Bhagavad-gītā 13.1–2 – December 29, 1972, Bombay

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Bodily Field and the Tiller

Pradyumna: Translation: "Arjuna said: O my dear Krsna, I wish to know about prakrti, nature; purusa, or the enjoyer; and the field and the knower of the field; and of knowledge and the end of knowledge. The Blessed Lord then said: This body, O son of Kunti, is called the field, and one who knows this body..., who knows this body is called the knower of the field."

Prabhupada: Hm. Ksetra-ksetra-jnam. Just like we are living in this apartment and we know that I am not this apartment, but I am living in this apartment. The people say that because the Supersoul or the soul is living within this body, therefore the body is soul.

This is not very good argument. That is being cleared by Krsna Himself. Idam sariram kaunteya ksetram ity abhidhiyate [Bg 13.2]. Ksetra. Ksetra means land or a place. So idam sariram kaunteya ksetram ity abhidhiyate. And, the next line?

Pradyumna: Etad yo vetti tam...

Prabhupada: Etad yo vetti, and one who knows it, he's ksetra-jnaḥ. Jnaḥ means in knowledge.

So we should know this, that "I am not this body; it is my body." If we analyze the body, I say, "It is my hand," "It is my leg," "It is my head." Nobody says "I head" or "I hand." "I" is different from this body. I am living in this apartment, but I am not this apartment. But the modern civilization is going on on the basic idea that "I am this body." "I am American," "I am Indian," "I am brahmana," "I am ksatriya," "I am man," "I am woman." This is condemned. This is condemned.

This is... This is the concession of the animals. The animals, they do not know that the dog, the body-dog and the soul who has obtained the body of a dog... The soul is different from the body. This is the Vedic information: asahgo 'yam purusaḥ. [break] The living entity, soul, is not this material body. Asahga. He has no, I mean to say, association. He's put into that condition, but he's different from the body.

[Sarasvati crying for Malati in background]

[aside:] What is that? She has gone out and cannot come.

So this should be clearly understood. This is knowledge, that "I am not this body." What is the next, second line?

Pradyumna: Ksetram ity abhidhiyate.

Prabhupada: Yes. Next?

Pradyumna: Etad yo vetti tam prahuḥ...

Prabhupada: Etad yo vetti. So if you study, if you meditate on our body, so "I am this body. I am this finger." No. The answer will come: "No, I am not this body. I am... It is my body. It is my finger. It is my head." This is simple thing. And here it is confirmed by the supreme authority, Krsna. And we can experiment it, that how it is that I am identifying myself with this body?

Therefore sastra says: yasyatma-buddhiḥ kunape tri-dhatuke. This body is a, a product of the three dhatus, according to Ayur-vedic system: kapha-pitta-vayu. So anyone who is accepting this body made of three elements, kapha-pitta-vayu, he is no better than go-kharaḥ. Sa eva go-kharaḥ. An animal.

Go-kharaḥ. Go means cow, and kharaḥ means ass. So people are identifying with this body, but sastra says such persons are no better than the cows and the asses. Now just try to understand what is this civilization. Just try to understand. It is this... It is a combination of cows and asses. Because everyone is identifying, "I am this body." "I am American," "I am Russian," "I am China." "Let us fight." "I am Hindu," "I am Muslim." This is going on.

The simple knowledge is lacking. The simple knowledge, that "I am not this body. I am..." Aham brahmasmi. The Vedic language. So 'ham. So 'ham means I am the same spirit soul as the Supersoul, as Krsna. I am qualitatively one. As Krsna is sac-cid-ananda-vigraha, similarly I am also sac-cid-ananda, part and parcel. The difference is that I am very minute.

As we have several times explained, the minute particle of gold is also gold. That is not different. Minute, a drop of the sea water is also the same, qualitatively; the same chemicals. Similarly, we, being part and parcel of Krsna, we are not subjected to the material condition. But we have put ourself in this material condition. That is called maya. We wanted to enjoy separately, de..., separated from Krsna, and therefore we are put into a condition which is illusion.

That I have already explained several times. At night, we forget all this body. Although in daytime I identify myself that "I am American," "I am Indian," "I am brahmana," at night, when I sleep, I forget whether I am American, Indian or brahmana and ksatriya. This is our daily experience. I am in different atmosphere.

I am dreaming something. But again at daytime I forget what I dreamt at night. So sometimes we go very unknown place, very nice place, nice building, nice atmosphere. Huh? And at..., as soon as the dream is over, then again I am on my bed. You see? And when I dream, I forget I'm not in my bed, but I'm in the surrounding of palaces, of gardens. So this is our daily experience.

So because we wanted to imitate Krsna, krsna bhuliya jiva bhoga vancha kare [Prema-vivarta],

the Krsna has given us a place which is illusion, which is not fact. Temporary. Illusion. Just like we sometimes see water in the desert. That is illusion. Practically there is no illusion, uh, there is no water. But we see, "Oh, here is water, vast water." The animal, they run after the water. Similarly, we are also running after this illusion: "There is happiness. There is happiness." Therefore there is no happiness.

At the fag end of life, we are disappointed, we are frustrated. Brdhya kala aula saba sukha pagala.[?] When we cannot again..., no more we can enjoy with our senses, then we become very much depressed. Old men, you'll find old men, those who are not spiritually inclined, they're very morose. Morose because they cannot use anymore the senses. They sometimes take medicine. But how it can be done? So brdhya kala aula.[?]

So we are under this illusion. This is called maya. We should understand that we are not this body. We are not this body. Our bodily enjoyment, sense gratification, that is illusion. In another place in the Bhagavad-gita you'll find it is said, sukham atyantikam yat tat atindriyam grahyam.

[aside:] Find out that verse.

Sukham atyantikam yat tad atindriyam grahyam. We are trying to enjoy life with these material senses, but that is illusion, that is temporary. Temporary and illusion. Real enjoyment is with our spiritual senses.

[aside:] What is it...? Have you got?

Prabhupada: What is the translation?

Pradyumna: There's a few verses together. "The stage of perfection is called trance, or samadhi, when one mind..., when one's mind is completely restrained from material mental activities by practice of yoga. This is characterized by one's ability to see the self by the pure mind and to relish and rejoice in the self. In that joyous state, one is situated in boundless transcendental happiness and enjoys himself through transcendental senses. Established thus, one never departs from the truth, and upon gaining this, he thinks there is no greater gain."

Prabhupada: So every information is there. If we want actually happiness, then we have to purify the material consciousness. That is Krsna consciousness movement. We have come to the point of Krsna consciousness. That Krsna consciousness can be achieved by the grace of Krsna. Krsna consciousness... Athapi te deva padambhuja-dvayam-prasada-lesanugrhita eva hi [SB 10.14.29]. Krsna cannot be understood by any other method than the Krsna method. Krsna is absolute. Therefore if one wants to understand Krsna, he must take the Krsna method. Krsna method.

Because Krsna is absolute, there is no difference between Krsna and the method of attaining Krsna. They are the same. Method... The bhakti method means Krsna method. Bhakta-bhagavan. And the method to approach Bhagavan is called bhakti. The whole thing is based on one root: bhaj. Bhaj-dhatu. Bhaj-dhatu. That means offering loving service to the Lord. And Krsna says, bhaktya mam abhijanati [Bg 18.55].

Bhajate mam ananya-bhak. These words are there: sadhur eva sa mantavyaḥ [Bg 9.30], api cet su-duracaro bhajate mam ananya-bhak. Bhajate, this very... Bhajate. Catur-vidha bhajante mam. This word, bhaja is very important thing. From bhaja, the word bhakti comes. Bhaja dhatu ukti.[?] So bhakti means bhajana. Bhajate mam ananya-bhak. Mahatmanas tu mam partha daivim prakrtim asritaḥ, bhajanty ananya-manasaḥ [Bg 9.13].

Again: bhajanti. Mahatmanas tu mam partha daivim prakrtim asritaḥ. This bhajana is for mahatmas, not for the duratmas, or ksudratma. Mahatma. One whose atma has been expanded, mahatma. Not crippled. Those who are thinking in terms of society, nationality, country, religion or so many things, they are not mahatmas; they are ksudratmas: small, cripple-minded. Those, those who are thinking in broader way.

Just like Caitanya Mahaprabhu. He says, prthivite ache yata nagaradi grama. He's not thinking in terms of... Prthivite ache yata nagaradi grama :

as many towns and villages are there all over the world. He's not thinking in terms of "my village," "my country," "my society." Everyone is thinking like that. But those who are mahatma actually, they are thinking in a broader way. Prthivite ache yata nagaradi grama. Krsna is thinking in terms of all living entities. Sarva-yonisu kaunteya sambhavanti mūrtayaḥ yaḥ [Bg 14.4]: "All living entities, in all species of life, in all forms of life," aham bija-pradaḥ pita, "I am their father."

So this is called mahatma. Krsna is thinking in terms of all living entities. People are saying that Krsna, Indian, Hindu God. Why Hindu God? The dictionary, it is said, in English dictionary, that Krsna is one Hindu God. Is not? In the dictionary. Why Hindu God? He says that "I am the father of all living entities." Why He should be the father of the Hindus, Indians? He's father of everyone. He says.

But they write in the dictionary: "Krsna is Hindu God." Misinterpretation. Krsna does not say. He... And Krsna Himself, as Caitanya Mahaprabhu, says, prthivite ache yata nagaradi grama: "As many villages and towns are there," sarvatra pracara haibe mora nama, that "My name will be celebrated in every village, every town."

So this Krsna consciousness movement is not a crippled movement. It is very broad movement, claiming all living entities to come to Krsna, back to home, back to Godhead. Therefore we should not be bodily conscious. Krsna here says: the body is not "I am this body." Idam sariram ksetram. It is a field of activities. Ksetram. Field of activities. Just like one who is bodily conscious, he undergoes many severe exercises, so body becomes very stout and strong and he's happy. He's happy. Because he thinks, "I am this body."

Similarly, you can make your body spiritually stronger. As you make your body materially strong, similarly you can make your body... Because this is ksetra. Ksetra means the field, or the land. You, in the land by tilling the land, by cultivating the land, you can produce nice grain also, and inferior grain also, as you work. Because the land is in your possession, you can cultivate as you like. Similarly, this body is land, and I am the tiller. I am the krsaka, or agriculturist. So by using the land, I can become spiritually advanced or I can become materially advanced. It is up to me.

Spiritually advanced means gradually you forget that "I am this material body." "I am Krsna's. I am Brahman." That is spiritually advanced. And material advance means "I am this body." "I am American," "I am Indian," "I am brahmana," "I am ksatriya," "I am man," "woman." This is materially advanced. Both ways. This human form of life... Because it is not animal life. Always remember that I'm not animal; I'm now human being. So I can utilize...

These things will be explained in this chapter, how I can utilize this body. Both ways I can utilize. If I simply limit myself with the bodily necessities of life, just like the animals, eating, sleeping, sex intercourse, and defense-these are common to the human body and the cats' and dogs' body. But because I am human being, I can utilize my body in a different way. The cats and dogs cannot do. That is the difference between a human being and an animal. If you don't utilize my body as human being, then I am no better than cats and dogs.

Actually I am cats and dogs. If we simply limit myself how to eat very nicely, how to sleep very nicely, how to have sex intercourse very nicely and how to defend myself very nicely, then you are no better than animal. But this is the business of the animals. The ani..., animal cannot be invited to become Krsna conscious. That is not possible. Even if he's invited, he cannot sit down, he cannot hear.

Therefore those who are very much advanced in animal propensities, they cannot take part in this Krsna consciousness movement. Those are..., those who are, to say frankly, no better than animals, they cannot take any interest in the Krsna consciousness movement. That is not possible. Therefore Krsna says who can take. He says... We take from Krsna all the words; you don't believe me. Krsna says that,

So animal life means sinful life. Animal life. Even this human form of life is also sinful unless we come to the Krsna consciousness platform. We come to the... Animal life means sinful life. If I act as sinful, like hogs and dogs... Just like if I don't discriminate of eating. Just like the hogs, they have no discrimination. They accept even stool: "Come on. I shall eat." You get the body of hogs or dogs. And if you utilize this body according to the sastra to purify it...

Because human body is meant for purification. Yasmat suddhyet sattvam. That is the given, instruction given by Rsabhadeva. Tapo divyam putraka yasmat suddhyet sattvam yena..., suddhyet sattvam yasmad brahma-saukhyam anantam. Nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke kastan kaman arhati viḍ-bhujam ye [SB 5.5.1]. He advised, instructed His sons, "My dear sons, don't use this body like the hogs and dogs, whole day and night searching after stool, eating, for eating. Don't use this."

And after eating, as soon as there is the sex is strong, then sex life. That is hogs' life. We have seen. These are the examples, nature's. They are very stout and strong, fatty, eating stool. And as soon as fatty, immediately sex life, without any discrimination mother, sister, or anyone. That is hogs. You see from nature's example, dogs and hogs. The dog has no, I mean to say, courtesy or shame. At, in the street, they're having sex life.

So human civilization is coming to that. Already it has come. In Western countries... At least, in our country it has not come still. And Western, it is common affair. Young man, young woman is embracing, kissing, and everything. And sometimes sexually also engaged on the sea beach, in the garden. We have seen it. So practically you are coming to the hogs' and dogs' life. This is our advancement of civilization. Why? On account of this bodily concept of life: "I am this body. I am this body."

Therefore this should be first of all understood. As Krsna says, idam sariram kaunteya ksetram ity... [Bg 13.2]. It has been awarded to you for utilizing it for different purposes, as you like. You can utilize it like cats and dogs and hogs, and you can utilize it as devata, as demigod. That is up to you. We have got little independence. We can utilize or misuse this independence. But the sastra says that this body is not to be utilized as cats and dogs and hogs. Sastra says.

Therefore Krsna says, yaḥ sastra-vidhim utsrjya vartate kama-karataḥ [Bg 16.23]: anyone who does not care for the instruction given in the sastras... Sastra. Just like anyone who doesn't care for the law of the state, what kind of man he is? He's a loafer, a outlaw. He's not a respectable citizen. Similarly, anyone who does not follow the sastric in... Sastras are meant for human being, not for the cats and dogs and hogs, as law is meant for the human being, not for the cats and dogs. Therefore we have to follow the sastric injunction.

As Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita or Vyasadeva says in the Puranas, in the Vedanta-sūtra, they are meant for... As Caitanya Mahaprabhu says,

What for these Vedas and Puranas are meant? Because we have forgotten Krsna. We have forgotten Krsna. Therefore to revive our Krsna consciousness, so many Vedic literatures are there. So many.

So this life is meant for utilizing this body... Tapo divyam putraka yena suddhyet sattvam [SB 5.5.1]. Sattva. Sattva, our sattva, or existence, is not now pure. It is..., because it is not pure, therefore we have to migrate, transmigrate from one body to another according to our desire, according to our karma. Nature is giving you. Bhramayan sarva-bhūtani yantrarūḍhani mayaya [Bg 18.61].

We have been given a vehicle. Now we have got this nice vehicle, this human body, vehicle, moving. But if we don't utilize it as human being, then it..., we shall get another vehicle like dogs and hogs. Sometimes no movement, stand up for seven thousand years as a tree. Not as a tree; as tree. Yes. So this is going on.

So the first essential knowledge, to know that "I am not this body." We are working so hard... Body means the senses. The senses. Indriyani parany ahur indriyebhyaḥ param manaḥ, manasas tu para buddhiḥ [Bg 3.42]. So we have to transcend this bodily concept of life. Bodily concept of life means sense gratification. That's all.

The, the bodily... I am, because I'm thinking I am this body, therefore I must satisfy my eyes by seeing something beautiful. I must satisfy my tongue by eating so many things which are even forbidden in the sastras. But my tongue wants it, I must take it. So bodily concept of life means satisfying these gross material senses. That is bodily concept of life. But gradually, by Krsna consciousness, by training ourself how to become Krsna conscious, then our business will be how to satisfy Krsna.

Now we are satisfying our senses. That is bodily concept of material existence. And when we train ourself how to satisfy Krsna, oh, then that is our perfection of life. This is Krsna consciousness. The process is there. Either you satisfy your senses or you satisfy the proprietor of the senses. Krsna is called Hrsikesa. Hrsika. Hrsika means the senses. And Krsna is called Hrsikesa. Senayor ubhayor madhye ratham sthapaya me 'cyuta [Bg 1.21]. Hrsikesa. Tvaya hrsikena hrsikena. So Hrsikesa. So bhakti means hrsikena hrsikesa-sevanam bhaktir ucyate [Cc Madhya 19.170].

Now hrsika, indriya. Now, at the present moment, we are satisfying the senses for the sense only. We have no other higher objective. Sense wants to eat something palatable, although it is not good for me, either from health point of view, or spiritual point of view... Just like meating eat [sic] or drinking intoxication.

This is not good, either for health or for my spiritual advancement. But because my tongue wants it, I have become my servant of my tongue. I want should be satisfied. This is the material condition. Because I, I don't want to serve Krsna; I want to serve my tongue. Ta'ra madhye jihwa ati, lobhamoy sudurmati ta'ke jeta kathina samsare.

We have got different senses. Out of all the senses, this tongue is very strong. Tongue is very strong. Therefore sastra says, ataḥ sri-krsna-namadi na bhaved grahyam indriyaiḥ [Cc Madhya 17.136].

By these blunt senses, we cannot understand Krsna. We cannot understand what is Krsna, what is Krsna's name, what is Krsna's fame, what is Krsna's form, what is Krsna's quality. We cannot understand. Therefore Krsna says:

To understand Krsna is not so easy. So sastra says that it can be made easy. It can be made easy. How? Sevonmukhe hi jihvadau svayam eva sphuraty adaḥ [Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu 1.2.234]. If you simply engage your tongue in the service of the Lord. This one method. Simply engage your tongue in the service of the Lord, God will be revealed.

[aside:] Come on.

God will reveal Himself. You cannot see God. You cannot see Krsna. But when He reveals Himself... Just like at night you cannot see the sun. But when the sun reveals himself, it is not by your effort. In due course of time, sun will arise in the morning. You can see the sun, you can see yourself, you can see the whole world.

So try to reveal Krsna. Don't try to see Krsna. Because with your eyes, with your senses, these material blunt senses, we cannot see. It is not... Ataḥ sri-krsna-namadi...

[break] Ah, we're chanting Hare Krsna mantra, but we are not making progress because we have not come to the stage how to hear Krsna's name. But practice it. Practice it, that we shall come.

So this practice is recommended, sastra, that by the our these blunt senses it is very difficult to understand Krsna. Ataḥ sri-krsna-namadi na bhaved grahyam indriyaiḥ. Indriyaiḥ. This is our… Our property is the indriyaiḥ. Then how? Now, sevonmukhe hi jihvadau. Jihvadau, beginning from tongue.

This is a science. You try to understand. Everything begins by seeing or by touching, by tasting, like that. But here also the tasting. So sevonmukhe hi jihvadau: if you engage your tongue in the service of the Lord, the Lord will reveal Himself. Therefore we restrict our student, restrict our student to control the tongue: don't eat flesh, meat or fish; don't drink. This is controlling the tongue.

Bhaktivinoda Thakura said, ta'ra madhye jihva ati, lobhamoy sudurmati: the tongue is very fastidious, very greedy and very difficult to control it. Actually it is very difficult to control. I have no hunger, but still my tongue dictates, "Oh, yes! It is very nice. Why don't you take? Yes." You see? Three plates finished, and then next day, "Ah! Ah!" It is the dictation of the tongue. Therefore the tongue most formidable enemy.

Krsna is very kind. Just to control, just to help us to control over the tongue, krsna baḍo doyamay, karibare jihva jay, sva-prasad-anna dila bhai. So this process, if we simply decide that "I shall not eat anything which is not offered to Krsna, Krsna prasada..."

[aside:] Come on.

"...and I shall not talk anything which is not the subject matter of Krsna," then control tongue, as Ambarisa Maharaja did: vacamsi vaikuntha-gunanuvarnane [SB 9.4.18]. If I talk, I shall talk about Krsna only, that's, that's all; no more talking. Your tongue is [indistinct]. If you simply decide like this, that "I shall not talk anything which is not in the matter of Krsna, and I shall not eat anything which is not offered to Krsna," then you become controller of all senses, you become the first-class yogi. Yoga indriya-samyamaḥ. Yoga means to control the senses, and if you try to control the tongue by these two processes, you become the greatest yogi, sevonmukhe hi jihvadau.

But if I allow myself that "I am this body. Body means I am senses. Let me enjoy my senses," then I am lost. I, the spirit soul who is in this slumbering state, illusion, sometimes in daydream, sometimes in night dream, I am there. Because I am there, therefore I am seeing daydream and night dream.

Unless I am there, who is seeing this daydream and night dream? So I am there, but I am in the dreamland-sometimes seeing this dream, sometimes that. So in order to get me out of this dreamland, to come to this real life, you have to take Krsna consciousness, and to take to Krsna consciousness the simple method is try to control your tongue. Then everything is all right.

Thank you very much. Hare Krsna. [break]

Indian man (1): ...just as you said that there is a difference between human being and the animals, and animals cannot become conscious, Krsna consciousness. In Bhagavad-gita when this Gajendra, I mean to say, elephant got caught in the sea by that crocodile... Crocodile was made to [indistinct] attack that elephant. Elephant remembered the God, the Lord, and He came to save him. How is that [indistinct]?

Prabhupada: There is a history. Formerly they were human being…

Indian man (1): Now what is the correctness?

Prabhupada: Because formerly this elephant and the crocodiles were two brothers. They were human being. So sometimes, just like Bharata Maharaja, he became a deer, but he remembered himself. Generally people forget. Death means forgetting the past life. Past life.

But in special cases, just this elephant, or the Bharata Maharaja became a deer and he remembered his past life. Therefore he could remember God: "Please save me." That is special case. Generally... Why animal? Even human being. Do you remember your past life? That is special case. We are no more reliable. We do not know past life, even if ten years ago, what we were doing at this time. Forgotten. Everything is forgotten, even in this life.

So forgetfulness is our nature, but in special cases, somebody remembers. That is special cases. Generally.. Why animal? Even human being, they forget. At night we are forgetting. We experiment. At night I am dreaming, I am forgetting that I am Mr. Such-and-such and so on. I forget everything. Why do you call the next life? In this life, daily, at night I am forgetting, and at daytime also I am forgetting. So forgetfulness is my nature. That is expressed. But in special cases we remember.

Just like Bharata Maharaja, Bharata Maharaja under whose name this land, this planet is called Bharata-varsa; that king. He was very elevated king. So he left his home at young age to undergo austerities for liberation, but it so happened that one day a pregnant deer was drinking water in the river, and she heard the roaring of a lion and she gave birth to a small calf and fell down. So naturally the human being, he became a little compassionate, picked up that small calf and tried to raise him. So he became growing, and the Bharata Maharaja became a little affected.

So one day the deer did not come back in the evening, so he was little anxious, so he went to find out the deer, and consciously or unconsciously he fell down from the top of the hill and died. But because he was thinking of the deer at that time, in next time he became a deer. Yam yam vapi smaran lokam tyajaty ante kalevaram [Bg 8.6].

But because he was spiritually very much advanced, he could remember that he was Bharata Maharaja: "Now I have taken the form of a deer"; therefore he was keeping himself always among the sages and saintly person. He was eating the flowers and the all the leaves and flowers thrown by the sages. Whatever they were giving, eating. In this way, next life he took birth in the family of a brahmana. At that time, because he was remembering, he became completely stopped: no more talking, no more preaching.

So this is the process going on. This is the process... This is a great science. But foolish people, they do not know this science, how transmigration of the soul is taking place, how one great man is becoming a small animal. These things are unknown. So Krsna consciousness movement is meant for enlightening people this science, the science of the soul, atma-tattvam.

Grhesu grha-medhinam. Apasyatam atma-tattvam grhesu grha-medhinam. Srotavyadini rajendra nrnam santi sahasrasaḥ [SB 2.1.2]. Just like you have come here to hear, so hearing is the only process to understand, hearing and chanting. But those who are foolish, they have got many other hearing.

Now in many places meeting is going on, lecture is going on, how to conquer material nature and how to become stronger than Russia or... So many lectures are going on all over the world, and hundreds and thousands of people are hearing. Hearing. You take information. Even in Bombay you'll find that there are so many conference, committee meetings are going on, and they are engaged in hearing. Eh? Some like the newspapers are giving dictation, the news editor is giving the stereotype, he is taking hearing. So hearing is going on. Hearing is going on.

Therefore sastra says, srotavyadini rajendra nrnam santi sahasrasaḥ: there are thousands types of subject matter for hearing there are. Thousand types, sahasrasaḥ, not one type. So... But who are they? Now, apasyatam atma-tattvam. Who is not interested about his self, they are hearing so many subject matter, apasyatam atma-tattvam grhesu grha-medhinam, compact in household life, grha-medhinam.

This is going on. And this hearing process has to be transferred, sravanam kirtanam visnoḥ [SB 7.5.23]. This [indistinct], but you have to change the hearing process. Instead of hearing so many rubbish things and spoil your life, just try to hear about Krsna, krsna-katha, the words of Krsna, the instruction of Krsna. Then your life will be successful. [indistinct] The hearing is going on. You cannot stop hearing, but we are hearing the rubbish… [break] [end]