So the Mayavadi philosophers, they prefer sayujya, to merge into the existence of impersonal existence. A living entity can live, can remain in the Brahman effulgence as a particle of shining. Just like there are many molecular particles in the sunshine, similarly, the living entities also can cluster together and live as a small particle of spiritual shining, and that is called brahma-sayujya-mukti. But that kind of existence is subjected to fall down again.

Kim artham dharma-palasya. Dharma-pala. Yamaraja's another name is Dharmaraja or Dharmapala. He is one of the authorities. There are twelve authorities mentioned in the sastras. Brahma is one authority, Lord Siva is one authority, and Narada is one authority. Then Manu is one authority, Prahlada Maharaja is authority, Bali Maharaja is authority, Sukadeva Gosvami is authority. So similarly, Yamaraja is also authority. They are authority who know exactly what is God, or Krsna, and they can direct. Therefore sastra says you have to follow the authority. Otherwise it is not possible. Dharmasya tattvam nihitam guhayam mahajano yena gatah sa panthah [Cc. Madhya 17.186]. You cannot understand the path of religion by your mental speculation. Dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam [SB 6.3.19]. Dharma, religious principles are enacted by the Supreme Personality of Godhead. No ordinary man can enact dharma. Therefore there is dharma-viparya. Real dharma, actual dharma, is to abide by the words of the Supreme Lord. That is dharma. Just like Krsna says, mam ekam saranam. That is dharma, simply to surrender unto Krsna. Otherwise it is not dharma. Man-made dharma is no dharma. That is called kaitava-dharma, cheating dharma. You cannot manufacture religion. But nowadays it has become fashion. Everyone is manufacturing his own religion. Therefore there is dharma-viparya. So one should know that dharma means the laws given by God. That is dharma. And such dharma, or the path of dharma, is strictly followed by these mahajanas. Just like Brahma, Lord Siva, Narada, Manu, Kapila, Kapiladeva, Kapiladeva who enunciated sankhya philosophy... Svayambhur naradah sambhuh kumarah kapilo manuh, prahlado bhismah [SB 6.3.20]. Bhismadeva is also authority. You know Bhismadeva, the grandfather of the Pandavas. He is also authority. Prahlada, Bhisma... Bali Maharaja is also authority. So we have to follow these authorities. Otherwise there is no possibility of understanding what is religion, what is God. This... Our, this sampradaya, Madhva-Gaudiya sampradaya, they are following the authorities of Lord Brahma and Narada. Similarly, there is another sampradaya, Rudra-sampradaya. Rudra-sampradaya. And there is another sampradaya coming from Laksmiji, Sri-sampradaya, Ramanuja. So we have to accept religious principles from the leaders of the sampradayas. Otherwise it is useless. Sampradaya-vihina ye mantras te viphala matah: "If you do not accept mantra initiation from the disciplic succession of the sampradaya, then it will be useless." Sampradaya-vihina ye. So people are manufacturing religion without any reference to these authorities.

So diso vitimiralokah kurvantah svena tejasa. Svena: "By your own effulgence you are dissipating the darkness, all directions. You are so bright, brilliant." Kim artham dharma-palasya: "Oh, we can understand that you are not ordinary living entities. You are coming from some exalted planet. What business you have got to interfere with our business?" Dharma-palasya.

Now, Sridhara Swami is commenting why they were smiling, these Visnudutas, because the Yamadutas were criticizing, "Why you are interfering?" The Yamadutas did not know that whatever action is taken by the representative of Visnu, they are not, I mean to say, unnecessarily interference. They are actual fact. Therefore they are smiling, that "These Yamadutas, without knowing our position, they are trying to criticize us." So they were smiling. Prahasya, prahasya. Just like if a child speaks something to a learned man, he smiles. So Visnuduta were smiling, hearing the Yamadutas. Meghasya eva nirhrada hanir yasya prayatah:(?) "They began to speak in grave voice, as if the thundering cloud."

Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu said that yei krsna tattva-vetta sei guru haya: [Cc. Madhya 8.128] "If anyone is representing as guru, he must know Krsna." He must know. Krsna cannot be known, but at least... Just like Krsna says, yo janati tattvatah, that... One must know Krsna in fact, tattvatah, in truth. He can become guru. Otherwise, guru is not a, so cheap post that everyone can become guru. Similarly, here is the challenge, that "If you are representative of Dharmaraja, you must explain what is dharma and what is adharma." That should be the criterion of test. Not that everyone should be accepted as religious, everyone should be accepted as guru. This ignorance of the population has created so many nonsense as representing as guru and dharma-jna. No. Tasmad gurum prapadyeta [SB 11.3.21]. The Vedic injunction says, tasmad gurum prapadyeta jijnasuh sreya uttamam, sabde pare ca nisnatam. One is advised... First of all, who will accept a guru? Guru is not a plaything, that "I must have a guru, and I will never care to obey his orders, but because it is a fashion to keep a guru, I shall keep a guru." That kind of guru is useless, and that kind of disciple is also useless. One must seek after a guruwhen? When he is inquisitive to understand the transcendental knowledge. Jijnasuh sreya uttamam. It is not a fashion. It should be very serious. One who is very much eager to understand transcendental knowledge, sreya uttamam... Jijnasuh sreya. Sreyah and preyah. There are two kinds of paths. Preyah means immediate satisfaction or sense gratification, and preyah means spiritual happiness, er, sreyah. Sreyah means spiritual happiness. Just like children, they are interested with playing. That is preyah. Whereas, the elderly persons, they are interested to give education.

So people... What is the meaning of this preaching? Why we are taking interest in preaching Krsna consciousness? Because the people in general, they are interested in preyah, for their sense gratification, immediate sense gratification. But that is not good for them. Bhagavata says, nunam pramattah kurute vikarma yad indriya-pritaya aprnoti: [SB 5.5.4] "Simply for sense gratification, they are committing so many sinful activities. It is like, just like madman." A madman does not know what he is doing. Similarly, the materialistic persons, they are so much engrossed and become maddened to commit everything simply for sense gratification. Indriya-priti. So Rsabhadeva says, "It is not good. It is very risky life." If we indulge in sense gratification, Krsna will give us facilities for sense gratification. Just like a monkey. A monkey has very good facility for sex life. A monkey, every monkey has got at least three dozen wives. Perhaps you know it. So he has been given the facility for sense gratification: "All right." But what is his position? He is a monkey. (laughter) Therefore it is called markata-vairagya. Markata-vairagya means that a monkey is renounced. He does not dress, naked. And he lives in the forest. And he eats also fruit, vegetarian. But the nature is that he must have at least three dozen wives. You see? So the so-called sadhus or so-called vairagis, having illicit sex life very secretly, they are just like monkeys. So Rupa Gosvami has said markata-vairagya. Markata-vairagya.

So markata-vairagya is not necessary. Real vairagya. We do not indulge in so-called sannyasi or brahmacari. If one is unable, he must become a grhastha, live like a grhastha, and not that "I pose myself as a brahmacari or a sannyasi, but I have got illicit sex life secretly." This is markata-vairagya. Markata-vairagya is not wanted. Real vairagya. Real vairagya means one who can sacrifice everything for Krsna. That is vairagya. Karma-phala-tyagathat is karma-yoga. One should give up the result of his fruitive activities to Krsna. That is karma-yoga. Anasritah karma-phalam karyam karma karoti yah [Bg. 6.1]. Anasritah karma-phalam. One who is not desirous to enjoy the fruits of his activities, fruitive activities, anasritah karma-phalam, but does it as a matter of duty... "Krsna wants it. Krsna will be satisfied by doing this." Karyam: "It must be done." Just like Arjuna. Arjuna, for his personal interest, he was not willing to fight. But when he understood that "Krsna wants this fighting," then he took it as karyam: "It must be done. It doesn't matter whether I like it or not, but Krsna wants it. Therefore I must do it." That is called anasritah karma-phalam karyam karma karoti yah, sa sannyasi. He is sannyasi. Na niragnir na cakriyah. Niragnir and akriya. Akriya means they are freed, all kinds of fruitive activities. So they are not sannyasis, they are not yogis, but a yogi is he who gives away the result of his activities to Krsna. Anasritah karma-phalam karyam karma karoti yah.

So he is asking... Visnuduta uvaca, yuyam vai dharma-rajasya yadi nirdesa-karinah. It is a challenge: "So you are claiming that you are representative of Dharmaraja. So we want to know from you what is dharma." Just like yesterday some gentleman came. He said that he has performed yoga, and he has become Narayana. Was not? Was not he speaking?

So kingdom of God means purity. So if there is slight impurity, he will not be allowed: "Keep aside." And it is stated in the Bhagavad-gita, yesam anta-gatam papam. Yesam: "Persons who are completely being freed from the contamination of sinful activities," yesam anta-gatam papam jananam punya-karmanam, "simply engaged in pious activities, they can become a devotee." Te dvandva-moha-nirmukta bhajante mam drdha-vratah [Bg. 7.28]. These are clear statements. And the pillars of sinful activities, that is also mentioned in the Bhagavata. Striya-suna-pana-dyuta yatra papas catur-vidhah: [SB 1.17.38] "Four kinds of sinful activities: illicit sex, and intoxication, and unnecessarily killing of animals, and gambling." All the slaughterhouses of the world are being maintained unnecessarily. That is recruiting simply sins. They are eating sins, and therefore the world is in trouble. Simply committing. There is no necessity of killing animals. But here in India they are killing ten thousand cows daily, what to speak of Western countries. So people are so much addicted to sinful activities. How they can be happy? They are condemned. Only this movement, Krsna consciousness, if they take to this movement, they can be saved. Otherwise, there is no saving. They must cycle round the 8,400,000 species of life, sometimes very happy and sometimes very sad, sometimes this Brahma, sometimes the germs in the stool. This is going on, changing bodies, one after another, just like we change our dress. This will go on so long one is not completely freed from the sinful activities. Unless he enters into the kingdom of God, this cycle of birth and death will go on. Only in the spiritual sky there is no birth, death, old age, and disease. And as soon as you are out of the spiritual sky, these four things will... You may live for thousands of years. That doesn't matter, but you have to die. That is the law of material nature. You may have very good medicine, drug shop, as you have got in your country, but still, you have to suffer from diseases. You may have thousands of methods of contraceptives, but the population will increase. And as soon as there is death, and as soon as this body, the janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi... [Bg. 13.9].

In the Bhagavad-gita everything is clearly stated, that any intelligent person will put forward before him that "We have solved all our miserable conditions of life, but not these four principles." That is not possible. Janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi: "The sufferings of birth, the sufferings of death, the sufferings of old age, and the sufferings of disease." That cannot be solved. That can only be solved if you become Krsna conscious and go back to home, back to Godhead. That's all. Otherwise it is not possible. You may be a very great yogi. You may be very great meditator. All these things, they are very nice. They can elevate you from higher standard of life. Just like your country, USA, you have got higher standard of life than India, in one sense. But you can have thousand thousands more higher standard of life in higher planets. Thousand thousand times. As there is comparison between India and USA, or any country, similarly, in planetary system also, there is comparison. This planet is so much full of material pleasures, another planet so much, so much. But in no planet there is the guarantee that there will be no death. That is not possible. That is stated in the Bhagavad..., a-brahma-bhuvanal-lokan punar avartino 'rjuna. Even if you go to the Brahmaloka where one twelve hours means thousands of four yugas, still, there is death. So you cannot avoid this. So one who is serious... So we shall begin. What is this name of this magazine? Asia?

So there are two classes of men in this material world, not in the spiritual world. The spiritual world is one. They are all cognizant that "We are eternally servant of God." Nityo nityanam cetanas cetananam (Katha Upanisad 2.2.13). There are plural number living entities; they are all being provided with one cetana, the supreme cetana. So these two classes of men are known... One is known as demigods or servant of God. And another is called a servant of maya. Both of them are servants. Nobody is master. That is not possible. Only one master is God, or Krsna. That is stated in the Caitanya-caritamrta, ekale isvara krsna: [Cc. Adi 5.142] "Only isvara, or the controller, or the master, is Krsna." Ara saba bhrtya: "And any other, either demigods or ordinary [break] living entities(?), they are all servants." Yare yaiche nacaya se taiche kare nrtya: "Now, under the direction of the Supreme Lord, everyone is dancing or working." In the common word we say that "We are dancing dogs." Because under the direction of the master... The master says "You please dance," the dog will dance. So master, because the dog knows that "He is my master. If I don't dance, then I will starve." So actually that is the position. Nobody is master here. But when you falsely claim that "I am master," that is maya. Everyone is serving, but under the impression that he is master. The head of the family, he is thinking that "I am the master," but actually he is serving each and every member of the family. The state executive officeryou may call a king or a presidenthe is thinking that "I am king," "I am president," but actually he is serving. That is his position. Unless he serves properly, immediately he will be dethroned or next time he will not be elected. So that is our position. We are all serving. Ekale isvara krsna ara saba bhrtya [Cc. Adi 5.142]. This is a fact. Only master is Krsna, and everyone is

servant. Who can challenge this statement? Is there anyone within this hall, that "I don't serve anyone"? Is there anyone? And somebody is claiming that "I am God." Just see. This is called illusion, maya. This claim is made by the illusioned living entity. Here, this material world means everyone is trying to become the master. And there is competition between one master to another. Because nobody is master, that competition, that "I shall become master," that is illusion. So in this illusory fighting and competition, when one fails, that "I could not become the master..."

For example, in our country we respected Mahatma Gandhi as the father of the nation or the master of the nation. But actually, he was servant. As soon as there was little discrepancy, immediately he was put to death. Immediately. Similarly, in USA also, President Kennedy, he was very popular president, but as soon as there was little discrepancy, he was also killed. So this position we must know, that nobody is master here; everyone is servant. But the real position is to become the servant of God. That he is, but because... Just like a criminal. He thinks that "I don't care for any law." But he is forced to obey the laws in the prison house. Outside or inside, he has to obey the laws of the government, but under illusion he thinks that "I don't care for the government." Similarly, those who are rascals, they think that "There is no God. I am God. I don't care for anyone." That is another class, demonic class. And those who obey the laws of God, they are called demigods. Dvau bhuta-sargau loke daiva asura eva ca [Bg. 16.6].

There are two classes of men in this world. One is called daiva, and the other is called asura. Asura means rebelled against God: "Don't care for God. I am God. You are God. Everyone is God. Why you are searching after God? There are so many Gods in the streets, lying on the footpath, daridra-narayana. You serve these Gods." You see? This is illusion. Daridra-narayana, starving God. So many subscription are raised in America in the name of serving these daridra-narayanas in India. Now these Americans are questioning that "You take money for serving the daridra-narayana. Why we see...? When we go to India, why we see so many daridra-narayanas are lying on the footpath?" These questions are being made. One of the big Ramakrishna Mission swamis, Swami Nikhilananda, he told me. It is not my manufactured story. Actually, people are claiming welfare society, welfare activities. But what welfare they are doing actually? The welfare activities are increasing, and the candidates for receiving the welfare, they are increasing. You are trying to serve the daridra-narayana, but actually the number of daridra-narayanas are increasing daily. So that is the position. Here, practically, Narayana cannot be daridra. That is another illusion. Narayana is the husband of the goddess of fortune, Laksmi. How He can be daridra? It is also manufactured word. Laksmi-sahasra-sata-sambhrama-sevyamanam govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami [Bs. 5.29]. Here we keep one Laksmi, but as soon as there is any little discrepancy, the Laksmi immediately becomes angry and there is divorce. Practically there is no respect from the side of Laksmi to the so-called daridra-narayana. But there, thousands and thousands of Laksmis are very respectfully serving the Lord. You'll read in the story of Rukmini, the prime Laksmi of Lord Krsna. One day Krsna was a little joking, and she took it very seriously, and she immediately fainted. So much respect. "Oh, Krsna might be thinking of leaving me." So she fainted immediately. So much sambhrama. Laksmi-sahasra-sata-sambhrama-sevyamanam [Bs. 5.29]. These are the statements of scripture. And when Krsna was actually present on the planet, He showed it, how much He is respectfully served by His sixteen thousand wives, and how much comfortably He kept all of them in different palaces, and expanding Himself into sixteen thousand forms. That is God. That is God. So everyone, even the Laksmi is servant, maidservant of Krsna, what to speak of others? Dasi. So how one can claim that "I am God"? God is not so cheap. Only persons who are illusioned, they claim that "I am God." He is servant. Instead of becoming, voluntarily rendering service to God, because they claim to be God they are more put into illusion. Maya-grasta jivera sei dasa upajaya. It is said in the Vaisnava literature, pisaci paile yena mati-cchanna haya, maya-grasta jivera sei dasa upajaya: "Just like a person, when he is haunted by ghosts, he speaks all kinds of nonsense, similarly, when a living entity is engrossed by the illusory aspect of this material nature, he also talks all foolishly." He also talks... One of the greatest foolish things is that he claims that "I am God."

So God is not so cheap. Therefore there are two classes of men: asura and devata. You have heard that there is always fight between asuras and devatas because asuras are always against God, and devatas, they are servant of God. That is the difference. Even at home there are, there was asura and devata. The father was an asura, and the son was a devata, Prahlada Maharaja. And the father became enemy of the son. Naturally, father is always affectionate. But because he was asura, he became against his beloved son. That is the nature of the asura. Even asuras... Just like tiger also has got affection for the cub, so this Hiranyakasipu was affectionate because Prahlada Maharaja was very nice boy, five years old, very good looking. Natural affection. He was youngest. And one day he asked the son, "My dear boy, what you have learned the best thing? Tell me." Just like father asks sometimes. So he described that "One should sacrifice everything for realizing God." Tat sadhu manye 'sura-varya dehinam, asad-grahat... I forget that sloka now, that Prahlada Maharaja said that "That is the best way of life in the human form of life, to utilize this opportunity for realizing God." That was his version. And the father became very angry. And from that day, father, the father taught, instructed the teachers, that "How is that you are teaching all this nonsense to my boy?" They replied, "Sir, we do not teach. This boy is naturally God-inclined. What can I do? As soon as he gets opportunity, he begins to preach God consciousness in the class." When the teacher is absent, immediately Prahlada Maharaja stands up on the bench and he addresses the friends, "My dear boys, this is the life for realizing God. You don't forget this." In this way he was lecturing. These are in the Bhagavata.

So the demigods means God-realized persons or servant of God. They have dedicated their life for the service of the Lord, whereas the asuras, they are always against such principles. So here also the same thing is happening. Yuyam vai dharma-rajasya yadi nirdesa-karinah. The Visnudutas challenged the Yamaduta that "If you are actually the servants of your master, Dharmaraja..." Yamaraja is Dharmaraja. Another name is Dharmaraja. He is also representative of God. Just like a magistrate, he also deals with the criminal cases, but magistrate is not bad. Magistrate is representative of the government. Similarly, Dharmaraja, although punishes all criminals or sinful persons, but he is a pure servant of God. Therefore his name is Dharmaraja. He is executing the order of the master. So therefore the Visnudutas challenged the Yamadutas that "If you are actually serving your master, Dharmaraja..." Just like a police constable is supposed to know the law, whom to arrest. If he arrests anyone and everyone, then he is a fool. He cannot arrest anyone and everyone. He cannot arrest a law-abiding man. Similarly, the Yamadutas, they also cannot take away to the court of the Yamaraja everyone and anyone. No. Only the nondevotees are taken. Those who are devotees, they are not taken. That is... You will find in the Bhagavata, Srimad-Bhagavatam, Yamaraja especially instructs that "Those who are Vaisnavas, you should not go there. You should offer your respect to them." Somebody asked me that "Swamiji, why these tulasi beads in your neck or your devotees' neck?" So I replied, "Just like a pet dog has got a collar, similarly we are pet dogs of God. We have got this collar. And Yamaraja will understand that 'He is God's dog. He should not be shot down.' " (laughter)

So actually that is the position. Anyone... There is a verse. There is a verse that "Don't go to the Vaisnavas." The Yamadutas were especially instructed. But this Ajamila was known, a sinful person. Everyone knew. But he had become, I mean to say, free from all sinful contamination because at the time of death, he uttered the word "Narayana" without any offense. The Yamadutas, they could not understand that he is no more under the laws of criminal punishment; he is free from all contamination. And actually, that is the position. Krsna... One who utters the name "Krsna," he immediately becomes free from all sinful activities, immediately. That is the power of Krsna's name. But the difficulty is that after being freed, we again commit mistake in sinful activity. Krsna's name has got the power. As soon as you utter the name "Hare Krsna," immediately you become freed from all contamination. Therefore if one thinks that "I am chanting Hare Krsna mantra, so even if I commit sinful activities, that will be counteracted by my chanting," that is another, greatest offense. That we have discussed many times, that on the strength of holy name of Lord, if one commits sinful activities, he is a greatest offender. Just like sometimes we find in Christian churches. They go on Sunday, and they confess, and they are supposed to be excused from the sinful reaction. But again, after coming back from the church, again commits the same sins with expectation that "Next week, when I shall go to the church, I shall confess, and it will be counteracted." This kind of, I mean to say, understanding is prohibited, this kind of understanding. One... Just like Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Caitanya Mahaprabhu accepted Jagai-Madhai. They were very sinful. What is their sin? The illicit sex, woman-hunter, drunkard, meat-eaters. That's it. That is sinful activities according to Vedic scripture. So they became debauchees and gundas, a disturbing element. But Caitanya Mahaprabhu delivered them. Caitanya Mahaprabhu delivered them on one condition. What is that condition? When they fell down on the lotus feet of Lord Caitanya and Nityananda, "Sirs, we are so much sinful. Kindly deliver us"there is a long history, incidence; I will tell you some dayCaitanya Mahaprabhu made one condition, that "I can accept you only on your promise that you shall no more commit sinful activities. What you have done, that is all right. I will excuse. But if you commit again, that will be greatest offense." So they said, ara nare baba. Ara nare: "No more, sir. This is the end of our sinful activities. No more we shall do it."

So our Krsna consciousness movement, following the footsteps of Lord Caitanya, we are also following the same principles under the authority of Lord Caitanya. When we accept somebody in our society as initiated member we put forward this obligation, restriction, that "No more illicit sex life, no more gambling, no more intoxication and no more animal food." That is necessary. If you accept spiritual life, at the same time go on committing sinful activities, then you will never be able to progress. That is not possible. Because in the Bhagavad-gita it is clearly said by Krsna, yesam anta-gatam papam jananam punya-karmanam: "Persons who are completely freed from all contamination of sinful activities and simply engaged in pious activity, they only are admitted in devotional service." So if you are actually serious about entering into the kingdom of God, Vaikuntha, then you should be very much careful about these four principles of restriction. No illicit... You cannot have any sex life without being married. That is sinful activity. You cannot indulge in intoxication. You cannot eat anything which is beyond the jurisdiction of your food. For you, for a human being, the food is, I mean to say, given there, quota, that "You can eat grains. You can eat fruits. You can eat flowers, vegetables. You can eat milk." That is sattvikahara, foodstuff prepared from vegetables, fruits, grains, sugar, and milk products. That's all. That is sattvika. That is allotted for the human being. You cannot imitate the cats and dogs: "Because they are eating meat, I also meat... Meat also is my food." They put forward, "Everything is food." So why don't you eat stool? That is also foodfor the hog. So we must have discrimination, that what sort of food we shall take. Not that like hogs, anything will be accepted. That is humanity. So in this way, actually if we enter, if we want to enter into spiritual life, then these four principles of restriction must be observed. [break]

...And those who do not believe in God and act according to whims, such persons are called asuras. In the Bhagavad-gita you will find, na mam duskrtino mudha prapadyante naradhamah [Bg. 7.15]. It is clearly stated, mayaya apahrta-jnana asuri-bhavam asritah. This very word is very important: asuri-bhavam asritah. They have... Because they have taken to the shelter of asuri-bhava, atheistic philosophy, in spite of advancement of education, they are naradhama, lowest of the mankind. These words are exactly there. Naradhama. You cannot say, "How you can say this gentleman asura? He is so much educated, highly qualified, university degree." The answer is there, mayaya apahrta-jnana: "Yes, it appears that he is very learned, but his actual knowledge is taken away by the maya on account of his being atheistic." And such atheistic person, bewildered by maya and being lowest of the mankind, they cannot surrender unto God. Na mam duskrtino mudha prapadyante naradhamah [Bg. 7.15]. So these things may not be very palatable, but these things are there in scriptures. We have to preach the scriptural injunction. Therefore we say, "Bhagavad-gita as it is." You cannot play hide and seek with the problem of life. You must know your real position, and you must...

Therefore here it is asked that bruta dharmasya nas tattvam. So dharma and adharma. There are two kinds of activities, dharma... Dharma means one who is acting according to the order of God. That is dharma. And one who is not acting according to the order, that is adharma. Therefore the challenge was there: "If you are actually representative of Dharmaraja, you must know what is dharma and what is adharma. You explain." That means they are also not aware what was the actual position of Ajamila. They did not know that although throughout his whole life he was sinful, but because at the time of his death he simply remembered Narayana... But that is also difficult. We may not think that "Let me now go on committing all sinful activities. At the time of death I shall remember Narayana or Krsna." That is not possible. It is only possible for persons who had some intimate relationship with Narayana. This Ajamila had very intimate relationship with Narayana. When he was boy, when he was being trained up by his father, he was very faithful to Narayana, to his father. Up to twenty years, he served very nicely Narayana. Therefore he had the effect of remembering Narayana at the time of death. Therefore in the Bhagavad-gita it is said, svalpam api asya dharmasya trayate mahato bhayat. If even slight of this Narayana-dharma is practiced, it can save you from the greatest danger. So why not take to this Narayana consciousness or Krsna consciousness always, twenty-four hours? Then there is no question of danger. Narayana-parah sarve na kutascana bibhyati [SB 6.17.28]. One who has become narayana-para, he is not afraid of anything. Na kutascana bibhyati. Why he should be afraid? He knows, "There is Narayana; there is Krsna. Why shall I be afraid?"

So, it is past six.