is a very good opportunity for the people, fallen conditioned souls, of this Kali-yuga." "What is that?" Kaler dosa-nidhe rajann asti hy eko mahan gunah: "The, in the Kali-yuga, it is like the ocean of fault. But still there is one very good opportunity." "What is that?" Kirtanad eva krsnasya mukta-sangah param vrajet: [SB 12.3.51] "You chant Hare Krsna and become liberated and go to back to home, back to Godhead."

Thank you very much. (end)