711120LE.DEL
Pandal Lecture

Delhi, November 20, 1971
Prabhupada: This flower is made by Krsna, so beautiful, so aromatic, let me offer it to Krsna. The same flower, you can become sensuous, and you can give service to Krsna. This is Krsna consciousness. There is nothing to be invented. Everything is there. Simply you have to change your consciousness. If you do not do that, then it is maya. Then Krsna is there. Krsna has given you all facilities. Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati [Bg. 18.61], He is there within your heart. He knows what is your purpose of life. You cannot hide from Krsna anything you desire. If you desire Krsna, then Krsna gives you intelligence, buddhi-yogam dadami tam. "Yes, take this intelligence, you will come to Me." Yena mam upayanti. But if you desire to enjoy this material world, then He will give you facility, different types of body. If you think that "I shall eat fresh flesh and fresh blood," "All right, you become a tiger. Why you are desiring? I give you all facility. You have got nails and teeth, and you just enjoy." Krsna gives you that enjoyment. If you don't discriminate what is your food, whatever you like you eat, all nonsense, "All right, you become a hog. Eat up to the stool." And the stool... The body is made so that the hog will like to eat stool. That is said by Prahlada Maharaja, deha-yogena dehinam. The material enjoyment is given facility by Krsna by a particular type of body. Deha-yogena dehinam. So this is going on.
Now here is the chance, that human form of body. Now you have got discrimination, you can understand because your consciousness is advanced. Now you can make your choice whether you want to continue this repeated birth and death in different species of life or you want to go back to home, back to Godhead. That is your discretion. Therefore Prahlada Maharaja says,
Very nice instruction. "My dear friends," durlabham, durlabham manusam janma, "this human form of body is very, very rare to achieve. Now we have got it. Therefore, let us begin Krsna consciousness from very childhood." That is the Vedic system. From the very childhood, a brahmacari is given Krsna consciousness so that in future his life becomes perfect. What is that perfect? He knows Krsna by Krsna consciousness perfectly. And what is the result? If one knows Krsna perfectly, then tyaktva deham punar janma naiti [Bg. 4.9], then after giving up this body, he does not come again back to take another material body, and he goes back to home.
So this Krsna consciousness movement is very scientific, based on Vedic knowledge. And it is so perfect that we are actually seeing that anyone who is taking this Krsna consciousness movement, he is feeling how happy he is. I am getting thousands of letter from Western countries, from my disciples, how much transcendental feeling they are enjoying. So I do not wish to take much of your time. This Krsna consciousness should be injected from the very beginning of life, from childhood. So here our Honorable High Commissioner of Canada is present, His Excellency. So I request that you have come to our country, please try to understand this philosophy. And so far I have traveled in your country... I have traveled in Canada also; as you have already mentioned, we have got five branches—in Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver, Hamilton, and Ottawa. So the boys are struggling, they are distributing literature, the books, and I am getting very encouraging report, many young men they are coming. It is a very scientific movement. So I would request you to inform your government to give these boys who are struggling to inject this Krsna consciousness movement in your country all facility. Thank you very much. Hare Krsna. (break)
Govinda, the Lord. Go means the cow, and go means the senses, and go means the land. So Krsna, the reservoir of all pleasure, especially gives pleasure to the senses. Govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami **. So our senses are there. You cannot stop the activities of the senses. Yoga indriya samyama. The purpose of yoga is to control the senses by observing the regulative principle, yama-niyama, then practicing a particular type of sitting posture. It is somehow or other mechanical, because those who are grossly in the concept of body, they are recommended to practice this hatha-yoga so that by this process his mind can be concentrated on Krsna. Yoga indriya samyama.
So actually our indriyas can be controlled when they are engaged in the service of the Lord. Hrsikena hrsikesa-sevanam [Cc. Madhya 19.170]. Otherwise it is not possible to control the senses. You cannot stop the activities of senses. That is not possible. Because we are living entity, we have our senses, and it must act. In the Bhagavad-gita, it is said that you cannot stop the action of the mind even for a moment. And mind is the central point of our sensuous activities. Therefore, if you want to control the senses, then you have to learn this bhagavata-dharma. Prahlada Maharaja therefore recommending, kaumara acaret prajno dharman bhagavatan iha [SB 7.6.1]. From the very childhood one should practice this bhagavata-dharma. This bhagavata-dharma means sravanam kirtanam visnoh [SB 7.5.23]. They have manufactured many other kirtana parties, but the sastra says sravanam kirtanam visnoh. That is bhagavata-dharma. Bhagavata comes from the word bhagavan. Bhaga means opulence, and van means one who possesses. That is bhagavan. The Supreme Personality of Godhead is Bhagavan. Brahmeti paramatmeti bhagavan iti sabdyate [SB 1.2.11]. The Absolute Truth is realized in three features—Brahman, Paramatma, Bhagavan. Bhagavan understanding is the last word in the understanding of the Absolute Truth, because bhaga means opulence. There are six kinds of opulences—wealth, strength, reputation, beauty, knowledge, and renunciation. If somebody is very rich, he is attractive. Everyone goes to this man. Sometimes we also go to rich man, "Sir, give us some money," because a rich man is attractive. But in this material world, nobody can claim that he has got all the riches. Nobody can claim. But Krsna can claim. Krsna says,
Now, He is the enjoyer of all sacrifices. Now, try to understand that in this material world, there are millions and trillions of universes, and each universe there are millions and trillions of planets. And each planet, there are millions and trillions of living entities. Now if not all, some of them are offering sacrifices, at least the sober section, in all the universes, and Krsna is enjoying. Bhoktaram yajna-tapasam. Just imagine how much He is eating. And similarly, He is the proprietor. He says that sarva-loka-mahesvaram [Bg. 5.29], "I am the proprietor of all the planets," sarva-loka. Not only in this universe, but also there are millions and trillions of universes. If we have to accept the verdict of the sastra, the Brahma-samhita says yasya prabha prabhavato jagad-anda-koti-kotisv asesa-vasudhadi-vibhuti-bhinnam [Bs. 5.40]. In each universe, there are ananta, unlimited number of planets. So Krsna claims that sarva-loka-mahesvaram, "I am the proprietor of all the planets." Then who can compare his riches with Krsna? You can find out some rich man in this world, but they might have a several hundreds of factories or several hundreds of houses, but nobody can claim that "I am the proprietor of all the houses and all the factories on all the planets." That is not possible. That is being claimed by Krsna. Sarva-loka-mahesvaram. And suhrdam sarva-bhutanam. We are establishing many humanitarian activities. Just like the other day our chief guest, Dr. Atmaram, was speaking that by scientific advancement we are trying to give food to the needy and cloth to the naked. That's all right. But Krsna is feeding unlimited number of living entities, beginning from the elephant down to the ant. Suhrdam sarva-bhutanam. He is friend of everyone. As friend, He is sitting in the heart of all living entities. He is sitting in your heart, He is sitting in my heart, He is sitting in the ant's heart. The ant has also heart and the elephant has got also heart. Sometimes we find an insect exactly like a full stop. You have got experience. Sometimes when you open your book you find. They are called bookworm, they're very small, but it is moving. And because it is moving, from biological study we must conclude that it has got a heart. Even we do not know about biology, but Krsna said that isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati [Bg. 18.61]. So, therefore, there must be some heart. We cannot perceive. We cannot see even the whole figure of that insect, and what to speak of study what kind of heart it has got. But we understand Bhagavad-gita..., from Bhagavad-gita that there is heart even in the smallest insect, in the microscopic germ, there is heart. So He is sitting in everyone's heart and He is supplying the necessities of that smaller creature or the biggest creature. Suhrdam sarva-bhutanam [Bg. 5.29].
So when we understand Krsna in that way, that is understanding tattvatah.
If we understand Krsna superficially, that is not tattvic understanding. The tattvic understanding are in truth. You can get information from the Vedas what is Krsna, or from Bhagavad-gita. Bhagavad-gita is the cream of all Vedas. Sarvopanisada gava. Vedas, and the topmost part of Veda are the Upanisads. There are a hundred eight Upanisads, of which Isopanisad is the topmost. Isavasyam idam sarvam [Iso mantra 1]. So we have to understand Krsna from this Vedic literature, tat vijnana(?). And to understand the Vedic literature, we have to approach a person who has actually assimilated the purpose of Vedas. Krsna also said, vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyam [Bg. 15.15]. The purpose of studying Vedas is to understand Krsna. Or in other words, if anyone has understood Krsna, he has studied all the Vedas.
So this analytical study of Bhagavan Sri Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Govinda, is called bhagavata-dharma because bhagavata..., bhagavata sabda. And from bhagavata, bhagavata [long "a"]. Bhabat(?). So bhagavata-dharma means to understand Krsna. So Prahlada Maharaja recommends that from the very childhood,
These instruction of Prahlada Maharaja is very important, very important, and we are trying to spread this bhagavata-dharma all over the world. And people are very happy to receive it. Unfortunately, this bhagavata-dharma was not explained in the Western countries. I do not wish to discuss, but at the present moment, because this bhagavata-dharma as recommended by Prahlada Maharaja is being preached all over the world, they are appreciating very much the glories of India. So as recommended by Prahlada Maharaja, this study of Bhagavan Sri Krsna should be introduced in the schools and colleges. I wanted to speak to the Vice Chancellor, and I expected him today, but he did not come. This is our unfortunate. I do not know why he avoided, but never mind; you try to understand. Don't spoil your children. The modern educational system without any knowledge of Bhagavan, I may tell you frankly, not only in India, everywhere, they are practically slaughterhouse. Because in our country, it is a different thing; at least we have got the Vedic culture at home if it is not in the schools. But in other countries, because there is no bhagavata-dharma culture, the students, although they are provided with ample opportunity for education, the nicest educational system, nice building, nice facilities, everything nice, unfortunately the products are coming out frustrated, confused young men, and some of them are called hippies. They are educated. They are coming from very nice aristocratic family. In Western countries, in comparison to our country, every home is aristocratic. At least their standard of living is so high. So what we call aristocratic, that is a common affair. So this mishappening is going on all over the Western countries. Some of them are joining us, but this is the problem. The Prahlada Maharaja recommends, kaumara acaret prajno dharman bhagavatan iha [SB 7.6.1]. This is very, very important message. We should be careful to educate our sons, our boys, with bhagavata-dharma from the very beginning of life. That was the Vedic system. Therefore, in the first twenty-five years of life, the children were sent to gurukula for learning this bhagavata-dharma.
So the educational system should take very seriously if at all they want to make their country nice, not varna-sankarah. Strisu dustasu varna-sankarah bhavisyati. This Vedic culture is so scientifically made. Just like according to Vedic culture, the women are instructed or trained up to become very chaste, very chaste. Only one husband. Why? That is explained: strisu dustasu varna-sankarah bhavisyati. If women do not remain chaste, then unwanted population will come out. That is called varna-sankarah. Varna-sankarah means unwanted population. Actually all over the world this is happening, and therefore, the problems of the world becoming very serious and grave. So these are all scientific proposals. The educational system must be reformed. Not that godless, no education, secular government, no education of God in the schools and colleges. This is not a very good proposal. Here we get authoritative statement of Prahlada Maharaja. He is one of the mahajana. Our process is mahajano yena gatah sa panthah [Cc. Madhya 17.186]. We have to follow the footsteps of great personalities. That is our method. We don't manufacture our own way of living. We simply follow the great personalities. Mahajano yena gatah sa panthah. Tarko 'pratisthah. You cannot come to the right conclusion simply by argument. You may be very good arguer; another comes better arguer than you. So simply by argument, you cannot come to the conclusion. Tarko 'pratisthah srutayo vibhinna.
Now, there are Vedas, four VedasSama Veda, Atharva Veda, Yajus Veda, Rk Veda. And there are Upanisads, the Vedanta-sutra, the Puranas, Ramayana, Mahabharata—there are so many things. That is in India. And outside India or outside Vedic culture, there are many scriptures. Therefore it is said, srutayo vibhinna. There are innumerable Vedic scriptures. So we cannot come to the conclusion what is right or wrong, because sometimes you will find contradiction from one... Of course, there is no contradiction, but because we are not advanced in knowledge, sometimes we will find contradiction. Just like in India there are two classes of transcendentalists: the impersonalist and the personalist. That is not contradiction. The Absolute Truth is both impersonal and personal, but somebody is stressing on the impersonal point of view and somebody is stressing on the personal point of view. But we Vaisnava, we know what is the meaning of impersonalism and what is the meaning of personalism. We take it for understanding, as it is stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam, brahmeti paramatmeti bhagavan iti sabdyate [SB 1.2.11]. The Absolute Truth is simultaneously Brahman, Paramatma and Bhagavan. It is simply different stages of understanding. In the first stage, it is Brahman realization. In the second stage, it is Paramatma realization. And at the last stage, it is Bhagavan realization.
So it is a great science. Bhagavata-tattva vijnanam. It is not that you can create your Bhagavan by concoction, imagination. Just like the Mayavadi philosophers say that sadhakanam hitvarthaya brahmano rupa-kalpanah(?): for the benefit or for the facility of the neophyte progressing in the spiritual knowledge, we have to imagine some form of the Brahman. That is not the fact. We do not find these things in the Vedic literature. We find in the Vedic literature that the Absolute Truth is realized in three features—Brahman, Paramatma, and Bhagavan. The substance is one, but according to our capacity, we understand differently. Just like example. If you see a great mountain, say Himalayan Mountain. Just like the other day when I was coming from Calcutta to Delhi, the Himalayan Mountains were seen from the plane, and it appeared just like a great city. But that is my shortage of vision. I cannot see what is Himalaya. Similarly, as we see imperfectly the Himalayan Mountain from a distant place, similarly, when the Absolute Truth is realized by the speculative process, he can simply understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead by His effulgence as impersonal. And if you make further progress, then we can see... The same example. We are seeing the Himalayan Mountain from a distant place but if we make further advance, further, nearer, we see different thing. And when actually in the Himalayan Mountain, the thing is altogether different. Similarly, when you understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead from distance... Just like you cannot understand the sun globe from here. Although sunshine is light, sun globe is light, still we cannot understand what is sun globe from distant place.
So these are the statements in the sastra about bhagavata-dharma. Not that we accept Krsna blindly as the Supreme Personality of Godhead. It is a science. Bhagavata-tattva vijnanam. But this vijnana, this scientific knowledge, is understandable not by your imperfect speculation. You have to accept the proper method of understanding. That method is called bhakti. Just like Krsna says, bhaktya mam abhijanati [Bg. 18.55]. You cannot understand Krsna simply by speculation. That is not possible. You cannot understand Krsna simply by meditation. That is also not possible. If you actually seriously want to understand Krsna, then you have to take the process of bhakti. Jnana-vairagya yuktaya [SB 1.2.12]. Bhaktya sruta-grhitaya. There is a statement, the Absolute Truth can be understood by bhakti, and that bhakti received through the aural reception of your ear. My Guru Maharaja used to say that if you want to know a saintly person, you try to understand him by your ear, not by the eyes. You cannot understand a saintly person by staring your eyes, "Let me see what kind of..." No. That is not possible. Therefore sastra says, bhaktya sruta-grhitaya. You have to understand the Absolute Truth by devotion. At the same time, sruta-grhitaya. Sruta means taking information by hearing from the srotriyam brahma-nistham guru [MU 1.2.12], by hearing from the right source and with bhakti. Bhaktya sruta-grhitaya. This is the process.
In the Bhagavad-gita also the same process is recommended.
Krsna does not say that you become a sentimental devotee. These European and American boys, they are dancing not by sentiment. That is actual transcendental ecstasy. Therefore, it is so nice. You cannot expect this dancing from a professional man. That is not possible. Professional man, his aim is money, and their aim is Krsna. That is the difference. Therefore, to learn bhakti, the process is sruta-grhitaya. You have to receive the perfect knowledge from the Vedas and understand what is bhakti. Our gosvami, Srila Rupa Gosvami, he says that,
sruti-smrti-puranadi-
pancaratra-vidhim vina
aikantiki harer bhaktir
utpatayaiva kalpate
[Brs. 1.2.101]
One who accept bhakti-marga without reference of this sruti and smrti and pancaratriki-vidhi... Sruti means the Vedas, and smrti means the Puranas or Mahabharata, Bhagavad-gita. They are called smrti. And pancaratriki-vidhi, that is given by Narada Muni, because he is the great authority in the science of devotional service. Vyasadeva is his disciple. Prahlada Maharaja is his disciple. He has got great, great disciples who are in the bhakti line. And therefore he has given the pancaratriki-vidhi. In the pancaratriki-vidhi, it is said that you have to be free from the designation. Designation. You have to forget yourself that you are Hindu, you are Musselman, you are Sikh or you are Christian. These are all designations. Therefore Krsna says, sarva-dharman parityajya [Bg. 18.66]. You have to purify. Don't be contaminated by any type of religion which is made by man. Real religion is made by God.
So you try to understand what is God and try to understand what sort of religion he has given. So that you can receive by bhaktya sruta-grhitaya. Sruti-smrti-puranadi-pancaratra-vidhi [Brs. 1.2.101]. Vidhi, a regulative principle. Just like Krsna says that yesam anta-gatam papam, that what are the papas, sinful life? The sastra says, striyah suna pana dyuta yatra papas catur-vidhah [SB 1.17.38]. These four things are the four pillars of sinful life. What are these? Avaida stri-sanga: womanly connection which is illegitimate. You cannot have any connection with woman without being married. That is Vedic instruction. Otherwise, what is the difference between animal and man? There is no marriage in the animal kingdom. But in the human society, never mind whether it is in India or Russia or China, there is marriage system in the human society, maybe methods may be different. Therefore, womanly connection, man and woman living together without marital connection, that is papa, sinful life. That is the injunction of the sastra. Similarly, striyah suna. Suna means unnecessarily killing the animals. Just like slaughterhouse. You cannot maintain slaughterhouse in the human society and at the same time you want peace. It is not possible. Every living entity is son of God. You cannot kill even an ant, then you dissatisfy God. Take for example just like a gentleman has got five sons, one of them is useless, doing nothing. But if the expert son says, "My dear father, your this son is useless. Let us kill him and eat," cannibal. Will the father agree, "Oh, yes, yes, this son is useless. You can kill and eat"? Time will come in this Kali-yuga when actually people will become what is called man-eater. Still there are existence man-eaters in Africa. So the human society is coming to that position. Like animal, they will eat their own sons and daughters. So therefore this practice, unnecessarily killing animal, is one of the pillar of sinful life.
Striyah suna pana dyuta. Pana means intoxication. We are already intoxicated by illusion. Because we are in the material world, we are accepting false things. Just like this body. I am accepting I am this body. This is intoxication. I am soul, I am Brahman, but I am accepting this body that I am this body. This is already intoxication. And if you increase more intoxication, then where is the possibility of getting real knowledge, brahma-jnana? So the pana, intoxication, should be avoided. Animal killing should be avoided. Illicit connection with woman should be avoided. And gambling, speculation, Patavad(?), that should be eliminated, avoided. Then you get the chance of becoming pure. And without being pure, you cannot be engaged in the loving service of the Lord. The Lord is pure. Param brahma param dhama pavitram paramam bhavan [Bg. 10.12]. So you cannot approach Lord being impure. Even I do not indulge in illicit sex life or meat-eating or very much moralist, still I am impure if I think myself "I am Indian," "I am American," "I am Hindu," "I am Muslim." These are also impurities.
So the bhagavat-dharma means to become completely pure. Sarvopadhi-vinirmuktam tat-paratvena nirmalam [Cc. Madhya 19.170]. And you cannot keep your purity without being in touch with Krsna. Therefore, so many moralistic movement has failed. Harav abhaktasya kuto mahad-guna [SB 5.18.12]. Even one has got brahma-jnana, even one is elevated to become mixed or amalgamated with the brahmajyoti, still he is not pure. That is the statement of sastra.
ye 'nye 'ravindaksa vimukta-maninas
tvayy asta-bhavad avisuddha-buddhayah
aruhya krcchrena param padam tatah
patanty adhah...
[SB 10.2.32]
They will fall down. We have seen many sannyasis, they have given up this world, brahma satyam jagan mithya, but they are still coming to politics, also to social organization, welfare activity. When you have left this world as nontruth, mithya, then why do you come again? That means they did not get the real relish of Brahman. That is stated in the sastra, that vimukta-maninah: falsely they are thinking that they have become liberated. Otherwise, their intelligence is not purified some way. Somebody is thinking, "I am Indian," somebody is thinking, "I am Hindu," that is impurity. Real purity is tat-paratvena nirmalam [Cc. Madhya 19.170], "I am Krsna's. I am simply Krsna's. Krsna is mine, I am Krsna's." This is purity, and this is the culture of bhagavata-dharma.
So Prahlada Maharaja is recommending this bhagavata-dharma. Kaumaram acaret prajno dharman bhagavatan iha. So this human form of life is meant for cultivating this bhagavata-dharma. And if you are missing, then we are committing suicide, atmaha. This very word is used in the sastra, atmaha. So our request to everyone is that you try to understand Krsna scientifically. Krsna-tattva vijnanam. It is not a sentiment or philosophical speculation or fanaticism. It is not that. It is a fact. Now, one should have intelligence to understand, that's all. But the method is so simple that we are fortunate, we accept immediately the version of Krsna, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam [Bg. 18.66], then our life is successful immediately. If we accept this statement of Krsna that "You simply surrender unto Me," and we do it, immediately we become relieved from this material contamination. Krsna says, aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami. You immediately become pure. And,
If you sincerely surrender to Krsna, immediately you become immune from all sinful activities. And then as soon as you become free, yesam anta-gatam papam, then all your papas, sinful activities, immediately vanquished, then you become eligible for serving Krsna. Te dvandva-moha-nirmukta. The sign is that he has no more duality. Krsna says mam ekam, and he believes that Krsna ekam, "Simply by serving Krsna I will be successful." That is explained in the Caitanya-caritamrta,
This is sraddha. This is actually sraddha, faith, not faltering, "I do not know whether Krsna will be able to save me. Why shall I surrender to Him? Let me surrender to so many demigods." Krsna says those who are thinking like that, they are hrta-jnanah. Kamais tais tair hrta-jnanah yajante anya-devatah [Bg. 7.20]. Antavat tu phalam tesam tad bhavaty alpa-medhasam [Bg. 7.23].
So our request is that the guardians who are present here in this meeting, they should organize a special school to give lesson to their students, to their boys, this Krsna consciousness, bhagavata-dharma. There is vast knowledge behind this. They will be enlightened. Their life will be successful. So in this city of Delhi, it is a great city and very important city. There are very important men here. They should kindly consider this proposal that there must be a very organized school to understand this bhagavata-dharma, just to teach their boys, and their life will be successful. It is the duty of the father and mother to see that "My son, this is the last attempt of coming into this material world." Na mocayed yah samupeta-mrtyum. It is the duty of the father and the mother to stop the repetition of birth and death of his son. The mother should consider that "My son came to my womb, and he has suffered so much while he was remaining within the womb. Now I shall teach my son in such a way that no more he is going in the womb of a material mother." That is the duty of father, that is the duty of mother, that is the duty of friend, that is the duty of guru. Gurur na sa syat sva-jano na sa syat pita na sa syaj janani na sa syat, na mocayed yah samupeta-mrtyum. So save your children from the danger of repetition of birth and death, that is the real discharge of father and mother's duty.
Thank you very much. Hare Krsna. (end)

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