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Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.42

Los Angeles, July 23, 1975
Nitai: "The sun, fire, sky, sir, demigods, moon, evening, day, night, directions, water, land and the Supersoul Himself all witness the activities of the living entity."
Prabhupada:
suryo 'gnih kham marud devah
somah sandhyahani disah
kam kuh svayam dharma iti
hy ete daihyasya saksinah
[SB 6.1.42]
Sometimes foolish people challenge that "Who has seen? Who has seen?" Sometimes they argue, Christian philosophers, that "If I am suffering the resultant action of my past life, then where is the witness that I have done something wrong in my past life? Where is the witness?" So to them this is the answer, that God has created so many witnesses. The first witness is surya, the sun. How you can go away from the sunlight? Anywhere you go... We are in this room. Because it is daytime, the sunlight is there. Suryah agnih. Agnih means fire. We have to touch with fire in so many ways. The factories are working fire, the electric powerhouse, the electricity, the oven, the kitchen, fire. So agnih..., suryah agnih kham akasa, sky. Where you can escape sky? Within the room there is sky; outside, the sky; up, the sky; down, the sky. Everywhere is sky. Suryah agnih kham marud, air. Where is no air? Every place there is air. Devah. Devah means the Supreme Lord. What is that devah?
Nitai: demigods.
Prabhupada: Demigods or God, God is also situated in everyone's heart. Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati [Bg. 18.61]. Devah. And sandhya. In the morning there is sun, in the evening there is moon, and sandhya ahani. Ahani means day. And disah, the direction: east, west, north, south, then corner, then up and down. These are called disah. Kam, then water. And kuh means the land. Kam kuh svayam dharma. And the Dharmaraja, Yamaraja, he is present. Iti, "thus," hi, "indeed," ete, "all these," daihyasya. Daihyasya means one who has accepted this body, material body. A living entity who has accepted this material body he has to work. This is called field of work. In the Bhagavad-gita it is called What is called?
Devotees: Ksetra.
Prabhupada: Ksetra, yes. Ksetra-ksetrajna. I am ksetrajna. I am the soul. I know this is my body. I never say "I, the body." "My body." Never say "I body." Nobody says. So daihyasya. Any sane man, he knows that "I am not this body. It is my body." I never say, "I finger." "My finger." I never say, "I head." "My head." So this body is mine.
So anyone who has accepted this body, daihyasya, and whatever he is doing, it is all being witnessed by so many witnesses. How can you avoid? How you can do something very secretly? That is not possible. Everything is being noted. And so punishment or reward, you will have to accept because you are not independent. We foolishly say independent. "We don't care for anybody. There is no God." But there is death. That you have to believe. So that death is God. Krsna says, aham mrtyuh sarva-haras ca. One who does not see God during lifetime, so he will see God at the time of death. So there is no question of not seeing God. Here is God, Krsna. He is standing. He is so merciful. He has come to this temple so that we can take the advantage of seeing Him, But we are seeing Him still idol or something, stone or wood. He does not know that because we cannot see now at the present moment without being wood or stone or something material, so Krsna has very kindly come to me so that I can see Him in a form which I can see. That is His mercy. We have repeatedly said this.
Therefore we should never think, arcye visnu sila-dhih, the worshipable Deity, Krsna, Visnu, as made of stone. In the higher sense, stone is also Krsna, because Krsna's energy. Just like if you go to the street, you may see the sun in the sky, but when you are within the room, you may not see the sun in the sky directly. But because it is daytime, therefore we can understand there is sun on the sky. Similarly, we do not require to see God directly. We can see Him through His energy. Just like in a telephone hanger, as soon as somebody speaks, immediately see him. How it is possible? By his word, immediately see him. You are in a closed room, somebody knocking, and you say, "Who is it?" He says, "I am." So immediately by his voice, you can see him. So why do you want to see directly? We can see anything by his energy. Just like if you feel heat here, then immediately you becomes alert, "Oh, there must be some fire." If there is some smoke, immediately you can understand that there is fire. So by intelligence and by the energy of God, you can see God. That is intelligence. So Krsna says,
bhumir apo 'nalo vayuh
kham mano buddhir eva ca
ahankara iti me
bhinna prakrtih astadha
[Bg. 7.4]
"It is My energy." So stone is also energy of Krsna, but you have not eyes to see Krsna in the stone. That is your defect. Krsna says that "This is My energy." Just like you can see, by energy, you can see the energetic, similarly, by seeing Krsna's energy, you can see Krsna.
Therefore those who are advanced devotee, for them, there is nothing material; everything is Krsna. Sthavara-jangama dekhe na dekhe tara murti [Cc. Madhya 8.274]. Actually, a Vaisnava is factually monist because he does not see anything except Krsna. Anything he sees, he will think, "This is Krsna's energy." So why it is not Krsna? So Krsna also says in the Bhagavad-gita, maya tatam idam sarvam: [Bg. 9.4] "I am expanded everywhere." Avyakta-murtina. Avyakta means not manifest. He is in the fire. He is in the water. He is in the land. He is in the skyeverywhere. He is in the mind. He is in intelligence. He is soul. He's part and So Krsna is everywhere; simply you have to make your eyes how to see Him. That is required. That is prema. Premanjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena santah sadaiva hrdayesu vilokayanti [Bs. 5.38]. Those who are santah, saintly person, they always see Krsna. Why? Premanjana-cchurita, because he is in love with Krsna. Just like you have your beloved child. Although he is out of sight, you can see him in his shoe, in his cloth, in his toy: "Oh, it is my child." That requires prema. Similarly, if you have knowledge, theoretical knowledge even, that everything is Krsna's energy and if you have love for Krsna, with reference to the context, whatever you see, you see Krsna. That is Krsna consciousness. Perfection of Krsna consciousness. You cannot see anywhere where there is no Krsna. This is for the devotee. For the ordinary person these are the description, that the surya, the sun is also Krsna, the fire is also Krsna, the sky is also Krsna, the air is also Krsna, the moon is also Krsna, the evening is Krsna, daytime is Krsna. Then how you can avoid Krsna? Krsna says that "I am..." Mattah smrtir jnanam apohanam ca [Bg. 15.15]. Krsna is everywhere. You cannot avoid Krsna. Simply on account of your foolishness, maya is covering your eyes to see Krsna. So mam eva ye prapadyante mayam etam taranti te [Bg. 7.14]. If you surrender to Krsna, then maya's curtain will be taken away and you will see Krsna, Krsna, Krsna, Hare Krsna. That's all. This is required. Then you become perfect as soon as you learn how to see Krsna everywhere. This is the art, transcendental art, spiritual art, how to see Krsna. Then you become perfect. That is wanted.
So the devotee of Krsna, they know that "Everywhere is Krsna, and I cannot do anything, concealing myself from the eyes of Krsna. Therefore I should not do anything which is sinful." This is the first step of advancing in Krsna consciousness. We are thinking that "Although we are doing this sinful activity, Krsna cannot see." No, Krsna will see. You should always know that. Krsna will see. And Krsna says that unless one is free from all sinful activities, he cannot be engaged in full devotional service of Krsna consciousness.
So we should wilfully try to become... He is seeing, but there are two kinds of seeing. When you act sinfully, that is also being seen by Krsna, and when you are serving Him, that is also being seen by Krsna. So we have to be seen by Him that we are actually acting for Him as His servant. Then we will be recognized. You cannot conceal Him. He is seeing. He can see everything. But when you act sinfully, then the maya's curtain prohibits you not to see Krsna. But when you actually surrender to Him, then you can see Krsna is present. He is seeing everything. That is wanted. My Guru Maharaja used to say that "Don't try to see Krsna. Try to become being seen by Krsna." That is wanted. You cannot see Krsna so long... Atah sri-krsna-namadi na bhaved grahyam indriyaih [Cc. Madhya 17.136]. So long we have got these material eyes, material senses, we cannot hear... Others may chant Hare Krsna, he is enjoying, and others, they are thinking disturbing, the same chanting. So because one has got this material ear, he is thinking it is disturbing, and one who has got spiritual ear, then he is enjoying, "Oh, here is Hare Krsna chant." This is the difference.
So we have to purify our senses. Then we shall see Krsna. We shall know that Krsna is seeing us, our activities, our sinful activities, and we have to suffer for this. We have to accept a similar body. Just Krsna says,
So everybody of us, we are getting a new type of body. This is a yantra. This is a machine given by Krsna through the agency of material nature. This body is made of material nature. I am the owner of the body or driver of the body, and Krsna is the giver of the body. We should always remember. Krsna is sitting within us, and He knows what kind of body I am desiring. So He is immediately ordering material nature that "You give him such and such body." And she is ready. She can manufacture millions of types of body in a second, material nature. That you have seen, nature, how all of a sudden all the trees become green. Yesterday or day before yesterday, there was no leaf. And the third day, in the morning you see all the trees are full with leaves. How it is done? So nature is so powerful. Immediately. So therefore... Similarly, our bodies, you body, my body, millions and trillions and numberless body, immediately created. Prakrteh kriyamanani gunaih karmani... [Bg. 3.27]. We have to study like that, how prakrti is working. The prakrti is not under your control. That prakrti is working under the supervision of Krsna. Mayadhayksena prakrtih suyate sa-caracaram. As soon as Krsna says, "Now make all the trees leafless," immediately leafless. He says, "Make the all the trees with all leafs," immediately with leaves. That is God; that is prakrti. Try to understand like that. Why you compare your silly intelligence with God's intelligence? "I cannot do it; therefore God cannot do it. I cannot see God; therefore God cannot see me." This rascaldom is going on. Because I am an insignificant creature, ksudrad api-ksudra, ksdra means very, very insignificantI am comparing myself with the intelligence of God. This is my fault(?).
So we have to give up this nonsense idea as knowledge. We have to understand God as it is said in the sastras. Practically, you have to judge. Then we shall understand God, His intelligence, how He is working. Because in the previous verse it is said,
Everything is being supplied by the nature. By the order of Krsna, according to the modes of nature, we are contaminating guna-nama. As we are infected with a certain type of guna, immediately our body, activities, name... We have contacted, contaminated, with tamo-guna... There are so many animals in the tamo-gunatrees, plants. Tamo-guna: darkness, no knowledge. So similarly sattva-guna. If you associate with sattva-guna, then you get the body of a brahmana, intelligent man, saintly man. Everything is ready. It requires only our association. That's all. Therefore the advice is that "You all become the topmost qualified man." That is the propaganda of Krsna consciousness. "Become first-class topmost men. Don't remain..." Tamasi ma: "Don't remain in darkness." This is our only request. Otherwise... But why we are making this propaganda? Because Krsna wants. We are all servant of Krsna; therefore our only aim is to serve Krsna. And Krsna wants that "Save these rascals from rajo-guna, tamo-guna. Bring them transcendent to sattva-guna, and they will be happy." This is Krsna's desire. Nistraigunyo bhavarjuna: "Arjuna, you become above the three gunas." That is the Krsna's desire. "Why you are bothering with these gunas? 'This is my body. This is my family. This is this. This is this. This is this.' You are arguing so much." So therefore Krsna said, nistraigunyo bhavarjuna: "These are on the material platform. Come to the spiritual platform." Ultimately he said that "You are My very dear friend. Therefore I am disclosing to you the most confidential knowledge." Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam [Bg. 18.66]. This is the whole instruction.
So all these sastras, all these Vedas, all this knowledge, they are simply leading to Krsna consciousness. Vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyam [Bg. 15.15]. But in the Kali-yuga it is very difficult to go step by step. People are so fallen, so much engrossed in rajo-guna and tamo-guna. Therefore, by the mercy of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, He has empowered the holy name of God, that simply by chanting Hare Krsna mantra you can make equal progress than in other ages. Kalau tad dhari-kirtanat.
This is the injunction of the sastra, that in the Satya-yuga people used to live for 100,000's of years. At that time you could meditate upon for sixty thousand years. Still, forty thousand years you can live perfectly. But it is not possible now. Therefore the supreme perfection attained in the Satya-yuga by meditation was possible in the next yuga, Treta-yuga, by performing sacrifices. Tretayam yajato makhaih. Dvapare paricaryayam. In the next age, by worshiping Deity, paricaryayam. Kalau tad dhari-kirtanat: the same result you will get. Because Kali-yuga, it is very difficult to be fixed up in meditation or to perform very costly yajnas or to perform worship of the Deity. That is also difficult. I am very much pleased that you are worshiping Deity very nicely, gorgeously. But in India you will find there are so many temples. Of course, it requires the energy. Otherwise here also, there are so many churches. Now they are being closed. This church, this was a church. Now it was closed. There was no customer. And now it is filled up. Why? The same church, the same men, the same spot. It is due to real knowledge. So if you go on simply opening centers, if there is no knowledge then it will again become a closed church someday. So don't do that. Before opening a center you must have perfect worshiper, perfect devotees. Not perfect; at least those who are willing to become. Then open. Otherwise, simply chant. Kalau tad dhari-kirtanat. That will never be impaired. Anywhere you chant, you will be successful, anywhere. Sit down. If you chant without any offense, then kalau tad dhari-kirtanat. But if possible, open nice centers, worship nicely. That will be very good. But if you are unable to do anything, either the meditation or offering sacrifices, worshiping the Deity, in this age, simply if you sincerely chant without any offense, then your life is sure to be successful.
Thank you very much. (end)

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