701216SB.SUR
Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.32

Surat, December 16, 1970
Prabhupada:
ke yuyam pratiseddharo
dharma-rajasya sasanam
ucur nisedhitas tams te
vaisvasvata-purah sarah
[SB 6.1.32]
So the constables of Yamaraja inquired from the Vaikunthaduta, the messengers of Vaikuntha, that yuyam pratiseddharah: "Why you are interrupting in our business?" Pratiseddharo. Pratiseddharah. Pratiseddharah means the opposing elements. "Why you are opposing? We are Yamaduta. It is our duty to take away a sinful man, sinful soul, like Ajamila, who has simply acting misdeeds throughout his whole life. Now, at the end of his life, we are authorized to take him to the Yamaraja. Why you are preventing us? Why you are interrupting in our business?"
So because the Visnudutas were very beautiful, four-handed, exactly resembling Lord Visnu... As I have explained, in the Vaikunthaloka all the inhabitants, their feature of the body are exactly like Lord Visnu, four-handed, with conchshell, lotus flower, club, and disc. So they never saw Visnuduta before, these Yamadutas, because they go in an atmosphere where sinful activities are executed. But this time they were astonished, that "How these beautiful personalities are here?" Kim deva upadeva va yuyam kim siddha-sattamah. So, "Will you kindly let us know wherefrom you are coming? Are you coming from the Siddhaloka planet or heavenly planet?" Because in the material world nobody knows that there is a spiritual sky beyond this material sky... As it is stated in the Bhagavad-gita, paras tasmad tu bhava anyah: "There is another nature." This is one nature, material nature, where millions and trillions of universes are clustered together in the corner of the spiritual sky. This is only one universe, within which there are innumerable planets. But there are millions and trillions of universes also. That is material creation. Material creation means one-fourth part of the whole creation. Three-fourths part is spiritual creation. Ekamsena sthito jagat [Bg. 10.42]. Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita, "This whole material world is existing in one fourth of My energy." kim deva upadeva va bhrsam kim siddha-sattamah.
Sarve padma-palasaksah. They were very much satisfied by seeing the Visnudutas. Just like in your country they are very much satisfied by seeing your face. They have named you "bright-faced." Why? You are naturally very beautiful, but they understand, your countrymen, that you have become more beautiful by Krsna consciousness. That's a fact. (aside): You can sit down there. This is disturbing. So Krsna consciousness is so nice that naturally it will make you beautiful, not black-faced, not morosebeautiful face. That is the sign of spiritual advancement. By the face you'll understand that "Here is a man who is spiritually advanced." Pratyaksam avagamam dharmyam. This process of spiritual consciousness can be directly perceived. It is not theoretical: "Oh, I am a very great devotee." No. Simply theoretical understanding, "I am a great devotee..." From the very face it will be understood. Face is the index of mind, how you are thinking. If you are thinking of Krsna always, then your face will be beautiful. Therefore it is called pratyaksam avagamam dharmyam, direct perception. There is no theoretical. It is practical. Pratyaksyam avagamam dharmyam su-sukham.
Then to become such spiritually advanced, is it very difficult task? No. Su-sukham: very easy and very happy. How it is happy? Happy because this spiritual consciousness is developed by chanting Hare Krsna mantra. That is very pleasing. With music, with musical instrument we chant Hare Krsna mantra. There is no trouble. Even a child can take part, experience. A child also claps; he also dances. So what can be easier method than this? Any other method you take, you have to exercise, you have to tax your brain, press your nose, or so many other things. But here automatically you chant before aratrika and you become spiritually enlightened. Even the child becomes. Therefore it is susukham, very happy to execute. Susukham kartum avyayam [Bg. 9.2]. And whatever you do, little, that becomes a permanent asset, avyayam. It is never to be vanished. Even one percent of devotional service you execute, it will help you again to begin from that point.
So here is a description of the Vaikuntha-purusa. Sarve padma-palasaksah: "Your eyes are so beautiful, just like petals of the lotus flower." And pita-kauseya-vasasah. Saffron and yellow. These two kinds of colors of garments because... Those who are Mayavadis, impersonalists, they cannot understand that there is another spiritual world and there are spiritual planets, and their inhabitants, their bodily features are like this, their dress are like... Everything is there. But unfortunate persons, they cannot understand. They think everything is here. They are that kupa-manduka, frog philosophy, that the frog in the well, he cannot understand beyond that well. Similarly, these materialistic persons, frog, they cannot understand that there is a Pacific Ocean, or spiritual world. They are satisfied with this well, three-cubic-feet well. That's all. And simply imagining, "God may be like this, may be like this, may be like this, and therefore I am God." So God is so easy that "Everyone is God. God is loitering in the street as daridra. God as Narayana has become that poor, and I am so rich that I can provide Narayana also." This is going on.
So, na mam duskrtino mudhah prapadyante naradhamah [Bg. 7.15]. Persons who are very much influenced by this materialistic way of thought, asuri-bhavam asritah, such persons are always engaged in misdeeds, duskrtina. Misdeeds. Na mam duskrtino mudhah. Why they are engaged in misdeeds? Because mudha. They do not know what is the responsibility of this human form of life. They are simply wasting their life in animal propensities, mudha. Mudha is the symbol of an ass. He does not know. The ass does not know why he is working so hard for the washerman. He carries a very heavy load, but he does not know "Why I am carrying so much heavy load?" That is the symbol of an ass. If you work so hard, you must know what benefit you are deriving out of it. But the ass does not know. Similarly, the karmis, they are very busy, very busy accumulating wealth. But he does not know what for he is doing so, why he is so laboring hard. Rsabhadeva says that this life, human form of life, is not meant for so much hard working. Nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke kastan kaman arhate vid-bhujam ye [SB 5.5.1]. Why people are taught to work so hard? Simply for morsel of bread and little sense gratification. So Rsabhadeva says that that is done by the hogs and dogs. Daily they are whole day and night working: "Where is some food? Where is some stool?" But that human form of life is meant for that purpose, working hard, so hard like hogs and dogs simply for fulfilling the belly and having sex life? No. So they should be taught for tapasya. Nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke kastan kaman arhate vid-bhujam ye tapo divyam putraka yena suddhyet [SB 5.5.1]. Rsabhadeva was advising, instructing His sons, "My dear boys, this life is meant for tapo-divyam, for spiritual realization, austerity. That should be taught."
So the Krsna consciousness movement is teaching that tapah. Tapah means you have to accept voluntarily some difficulties. Actually it is not difficulty because... Just like somebody smoking, and we are advising, "Don't smoke." The smoker may feel some inconvenience. But if he voluntarily suffers that inconvenience, that is called tapasya. Actually he will not die, but because he is practiced to so many nonsense habits, he feels difficulty to give it up. From the birth he is not a drunkard, from birth he is not a smoker, but by bad association, so-called civilized association, he becomes a drunkard, he becomes a smoker, he becomes a woman hunter, he becomes a gamblersinful life. So to advance in spiritual life one has to give up all these sinful activities; otherwise it is not possible. Some rascal says that "You can do whatever you like. It has nothing to do with your religiousness." This is nonsense. Religious life means to approach God, and God is pure. As it is stated in the Bhagavad-gita, param brahma param dhama pavitram paramam bhavan [Bg. 10.12]. Pavitra. Krsna is addressed by Arjuna, pavitram. In the Upanisad it is said, Isopanisad, apapa-viddham. God cannot be infected by sinful activities. That is God's... Just like we are infected by sinful activities, God is not like that... There is Absolute. So He is always pure. So we have to make ourselves purified before we can approach the Supreme Personality of Godhead. So these are sinful activities: illicit sex life and meat-eating, unnecessarily killing the animals. Why should you kill animals? If God has given you so many nice foodstuffsvarieties of fruit, varieties of grain, sufficient milkwhy should you take to this obnoxious foodstuff? But it is ill luck, unfortunate. By ill association you have learned all this nonsense. So therefore one has to give up these nonsense habits. That is called tapasya. Tapo divyam [SB 5.5.1].
Why tapasya? Divyam: for spiritual realization. Why it is necessary? Tapo divyam yena suddhyet sattva. Your existence will be purified because... Just like in diseased condition we cannot relish very palatable foodstuff. A man, jaundice, suffering from jaundice, if you give him something just like candy, sugar candy, he'll taste it as bitter because he is suffering from jaundice. But sugar candy is not bitter. Similarly, in our diseased condition, this material body, actually you cannot taste real happiness. That is not possible. Therefore we have to cure the disease. Bhagavad-gita therefore says curing the disease means janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi-dosa..., klesa-dosanudarsanam [Bg. 13.9]. Those who are actually advancing in spiritual life, they should always keep in front that "We may advance in so many things, but these four thingsbirth, death, old age, and diseasecannot be solved by our so-called material advancement of science." And Bhagavad-gita points out that you should always keep these four principles of misery in front. Then you'll be able to advance in spiritual path. And if you become callous"Oh, death takes place. What is that?" Why you should die? You are not subjected to death. Na hanyate hanyamane sarire [Bg. 2.20]. Even after the destruction of this body you do not die. "Then why should I accept this material body?" This is intelligence. This is science. "I do not want to be old. Why I become old?" Nityah sasvato 'yam. Because the living entity is eternal, so why he should become old? Krsna never becomes old. Krsna's picture you have never seen old. Similarly, you also cannot become old.
So these questions do not arise. They are simply, I mean to say, engrossed with animal propensitieseating, sleeping, mating, and defendingas if these are the problems. These are no problems. We have created these problems. Eating is no problem. The animals, they do not endeavor for doing some work for eating. Eating is already there. The birds, beasts are eating. Similarly, human body, eating is there. For example, we are, these forty heads, we are traveling. So eating is already there. Before our coming, our Padubhai(?) has arranged for our eating. So why should we think for eating? So, but actually that is the fact. There is no problem of eating. They have created this problem. God has given enough food. In America they throw away foodstuff in the ocean. You see. This is nonsense. Because they have no Krsna consciousness, they do not know that these food grains belong to Krsna. He has sent. So instead of throwing in the ocean, it should be dispatched to the countries where there is scarcity. There cannot be any scarcity. Purnam idam [Isopanisad, Invocation]. Everything created by God is sufficiently purnam. Purnat purnam. It is... There is arrangement of raining; there is arrangement of producing. We simply, so-called rascals, so-called politicians, they have created all this trouble for their political ambition. Just like our politicians created the Pakistan and Hindustan. So all the foodstuff is there in Pakistan. Rice is in East Bengal and wheat is in East Pakistan. So this Hindustan is in shortage, in short of wheat and rice. So this is the creation of the politicians. By God's arrangement everything is complete. Therefore you have to change the whole consciousness of the people if you want to be happy. That is Krsna consciousness.
Thank you very much. Hare Krsna. [break]
Devotee (1): You were talking about Ajamila, and I would like to know what is the difference between the planetary systems that the earth here, or the universe. Is the planetary system the universe, or is there something beyond the planetary system which it is situated in? I do not not understand the difference between planetary system and the universe.
Prabhupada: Universe is a covering just like a football, and within that, there are planetary system. And these football-like universes, they are floating in the Viraja water, where Maha-Visnu is lying. So each universe is covered.
Revatinandana: Like a coconut?
Prabhupada: Eh? Yes.
Revatinandana: Like a coconut half filled with water?
Prabhupada: Yes. Yasya prabha prabhavato jagad-anda koti [Bs. 5.40]. Jagad-anda. Jagad-anda means this universe, anda, round sphere(?). Koti. Koti means innumerable. Yasya prabha prabhavato jagad-anda-koti-kotisv asesa-vasudhadi-vibhuti-bhinnam [Bs. 5.40]. And in each of them there are innumerable planets, and each planet, the atmosphere is different from one another. Vibhuti-bhinnam. Just like sun planet. It is a different thing from this planet, but... And the moon planet is a different thing from this planet. And the scientists, they are thinking that the sun planet being fiery, there cannot be any living entity. No. There are. There are living entities. Their bodies are also fiery. Fire is also one of the elements. Here we have body with material elements. Major portion is earth, and there major portion is fire. So somewhere major portion is water. So therefore there are vibhuti-bhinnam, different atmosphere. That is God's creation.
Govinda's bodily rays is brahmajyoti. The impersonalists, by their ascending process they realize brahmajyoti and they think, "This is end." No. You have to go further, further. Brahmano 'ham pratistha, Krsna says, "I am the," what is called, "reservoir, or the background of this brahmajyoti." Background. Because Krsna is there, therefore brahmajyoti is there. You'll find always in Krsna's picture there is a auri. It is called auri?
Hamsaduta: Aura.
Prabhupada: Aura.
Revatinandana: When Krsna appeared... I think the translation in Bhagavad-gita begins that "I am the source..."
Prabhupada: (aside:) Sit down.
Revatinandana: That "I am the source of impersonal Brahman, which is eternal, and the constitutional position of ultimate happiness." Does that mean that because everything in the spiritual sky is situated in the brahmajyoti, that therefore it is the position of ultimate happiness?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Revatinandana: Or is it because Krsna is situated in the spiritual sky, therefore the spiritual sky is the position where there is ultimate happiness to be found?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Revatinandana: That is the understanding?
Prabhupada: Yes. In the spiritual sky you will find happiness, real happiness. In the material sky there is no happiness. How it can be happiness, because the four things are there, janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi [Bg. 13.9]? If you think it is happiness in spite of your death, then you are a fool. You do not want to be a dead man, but you are forced to accept death. You do not want to become old man, but you are forced to accept. And these things, if you accepthappinessthat is your foolishness. Vyadhi. Jara-vyadhi, disease. If you are constantly suffering from various types of diseases and if you think you are happy, that is another foolishness. Therefore Bhagavata says, parabhavas tavad abodha-jato yavan na jijnasata atma-tattvam, that "All the foolish persons who are born foolish, all their activities are defeat for them unless they are enlightened to inquire about atma-tattvam."
So in the modern education there is no department for inquiring about atma-tattvam. And they are proud of advancement of learning. But Bhagavata says, parabhava: "These are all defeat." They do not know what is atma, what is atma-tattva. They are identifying, "I am this body." "I am Indian," "I am American," "I am Gujarati," "I am Bengali," "I am this," "I am that." Yasyatma-buddhih kunape tri-dhatuke, sa eva go-kharah [SB 10.84.13]. Anyone who identifies himself with this body, he is nothing but ass and cow. And that is going on. We are fighting, nations and nations, community and community, religious party and religious partybecause due to the misidentification of body. Therefore Krsna consciousness begins when one is above this bodily concept of life. Sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam [Cc. Madhya 19.170]. These are upadhis, designations. So these Krsna conscious boys and girls, they are no longer thinking that "I am American," "I am Canadian," "I am French," "I am German." No. "I am Indian." No. They know certainly that "I am part and parcel of Krsna. I am eternally servant of Krsna." And that is our real identity. That is Krsna consciousness. They are no more interested to be identified as American or European. And this is knowledge. And this is mukti. If one is under the misconception that "I am American," "I am Indian," then how there is mukti? There is no mukti. Mukti means svarupena avasthiti, to stay in his own constitutional position. That is called mukti.
So this movement is very important movement. Everyone should seriously study and execute this. Don't be carried away by the illusory ideas of material existence. Sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam [Cc. Madhya 19.170]. It is very easy. If you simply chant this Hare Krsna mantra, Caitanya Mahaprabhu said, ceto-darpana-marjanam [Cc. Antya 20.12]immediately all the misconception within your heart will be cleansed. This is misconception: "I am this body." "I am American," "I am Indian," "I am brahmana," "I am Gujarati," "I am Bengali." These are all misconceptions. You are part and parcel of God, Krsna. That is your identity. So that can be realized. The easiest process is this chanting Hare... Ceto-darpana-marjanam bhava-maha-davagni-nirvapanam. And next stage is that the blazing fire of this material existence will be extinguished immediately. Here in our disciples you'll find Americans, Europeans, Japanese, Africans. They are all absorbed in Krsna thoughts, chanting Hare Krsna. They have lost all these misgivings, upadhi, designations, nonsense designations. The nonsense designation is the cause of their bondage. So let us realize that we are not this, not this. We are eternally... Just like Caitanya Mahaprabhu immediately says, gives to you the highest philosophy, jivera svarupa haya nitya krsna dasa [Cc. Madhya 20.108-109]. Tatastha-sakti jata acintya bhedabheda-prakasa. In two lines He has given the whole idea of jiva-tattva. Jivera svarupa haya nitya krsna dasa. You can explain in so many books these two lines. The real identity of the living entity is that he is eternal servant of Krsna.
Hamsaduta: What is the second line? Jivera svarupa...
Prabhupada: Jivera svarupa haya nitya krsna dasa, tatastha-sakti acintya bhedabheda, tatastha-sakti prakasa. The jiva is the manifestation of the marginal potency of Krsna. Krsna has many potencies. Parasya saktir vividhaiva sruyate [Cc. Madhya 13.65, purport]in the Vedic injunction. The Absolute Truth has many varieties of energy. Those energies are consolidated into three divisions: spiritual energy, material energy and marginal energy. So these jivas are products of this marginal energy, bhedabheda prakasa. Bhedabheda means... bheda means different, and abheda means one. So jiva is one and different simultaneous. He is one in quality; he is different in quantity. So when you are free from all these designations,
At that time, when we are purified, when we have purified our senses, when in that sense we shall engage ourself in the matter of satisfying the owner of the senses, HrsikesaKrsna is Hrsikesathat is called bhakti. Bhakti is not a sentiment. Bhakti is practical, by purified senses ... Krsna's birth... Krsna is born as son of Devaki. So how do you explain that His birth is transcendental? How do you explain? Anyone can explain. Krsna says that "My birth is not ordinary birth. It is transcendental." But we see that He is born of father, mother, He accepts father, mother. Now, how it is transcendental?
Hamsaduta: You explained, just like the sun rises... Like the sun rises every morning and it appears to our eyes that sometimes it's there, sometimes it's not there, but actually it's always there, Krsna is always there.
Prabhupada: (aside:) (Hindi) So I am very glad that you have come early in the morning. So what is the transcendental? That is an example, but what is the transcendental nature of His birth? (Hindi)
Devotee (1): That He has appeared many, many times.
Prabhupada: You also appear many, many times.
Devotee (1): But by His yogamaya He appears as a child, an ordinary child, but He did not appear as an ord... He is not an ordinary child. This material nature is always under His direct control. And even if you accept that He takes a material body, He does so of His own free will. He does not do so, forced by the modes of material nature.
Prabhupada: Why? Why He takes a free will? There must be some reason.
Devotee (1): The reason for it is...
Devotee (2): Because He's the cause of all causes.
Prabhupada: That's all right. But why He appeared?
Devotee (3): For the pleasure of His devotees.
Prabhupada: Yes. That's nice. Very good. Yes. Ma Yasoda wanted Krsna to be his (her) child, and therefore He comes. Paritranaya sadhunam vinasaya ca duskrtam [Bg. 4.8]. Other things are secondary. He comes for the devotees. That is the transcendental. He is so kind that mother Yasoda wanted Him as child. He played so nicely, as if completely dependent on mother Yasoda. So mother Yasoda had full enjoyment of his (her) child, Krsna. This is transcendental. As the devotee wants to please the Lord, similarly, the Lord also wants to please the devotee. That is transcendental. Now you know. [break] And "I am the cause of all the devatas." Brahma is the first creature, and he is father. Now, how He can take birth like that? He is the father of Brahma, Purana, the oldest. Advaitam acyutam anadim ananta, puranam nava-yauvanam [Bs. 5.33]. The oldest, but He is always young. This is very nice. He has said that He appears for the devotees' pleasure. That's nice. So you should always think. You must be thoughtful. Janma karma me divyam yo janati tattvatah [Bg. 4.9]. So you have become liberated. You are liberated now.
Devotee (3): Become liberated?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Devotee (3): I would ask back in, Prabhupada, in order to...(?)
Prabhupada: Because Krsna says, "Anyone who knows Me in My transcendental nature, he immediately becomes liberated." (end)

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