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Prabhupada: That is his blessing. He wanted; I tried. That's all. Whatever is being done, it is by his desire. Vaisnava satya-saṅkalpa. [SB 8.16.22] Whatever he desires, that is to be fulfilled. Yasya deve para bhaktir yatha deve tatha gurau [Svetasvatara Upanisad 6.23]. Therefore, full faith in guru, that is the prime factor of success. Not any other things, no qualification, no education, only staunch faith in guru. Yasya deve para bhaktir yatha deve tatha gurau. Yasya prasadad bhagavat-prasadah. This is the secret. So whatever little success is there, that was only this qualification, that I wanted to serve him. That's all. Otherwise, there was no business of coming here at the age of seventy years.
Hrdayananda: No one could imagine that.
Hrdayananda: Radha-vallabha has one newspaper article when you had just arrived in, I think, Butler.
Radha-vallabha: Trivikrama brought it up last..., two nights ago.
Hrdayananda: When you had just arrived, I think before going to New York, and you were being interviewed, and it said the Swami is welcoming lectures, and... What was it?
Hrdayananda: It was very inspiring for us.
Prabhupada: The Butler picture?
Prabhupada: Another paper was there: "Ambassador of India's culture."
Hrdayananda: Many times the devotees lament that we could not have been there to help you, because there was so much service.
Prabhupada: Yes, you are helping me.
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Baradraj: [looking at flower] Who can create such fragrance except Krsna? [devotees laugh] Fragrance is coming from here, from the dirt, muddy dirt, and fragrance is coming. Unless there is fragrance, how it came here? The color is coming, the beauty is coming, the fragrance is coming, the arrangement is coming along the stem. Where is that scientist? They have seen every day, and "There is no God." Just see, how foolish they are. You do it.
Kirtanananda: In the future.
Prabhupada: [laughing] That is another bluff.
Kirtanananda: Post-dated check.
Prabhupada: Even if you do in future, what is credit? It is already done by somebody.
Prabhupada: "In future." They're competing with God, and without being success. Still: "I am God." What kind of God you are? And foolish men have no sense; they accept such rascals as God. They do not see what is God. How beautiful flowers, how nice arrangement. You cannot manufacture even one fiber, and still you deny God. Mudha. He's speaking, mayadhyaksena prakrtih suyate sa-caracaram [Bg 9.10]: "Under My supervision everything is being done." And you have got experience that unless one supervises, nothing can be done very nicely. So these things are being done under some expert supervision. This part is green, and this part it is red. Two colors are being transferred, transmitted. The flavor is not here, but here. What is this arrangement? There is no brain?
Hrdayananda: Superintelligence.
Prabhupada: And still the rascals say there is no God.
Prabhupada: No, what a fool they are. Try to expose these fools. But people have lost their reason, brain, everything. Even if we expose, they cannot understand. Still they will stick.
Bahulasva: What is their hope?
Prabhupada: Hope, last hope is to kill them.
[makes loud sound with hand or instrument]
Baradraj: Chopping off their...
Prabhupada: Kalki-avatara. No more teaching, saintly. With sword, cut. Finish. Wholesale massacre. Being killed by God, they get salvation.
Baradraj: What sort of salvation?
Hrdayananda: Which one, Prabhupada?
Prabhupada: I think it is Tenth Chapter.
Hrdayananda: Yes, beginning of the Tenth Chapter is here.
Prabhupada: Yes, what is the first verse? Eighth verse?
Hrdayananda: It starts in the Ninth Chapter, his prayers.
Prabhupada: Brahmadayah...
Hrdayananda: Yes.
Prabhupada: Read that.
"Prahlada Maharaja prayed: How is it possible for me, who have been born in a family of asuras, to offer suitable prayers to satisfy the Supreme Personality of Godhead? Even until now all the demigods, headed by Lord Brahma, and all the saintly persons could not satisfy the Lord by streams of excellent words, although such persons are very qualified, being in the mode of goodness. Then what is to be said of me? I am not at all qualified."
Prabhupada: Go on, second.
Hrdayananda: Purport?
Prabhupada: No purport. Translation.
Hrdayananda: Sanskrit also?
Prabhupada: Or translation. No, Sanskrit also. The mantra, hearing, that is very valuable. These are all Vedic mantras. If you simply hear, it helps you spiritually.
"Prahlada Maharaja continued: One may possess wealth, an aristocratic family, beauty, austerity, education, sensory expertise, luster, influence, physical strength, diligence, intelligence and mystic yogic power, but I think that even by all these qualifications one cannot satisfy the Supreme Personality of Godhead. However, one can satisfy the Lord simply by devotional service. Gajendra did this, and thus the Lord was satisfied with him."
"If a brahmana has all twelve of the brahminical qualifications [as they are stated in the book called Sanat-sujata] but is not a devotee and is averse to the lotus feet of the Lord, he is certainly lower than a devotee who is a dog-eater but who has dedicated everything-mind, words, activities, wealth and life-to the Supreme Lord. Such a devotee is better than such a brahmana because the devotee can purify his whole family, whereas the so-called brahmana in a position of false prestige cannot purify even himself."
"The Supreme Lord, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is always fully satisfied in Himself. Therefore when something is offered to Him, the offering, by the Lord's mercy, is for the benefit of the devotee, for the Lord does not need service from anyone. To give an example, if one's face is decorated, the reflection of one's face in a mirror is also seen to be decorated."
"Therefore, although I was born in a demoniac family, I may without a doubt offer prayers to the Lord with full endeavor, as far as my intelligence allows. Anyone who has been forced by ignorance to enter the material world may be purified of material life if he offers prayers to the Lord and hears the Lord's glories."
"O my Lord, all the demigods, headed by Lord Brahma, are sincere servants of Your Lordship, who are situated in a transcendental position. Therefore they are not like us [Prahlada and his father, the demon Hiranyakasipu]. Your appearance in this fearsome form is Your pastime for Your own pleasure. Such an incarnation is always meant for the protection and improvement of the universe."
"My Lord Nrsimhadeva, please therefore cease Your anger now that my father, the great demon Hiranyakasipu, has been killed. Since even saintly persons take pleasure in the killing of a scorpion or a snake, all the worlds have achieved great satisfaction because of the death of this demon. Now they are confident of their happiness, and they will always remember Your auspicious incarnation in order to be free from fear."
Prabhupada: You are reading the transcription or original verse?
Hrdayananda: Transcription.
Prabhupada: So this transcription is quite helpful in pronunciation, everything. Exact it is coming. The diacritic marks follow, you can pronounce exactly. Then?
"My Lord, who are never conquered by anyone, I am certainly not afraid of Your ferocious mouth and tongue, Your eyes bright like the sun or Your frowning eyebrows. I do not fear Your sharp, pinching teeth, Your garland of intestines, Your mane soaked with blood or Your high, wedgelike ears. Nor do I fear Your tumultuous roaring, which makes elephants flee to distant places, or Your nails, which are meant to kill Your enemies."
Prabhupada: Now he'll come to the point in which he's afraid of. Next verse.
"O most powerful, insurmountable Lord, who are kind to the fallen souls, I have been put into the association of demons as a result of my activities, and therefore I am very much afraid of my condition of life within this material world. When will that moment come when You will call me to the shelter of Your lotus feet, which are the ultimate goal for liberation from conditional life?"
Hrdayananda: Same verse, or next one?
Prabhupada: The same verse, trasto 'smi.
Hrdayananda: Trasto 'smy aham krpana-vatsala duhsahogra.
Hrdayananda: Usattama te 'ṅghri-mulam.
Prabhupada: "Therefore kindly engage me in Your service." What is the translation?
Hrdayananda: Of the whole verse?
Prabhupada: Of this verse, yes.
Hrdayananda: "O most powerful, insurmountable Lord, who are kind to the fallen souls, I have been put into the association of demons as a result of my activities, and therefore I am very much afraid of my condition of life within this material world. When will that moment come when You will call me to the shelter of Your lotus feet, which are the ultimate goal for liberation from conditional life?"
Prabhupada: Hmm. Is there a purport?
Hrdayananda: Yes. "Being in the material world is certainly miserable, but certainly when one is put into the association of asuras, or atheistic men, it is intolerably so. One may ask why the living entity is put into the material world. Indeed, sometimes foolish people deride the Lord for having put them here. Actually, everyone is put into conditional life according to his karma. Therefore Prahlada Maharaja, representing all the other conditioned souls, admits that he was put into life among the asuras because of the results of his karma. The Lord is known as krpana-vatsala because He is extremely kind to the conditioned souls. As stated in Bhagavad-gita, therefore, the Lord appears when there are discrepancies in the execution of religious principles [yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati bharata..., tadatmanam srjamy aham [Bg 4.7]. The Lord is extremely anxious to deliver the conditioned souls, and therefore He instructs all of us to return home, back to Godhead [sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg 18.66]. Thus Prahlada Maharaja expected that the Lord, by His kindness, would call him again to the shelter of His lotus feet. In other words, everyone should be eager to return home, back to Godhead, taking shelter of the lotus feet of the Lord and thus being fully trained in Krsna consciousness."
Prabhupada: Next verse.
Hrdayananda: Yasmat priyapriya-viyoga-samyoga-janma.
Prabhupada: This is description of this material life. Yasmat priyapriya?
Prabhupada: Hmm.
Translation? "O great one, O Supreme Lord, because of combination with pleasing and displeasing circumstances and because of separation from them, one is placed in a most regrettable position, within heavenly or hellish planets, as if burning in a fire of lamentation. Although there are many remedies by which to get out of miserable life, any such remedies in the material world are more miserable than the miseries themselves."
Prabhupada: Just see. [laughs] You want to mitigate some misery, and the process is still more miserable. Is it not?
Hrdayananda: Yes.
Prabhupada: They are trying to solve one problem, but creating another hundreds of problems.
Baradraj: What are some of the examples?
Prabhupada: Hmm?
Baradraj: What is some example of that?
Prabhupada: Just like you create a motorcar for easy transportation, and you have experience: the power problem, the accident problem. If there is no power problem, you get more petrol, and you commit more accident. And you stop car, then there is..., you are unable to move, because you now you have created city. If you want to go to consult a doctor, you have to go thirty miles from your residence. You require doctor, but because you have now car, you have big, big roads. So your doctor, medical consultant, is living thirty miles off. So you have to ride on cars to go to the market, to go to the office, to go to the medical man. So car is required. And as soon car is there, the accident is there, and there is..., power shortage is there, you require big, big roads, so on, so on, so on.
Prabhupada: So where is the solution of your problem? It has created more problem.
Kirtanananda: So village life is best.
Prabhupada: That is the best life. That you develop. It will be an ideal thing. You haven't got to go office fifty miles off. Just get little vegetable and milk, bas, your problem is solved. It is practical. Why you should go fifty miles off?
Prabhupada: That... Not only; the ferry, steamer, bus, train, subway, cars, there are so many things. I've seen it. They start for going to the office early in the morning, and they come back at eleven o'clock at night. And few hours, that is their family life. And that hours are wasted by sleeping and by sex. Bas. This is their life. And to forget all these miserable conditions, drink. This is civilization.
Hrdayananda: Horrible.
Radha-vallabha: My father used to get up very early in the morning to go to work, and he would be so tired from going to work, as soon as he got home, he would just eat and immediately fall asleep. I'd ask him why he was working so hard, he would say, "Simply to support the children." But now he has no more wife, no more children, and he's still working the same.
Prabhupada: Horrible civilization. Chant Hare Krsna.
Prabhupada: [laughs] All right, come to New Vrindavan, we shall give you food. That they won't come.
Baradraj: They are afraid of nature.
Kirtanananda: So Srila Prabhupada, I'm going back tonight.
Prabhupada: Why so soon?
Kirtanananda: To get ready for your coming.
Prabhupada: Hmm?
Prabhupada: I am also thinking of their fresh vegetable and fresh milk, [devotees laugh] which is not avail...
Prabhupada: Huh?
Hayagriva: Remember the first time you came? You walked up the road. Our car..., we tried to take you in the car, but it didn't work. It broke. Power wagon.
Kirtanananda: It got stuck.
Prabhupada: All fresh vegetable, fresh milk, this is celestial. Who has got the opportunity in the city? Automatically. [drumming outside]
Devotee: Some kind of parade.
Prabhupada: All right.
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