Exactly... Knowledge of sunshine is not perfect knowledge of sun. That you can understand very easily. Suppose daily you are having sunshine within your room. Does it mean you know what is sun disc or what is the inhabitants of the sun globe? No. Nobody knows. Similarly, impersonal knowledge of the Absolute Truth is like that. That is not complete knowledge. Although it is light, sunshine is also light, sun disc is also light and the inhabitants there, they also must be light. Otherwise, how can they live? They also must be fiery. Because the inhabitants there, they are also fiery, without being fire how you can live in fire? Sun is fire; everyone knows it. The temperature is very high. So one, without having a body suitable to that temperature, how they can live there? But there are living entities. That we have got. Because you cannot live in the water, that does not mean there is no living entity in the water. This is nonsense. So if we similarly conclude, "Because we cannot live in the fire, therefore there is no living entity in the fire," that is nonsense. The exact knowledge is at least to accept this reasoning, that I cannot live in the water, but if you count the number of living entities within the water, oh, it is far more than living entities on the land, because the water is three-fourths of the globe. So how many living entities can live on the one-fourth? Naturally the number of living entities is far greater. But if you conclude, "Oh, I cannot... If I put into the water I shall die, so there is no living entity within the water," this is nonsense. You don't compare with your situation with others.

That is the mistake of civilization. We think everything in our own standard. Atmavat manyate jagat. That is the nature, that atmavat, what he is thinking of himself, therefore, others must be like that. No. Others may be different from you. So, similarly, you will find so many differences in so many planets. Their habits, their mode of living, civilization, standard of living is completely different. Even in this planet, if we find, the standard of living in America is different from the standard of living in South America or Africa or India, so why not in other planets?

So everything... In the Brahma-samhita, we understand, every planet has a different situation, not that everything of this nature. So it is... It is not complete idea. "Because you can know what is sunshine, therefore you can know what is sun-god or sun disc"no, that can (not) be done. Similarly, because you have some spiritual light, impersonal light... What is that impersonal light? The whole Buddha philosophy, impersonal philosophy, is looking to that impersonal. What is that? That "Because here in this material world I have got bad experience of this personal existence, therefore I conclude that there must be something impersonal. That is nice." That is thinking in the opposite way. But that is not actual fact. Just like a diseased person. Lying in one side, he is getting pain. He thinks, "If I lie down on the other side I will be relieved." That he is thinking, but so long he is diseased, there is no question of relief. He is thinking like that, this way or that way. Just like in the materialistic way they are... Their last point of happiness is sex life. That's all. So they have enjoyed sex life in this way; now they are trying to enjoy sex life in that way. But the enjoyment is the same. There is no more enjoyment. That is finished. You can eschew in so many ways, but the result is the same. Similarly, unless you have got perfect knowledge of the Absolute Truth, if you think of the Absolute Truth as something opposite of your present status, that is not perfect knowledge. The impersonal knowledge is like that, something opposite of this material world. Go on.

So time, living entity, this material world, and the supreme controller, and activities. Every living entities are engaged in some activities. So you have to understand these five things which you are experiencing daily. So if you understand Krsna, these five things will be automatically understood, and you will understand everything. By understanding one, Krsna, you understand these five items. And by understanding these five items, you understand the whole thing. That's all. That means you have complete knowledge. So Bhagavad-gita explains like that. Kasmin vijnate sarvam vijnatam bhavati. Everything becomes known by understanding the Supreme. That is our program. Go on.

Here it is said, the exact word in Sanskrit is mayy asakta-manah partha yogam yunjan mad-asrayah. Mayy asakta: "If you simply become attached to Me," mayy asakta-manah... "Your mind should be so trained that you become attached to Me." This is yoga, because yoga means training the mind. To concentrate the mental focus on Visnu or Krsna, that is the yoga practice. The pressing of nose or making your head down and legs up, these are means to come to the point of samadhi, Krsna consciousness. But they are not yoga itself or end. They are means to the end. But here is the end. If you can concentrate your mind on Krsna, then you come to the ultimate point. Therefore Krsna said, "Simply by concentrating your mind on Me, you will understand Me perfectly. And as soon as you understand Me perfectly..." Of course, we cannot understand God perfectly. That is not possible. He is unlimited. We are not... Still, so far our capacity is concerned, if we can understand Krsna, then everything is known to us.

So according to his own nature... That is also explained, that everyone creates his God, religion, according to his own nature. There are three kinds of men: goodness, passion, and ignorance. So those who are in the modes of ignorance, they create their own religion of ignorance; those who are in the passion, they create a kind of religion of passion; and those who are in the modes of goodness, they create their own. But this system, Krsna consciousness, is transcendental. It is above ignorance, passion or goodness. Goodness is also material. A material good man does not mean he will be Krsna conscious. No. A man may be very pious, moralist, but that does not mean he will be able to become Krsna conscious. Krsna conscious person is above goodness. Yesam anta-gatam papam jananam punya-karmanam. But goodness is a qualification to get promoted on the platform of Krsna consciousness. But goodness is not a means to become Krsna consciousness. Krsna consciousness, to become Krsna conscious, the means is Krsna only. That's all, nothing else. To become Krsna conscious means we have to adopt the Krsna means, no other means. The Krsna means is being instructed in this chapter, that "How by practicing yoga in full consciousness of Me..." That is Krsna con... The means and the end, the same. If you want to come to the end of Krsna consciousness, then you have to become Krsna conscious.

The first stage is Krsna consciousness, and the last stage is also Krsna consciousness. The difference is one stage is immature, and the other stage is mature. When it is mature, then you taste it nicely. Just like mango. In the unripe stage it is mango, and the ripe stage, it is mango. But in the ripe stage you taste nicely. In the unripe stage the taste is different. But if you give time for ripening, then you will taste. So Krsna consciousness is the means of Krsna consciousness. No other means can be adopted for Krsna consciousness. We should know. Therefore it is being taught here that "How by practicing yoga in full consciousness of Me..." You have to think of Krsna always.

So therefore our process is how one can think of Krsna always. We have so many departments. The idea is how to think of Krsna. That's all. That is the yoga. Even in taking prasadam, you are thinking of Krsna, "Oh, it is very nice. Krsna has tasted. It is very nice." That is Krsna consciousness. That is yoga. Is there any yoga system in the world that you can become a yogi simply by eating? Is there any yoga system? Just try to understand. Is there any yoga system simply by digging earth for gardening one can become a yogi? Is there any yoga system? Here the boys, when they dig earth for planting rose flower for Krsna, he is thinking, "Oh, the flower will be nice. It will be offered to Krsna." There is immediately yoga. Just try to understand how nice it is. Whatever you do, if it is done for Krsna, then you are in the highest perfectional stage of yoga. And anyone can do it. If Mr. Darwin or Chandramukhi is asked, "All right, you also dig," oh, she will imitate and become yogi immediately. Immediately yogi. Just try to understand. Is there any process of yoga system which can teach even a small child to practice and become yogi? No. If you ask a child or even the father does, "You sit down like me. Meditate. Press your nose," or this, that, oh, she'll be not, cannot do. Unable. Is there any... If I say a child, "Oh, my dear girl, my dear boy, please do like this. Chant Hare Krsna," he immediately does. You see?

So this simple method and the highest method... Not that we are advertising our Krsna consciousness movement. Here the authority, the supreme authority, Krsna, says, "Practicing yoga in full consciousness of Me." But if you make your own manufactured meaning of these words and cheat public, that is your business. Our business is not to cheat. We have to say frankly, "This is the fact," that's all. But you can cheat: "Oh, it is not Krsna. It is this and that, so many things. This 'me' means I. 'I' means you are also I. I am also I." They explain in that way. "The 'me,' the word is me. So 'me' is coming from 'I.' So you are 'I,' I am 'I.' Therefore it is meant, 'me' means you think of yourself; I think of myself. Then you become yogi." That's all. And rascal persons will catch this very..., "Oh, then I am always thinking of me. That's all right. I am a yogi." That's all. Because the demons and the rascals, they are simply trying to avoid God. So if somebody teaches, "Oh, why you are thinking of Krsna? This 'me' means you, I, I, you. That's all," "Oh, that's nice, very nice."

The demonic nature is that. "I am God. I am everything." So we have to become very cautious, you see, because my material existence means I have got the tinge of demonic nature. And as soon as I get some impetus from another demon, I become again demon. Again I become demon. And then out of Krsna consciousness. Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu has distinctly forbidden: mayavadi-bhasya sunile haya sarva-nasa: [Cc. Madhya 6.169] "If you hear the commentary of the impersonalist demons, then your whole thing is spoiled. Your life is spoiled." Go on. Mayavadi-bhasya sunile haya sarva-nasa. Sarva-nasa means you lose everything. And because we do not explain demonic explanation, that "I am God, you are God," people do not like. Just like the other day the question was... They explained in different... They like that explanation because demonic. People are generally demonic, more or less. One may be fifty percent demon, another may be eighty percent demon, but everyone in this material world is a demon.

Materialistic means demon. Don't you see the example of Hiranyakasipu? What was his fault? He is called a demon. Why? What was his fault? His fault was to..., not to accept God. His small child was a devotee. He was thinking of God, and the father was angry: "Why you are thinking of God? Why you are thinking of Krsna?" Just see. But materially the father was so powerful that he conquered all over other planets. He was so powerful. So any materialistic person, if he has got more money, wealth, strength, he is worshiped. So this is demon worship. Demons are generally very powerful. They are so-called educated. They are so-called... So many things they have got. But the test is: if he has no Krsna consciousness or God consciousness, he is demon. That's all. That is the study of demon. Yes. Go on.

Here it is said, "Practicing yoga in full consciousness of Me, Krsna." So you have to hear of Krsna; you have to speak of Krsna. Then your yoga practice is nice. It clearly says, sravanam kirtanam visnoh [SB 7.5.23]. Not any other way. There are so many rascals, they say, "You can hear of any demigod, any man. That's all right." No. Any man, any demigod, is not Krsna. That is are misunderstanding. Kamais tais tair hrta-jnanah yajante anya-devatah [Bg. 7.20]. If any person goes to worship any other demigod, he is persuaded by lust. But those who are worshiper of Krsna, they are not persuaded by lust. They are persuaded by love. That is the difference. Therefore those who have got lust within their mind, they can worship many other demigods. But those who are freed from all lusty desires, simply wants to love Krsna, they can attain this sravanam kirtanam, chanting and hearing.

Sravanam, hearing. Then? Sravanam is the first important part. That is the... If one simply hears, simply by hearing sincerely, seriously, he becomes perfect. It is so nice. If simply people come here and simply hear Bhagavad-gita and try to understand it, he becomes perfect. But they will not come. As soon as they will hear, "Oh, Swamiji is preaching that I am not God. God is different," "Oh, don't come here." Finish. I have to flatter him that "You are God." Then he will come. His hearing is disturbed because there is no flattering words. But if he sticks to hearing only, he becomes perfect. But maya will not allow him to hear: "Oh, please vacate out. Don't come here." Even our students. They remain here for some time, go away. Maya dictates, "Oh, why you are spoiling your time?" But the process is very simple, hearing. But maya will not allow him to accept this simple process.

So one has to become very strong. Mam eva ye prapadyante mayam etam taranti te [Bg. 7.14]. One who determines, "Yes, I will hear of Krsna, nothing," then maya cannot do anything. Man has defeated. If simply one decides that "I simply hearing..., simply I will hear of Krsna and nothing more," then he defeats the maya, simply by determination, that's all. Yes. Next.

Therefore you have to seek person, from where you have to hear. Tad-vijnanartham sa gurum evabhigacchet [MU 1.2.12]. Therefore you have to select person, from where to hear. That is the... Either you search or by Krsna's grace you get a person who is authorized. Then your life is successful. Some way or other, you have to come. Just like Maharaja Pariksit. He was devotee of Krsna from the beginning of his life. Krsna sent him, Pariksit..., Sukadeva Gosvami. "Now Maharaja Pariksit is going to die within seven days. He is very anxious what to do. Please go there." Because Krsna is sitting within yourself. As soon as Krsna finds that you are very sincere, seeking Krsna, Krsna will immediately give you chance: "Here is chance. Here is chance."

So we have to utilize in that way. Sravanam kirtanam visnoh [SB 7.5.23]. "Hear from Me." Nobody... Either you hear from Krsna or from Krsna's representative. Just like Arjuna is hearing from Krsna, and you hear from Arjuna. Then you get the perfect instruction. If you say, "Where is Arjuna? Where is Krsna?" but Arjuna's words are there in the Bhagavad-gita, Krsna's words are there. So if you take the words as it is, then you hear Bhagavad-gita. If you change, then you don't hear Bhagavad-gita. You hear something nonsense. These are very simple things. So hearing is very important. So "Hear from Me." Nobody can be a great authority than Krsna. And therefore, by hearing from Him, one receives the greatest opportunity for progress in Krsna consciousness. You hear from Krsna as He is speaking. He says that "Practice yoga in full consciousness of Me." If you do that, then you hear Him. But if you do something nonsense, that is not hearing. That is not hearing. But they will do something nonsense which is not approved by Krsna or His representative. That is their disease. Yes.

So this is confirmed in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. Simply if one sticks to hearing, he may be a child, he may be a boy, he may be a woman or he may be some illiterate man, or anything, less intelligentit doesn't matter, simply if he hears. Srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah. And Krsna is there within your heart. As soon as Krsna sees, "Oh, this, this is very nice. He is hearing about Me," He will help you. He will cleanse your heart. [break] Because... Therefore to hear of krsna-kirtana is also another pious activity. So these boys, when they are going in the street chanting Hare Krsna, automatically they are giving chance to the people to become pious. Hearing is so important. They are becoming pious. They are purchasing one copy, Back to Godhead. They are nodding: "Yes, these boys are very nice." They are accumulating something spiritual. It is so nice. Srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah punya-sravana-kirtanah [SB 1.2.17]. Simply by hearing, chanting, it is pious activities.

So one who is engaged in this pious activity, hrdy antah-stho hy abhadrani... (child crying) That one who hears that... Krsna, understanding that this person is hearing, He cleanses. The chanting process we have many times discussed. It is the cleansing process. And as soon as the heart is cleansed, one can understand Krsna immediately. It is a cleansing process, this hearing process. Hrdy antah-stho hy abhadrani suhrt satam. He is friend... Krsna is friend of everyone, but He is a special friend of the devotees. Suhrt satam. Satam means devotee, and suhrt means friend. Krsna is friend. Just like the same example. Government is taking care of all citizens, but he is taking more care of the civil citizens than the criminal. The criminal citizens, they are also under the care of the government, but they are not taken so much care as the civil citizens. Similarly, God is taking care of everyonethat's a factmaybe he is sinful or not sinful. But He takes special care of the devotee. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita. Yes?

That's all. Thank you.

So body is not eternal, but actually every materialistic person is engaged in the bodily activities. He is acting as American. Why? Because his body is American. He is acting as Indian. Why? Because his body is Indian. He is acting as husband because his body is male. He is acting as wife because the body is female. You take all activitiesit is due to this body. But if the soul is eternal, then one should seek: "Then what is my eternal activities? The body is not eternal, therefore these activities also not eternal. Then what is my real activity, eternal activity?" That is Krsna consciousness, bhakti.

So this work is not eternal, but if you take to Krsna consciousness, Krsna conscious activity is eternal. Therefore there is no loss. Even if you cannot complete Krsna consciousness activitythat we have already discussed in the last chapterstill, you are not in loss. Whatever you do... Svalpam apy asya dharmasya trayate mahato bhayat. Even it is little done, you get some asset. That will never be lost. Therefore you have to stick to this activity, Krsna consciousness activity. Whatever you do, if we can complete, it is very nice. If not, whatever we do, that is not lost. That is eternal. (end)