You will find in Caitanya-caritamrta, it is quoted from Srimad-Bhagavatam that one sometimes... It is called lila, pastimes, that Brahma, when Krsna was here on this planet, so Brahma was very much proud that "Krsna is now in the earthly planet, and this earthly planet is one of the innumerable planets under my control." Brahma is the controller, is the primal, principal living entity in this universe, so he was little proud that "Krsna is within my control." So therefore Krsna, because He is Paramatma, He knows everything, what one thinks, what one does. So Krsna asked Brahma to come and see Him. So Brahma came. Brahma came. His doorman informed Krsna that... Doorman asked Brahma, "Who are you, please?" "Now, you say Krsna that I am Brahma. I have come to see Him." So when the doorman informed Krsna that in Dvaraka, when Krsna was there as king, so Krsna asked, "Oh, which Brahma? Which Brahma?" The doorman came back again and informed that "Which Brahma you are?" So Brahma became astonished: " 'Which Brahma?' I am the Brahma. I am the supreme creature within this universe, and 'Which Brahma?' " He was surprised, and he said, "Tell Krsna that four-headed Brahma." Brahma has four heads. So Krsna called him, "All right, come on." So he came, and he offered his obeisances, and Brahma asked Him, "Krsna, my Lord, may I ask You some question?" "What is that?" "Your doorman asked me, 'Which Brahma?' So does it mean there are other Brahmas also?" Krsna said, "Yes, there are innumerable Brahmas. You are only four-headed. There are eight-headed, there are sixteen-headed, thirty-headed, sixty-four-headed, hundred-twenty-eight-headed, and millions of headed. So all right, I am calling them all." So Krsna called all the Brahmas, and by His maya, Brahma could see them, but they could not see this four-headed Brahma, and each of them came and offered obeisances to Krsna, and they asked, "My Lord, what can I do for You? You have asked me?" "Yes. I have not seen you for so many times, so many days, so I have called you." So they came, thousands and millions of Brahmas came, and offered obeisances, and they went away. And this Brahma, four-headed Brahma, remained in the corner, "Oh, what is I am?" So this is Krsna's creation.

So here it is stated that yasyaika-nisvasita-kalam athavalambya [Bs. 5.48]. "Only just abiding by the breathing period of Maha-Visnu"there are millions of Brahmas"they are living." And each Brahma's period... That you have read in the Bhagavad-gita: sahasra-yuga-paryantam arhad yad brahmano viduh [Bg. 8.17]. The Brahma's one day means 4,300,000's times 1000. That is Brahma's twelve hours. Similarly, twenty-four hours, one day. Now calculate one month, such one years, such hundred years. So that hundred years of Brahma is only a breathing period of Maha-Visnu, just like we are breathing, our inhalation and exhalation is going on. So during the breathing period, when the breathing is out, all these brahmandas become created, and when it is inhaled, all, they are closed, account closed. So this is going on. And such Maha-Visnu is the part, one of the fourth part of Krsna's expansion. That is stated. Lord Caitanya is giving evidence from Brahma-samhita:

Several times just I have explained this thing, but this material, spiritual, or the qualitative differences, that is for us, not for Krsna. How it is? Just like government has got different departments. There is criminal department, civil department, and this department, that department, so many departments. Now, for us the criminal department may not be so pleasing or civil department may be very much pleasing, but for the government both the departments are equal because they have to maintain equally, either criminal department or the civil department. The government has no distinction that "This is criminal department; therefore this department should be neglected," or "It is inferior." No. Rather, in criminal department the government may spend more than civil department. Similarly, these distinctions, these qualitative distinctions, matter, spirit, and the different kinds of modes, they are distinction for us, not for Krsna. He is Absolute. He is Absolute. To the Absolute, there is no such distinction. Therefore when Krsna comes, when Krsna comes in this material, He is not affected by this. Suppose the minister, the secretary of the president, goes to the criminal department to see the prison house. He is not affected by the prison rules. It is simple to understand. If the prisoner thinks, "Oh, he is also one of the prisoners because he has come here," this is nonsense. He is not prisoner. Similarly, when Krsna comes in this material world, if a foolish man thinks that he is also one of us, he is foolish number one. Therefore in the Bhagavad-gita it is stated, avajananti mam mudha manusim tanum asritah: [Bg. 9.11] "Foolish persons, they think that I am one of them." These examples are very nice. We can understand.

So here it is stated that Visnu...,

So gatagatam kama-kama labhante. So the conditioned souls, they are not coming to the sense that what is their position. This position, by the grace of some special representative of the Supreme Lord or by the Supreme Lord, is offered to these conditioned souls, that "This is not your place. You are part and parcel of God. Your place is in the kingdom of God. Your place is there. You are..." Manah-sasthanindriyani prakrti-sthani karsati: [Bg. 15.7] "You are struggling very hard within this material nature. Just try to understand your position." So these things are described in scriptures, in the Vedas, so that these foolish conditioned souls may come to their senses and try to become Krsna conscious and make their life successful so that they can go back to home, back to Godhead.

Thank you very much. Any question? (end)