The answer is here, that... We may not compare our inefficiency with the arrangement of the Supreme Lord. Now, God has kept so many witnesses. How you can escape? Here is a name, list of witness. Surya first of allthe sun. So how you can escape Surya's light? You cannot escape. So here is one witness. Then Agni, fire. Then Kham, the sky. Where there is no sky? Here we are sitting; there is sky. And there is light also. Then Marut, air. Deva. Who is deva? Demigods, yes. Then Soma. At night there is moon. Sandhya, evening or noon. Noon is also sandhya. Sandhya means junction. When the night is going awaythe day is coming early in the morningthat is also sandhya. When midday, the forenoon is passingthe afternoon is beginningthat is also sandhya. Tri-sandhya. Tri-sandhya. We have to chant Gayatri mantra tri-sandhya, early in the morning, in the midday and in the evening. That is tri-sandhya. Yasya prasadad bhagavat-prasadah yasyaprasadad na gatih kuto 'pi **. What is next line?

So these questions were never raised. We are now raising these questions. And they were passing on. No. This is not the process. The process is sastra-caksusat, sabda-pramanam. That is the Vedic injunction, sabda-pramanam. Just like you are sleeping, and somebody is coming to kill you with knife. So how you can take precaution? You are sleeping. But some of your friend or relative: "Get up! Get up! Get up! There is enemy! There is enemy!" Immediately you wake up. That means you see with the ear, not with the eyes. The real seeing is through the eyes, er, through the ears. Suppose one does not know who is your..., who is his father. So how he can see the father? Through the ear, not with the eyes. That is not possible. The mother says, "My dear child, here is your father," and you see through the eyes: "Here is my father." So therefore real eyesthe ear, not these eyes. Real eyes. That is real seeing. Therefore sastra says, Vedic knowledge, that sastra-caksusat, pasyati jnana-caksusat: "One can see by the eyes of knowledge," not by these blunt eyes. This is useless. They cannot see. And how you can see through the sabda? Sastra means sabda. Through the ear... My Guru Maharaja used to say, "Don't try to see a saintly person by your eyes. You see a saintly person by the ear." Because if you hear from the saintly person and if he is speaking from the experience which he has heard from the, another saintly personthis is called guru-paramparathen the knowledge is perfect. Yesterday we ... The Yamadutas said that iti susruma. Never said, "I have seen it." Vedo narayanah saksat svayambhur iti susruma: "We have heard it." Vedo narayanah saksa... He never says, "I have seen it." No. Iti susruma. So this is experience, real experience, real knowledge. Vedo narayanah saksat. Veda is directly Narayana. So Narayana... You can see Narayana. You can hear about Narayana. Sravanam kirtanam visnoh [SB 7.5.23]. Visnu is Narayana. This is the beginning of understanding Narayana, sravanam kirtanam. Never says, "By seeing, by touching, by licking up." No. You cannot see. That is not experience. Real experience is iti susruma. So if we take our knowledge that there is no witness what we did in our previous life, that is nonsense. Here are the so many witnesses. Iti susruma. Hear. You cannot say there is no witness. You hear from the Vedic literature how many witnesses are present there for all your activities and how they are becoming recorded minutely, and everything will be judged. Therefore the Yamaraja is there.

So this is our position, that prakrteh kriyamanani gunaih karmani sarvasah [Bg. 3.27], ahankara-vimudhatma. Anyone who is proud of his so-called knowledge, so-called experiencesimply "I believe," "I think," "It may be," "Suppose"what is this knowledge? They're all nonsense. When you get knowledge susruma, from the authority, that is knowledge. Otherwise all useless. All useless. Because your senses are imperfect. You cannot see properly. You cannot hear properly. You cannot touch properly. You cannot smell properly. These are your instruments for getting experience. You cannot go. How you can say in other planets there is no life? You cannot go. According to the scientists' calculations, they say that to go to the topmost planet it will take forty... Eh? Forty thousands of years. Who is going to travel forty thousand years? But we are seeing. The planets are there. Go there and see. You cannot estimate of one universe, which you are practically seeing. And in the sastra we hear that there are millions of universes.

So everything is, direction is there. Tad-vijnanartham. If you want to know that science, then Tad-vijnanartham sa gurum eva: [MU 1.2.12] "must." Gacchet. This verb is used when there is the sense "must." If somebody says, "All right, I shall learn even without going to any guru," no, that is not possible. Therefore this verb is used, gacchet: "You must if you want to learn." Otherwise you remain in darkness. This is Vedic injunction. Susruma? You must hear from the right source; then you will get perfect knowledge. So therefore, whether there is witness or not witness, we cannot understand from a so-called professor. There is witness, sastra says. And how can you deny it? If surya... first word is surya. The surya is the eyes of God, one eye. Another eye is the moon. And it is described in the sastra,

Therefore we must be very cautious and, I mean to say, with sense we must act, and if we act according to the direction of the sastra, then our position is safe. Otherwise, we are risking life. Risking life means this human life, human life. The dog has got ear; we have got also ear. But a dog cannot understand sastra; that is not possible. Or the elephant has got ear, very big ear. (laughter) Does it mean that he can hear more? No. This is rascaldom. One must be quite able to hear to understand sastra. Therefore sastra is meant for the human society. In the Caitanya-caritamrta you will find, the Sanatana Gosvami's teachings, you will find, anadi bahirmukha jiva krsna bhuli gela, ataeva krsna veda purana karila. Why these Vedas and Puranas are there? Just to remind us. The veda purana karila. Veda, the four Vedas and other literatures abiding by the Vedas... Purana means supplementary Vedas. There are many historical incidences. They say "mythology." No, it is not mythology. It is from selected historical incidences put together, but the same Vedic instruction for common man. In the Vedas the mantras are there. Common man cannot understand. Janmady asya yatah [SB 1.1.1], athato brahma jijnasa. This Veda mantra goes on. But ordinary persons, they cannot understand. Therefore the same Vedas explained with reference to the historical incidences, that is called Purana. Purana means "who is complete." Purana, purayati iti purana. So, the Mayavadi philosopher, they say the Puranas are stories. No. The Bhagavata is Purana. It is full of stories. But what kind of stories? All Vedic instruction. Just like Ajamila. Ajamila began, itihasa. The Bhagavata Purana is speaking itihasa, in the beginning. It is said. So Sukadeva Gosvami is giving incidences of itihasa, history, example from the history. So this is actual fact.

So in order to convince Pariksit Maharaja how chanting of Hare Krsna mantra is powerful, he is giving a lesson from the history, how Ajamila was delivered simply by chanting "Narayana." This is the incidence from the history. And it is history. The story begins, kanyakubje. Kanyakubja is still there in India. Perhaps you have heard the name of Kanpur. So that is within the Kanyakubja area. Kanyakubje dvijah: "There was a brahmana in Kanyakubja." Historical name is all... So it is history. It is not story, mythology. No story. It is historical fact. Anything which is described in the sastra... The Bhagavata is Maha-Purana. Don't be misled, "These are mythology." No, these are historical facts. And we have to learn the Vedic knowledge by the description selected from the history so that we can easily understand. This is the purpose.

So in our, this human form of life we should be very careful, and what is ordered that "You should do like this..." Just like if you go to a medical man, so if you are diseased, a medical man, physician, will give you a prescription that "You take this medicine, and you do not take this kind of food. You can take this kind of food." Ahara-pathya. So if you want to cure your material disease, then two things are required: the medicine and the food. It is called pathya. The proper food and proper medicine. The proper medicine is chanting Hare Krsna, and the proper food is Krsna prasada.

Thank you very much. (end)