SPD11-01 Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 1.8.21, April 13, 1973, New York
SPD11-01
Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.8.21,
April 13, 1973, New York
Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.8.21,
April 13, 1973, New York
[13.19] [Pradyumna:] Om namo bhagavate vasudevaya. Om namo bhagavate vasudevaya. Om namo bhagavate vasudevaya.
[14.21] [leads chanting of verse] krsnaya vasudevaya devaki-nandanaya ca, nanda-gopa-kumaraya govindaya namo namaḥ [SB 1.8.21].
[19.12] [Prabhupada:] That's all.
[19:13] [Pradyumna:] [leads chanting of synonyms] krsnaya-the Supreme Lord;
[19:17] vasudevaya-unto the son of Vasudeva;
[19:23] devaki-nandanaya-unto the son of Devaki;
[19:30] ca-and;
[19:33] nanda-gopa-Nanda and the cowherd men;
[19:39] kumaraya-unto their son;
[19:43] govindaya-unto the Personality of Godhead, who enlivens the cows and the senses;
[19:55] namaḥ-respectful obeisances;
[20:00] namaḥ-obeisances.
[20:03] Translation: "Let me therefore offer my respectful obeisances unto the Lord, who has
[20:10] become the son of Vasudeva, the pleasure of Devaki, the boy of Nanda and
[20:15] the other cowherd men of Vrndavana, and the enlivener of the cows and the senses."
[20:22] [Prabhupada:] So in the beginning, Kuntidevi said that namasye purusam tvadyam isvaram prakrteḥ param [SB 1.8.18]:
[20:39] "I offer my obeisances unto the person, purusam, who is prakrteḥ param, who is beyond this material manifestation."
[20:56] Krsna is complete spirit soul, Supersoul. He has no material body.
[21:08] So in the beginning Kuntidevi gave us this understanding that God, the supreme purusa. Purusa means person.
[21:25] He's not imperson. Purusa. But He's not a purusa of this material world, not a personality of this material creation.
[21:41] That is to be understood. The impersonalists cannot accommodate in their poor fund of knowledge
[21:51] how the Supreme Absolute Truth can become a person, because whenever they think of person they
[21:59] think of a person of this material world. That is their defect. So they have poor fund of knowledge.
[22:13] Why God should be a person of this material world? So that was cleared in the beginning.
[22:21] Prakrteḥ param: beyond this material creation, but He is a person.
[22:28] So now that personality, although alaksyam, invisible, now, by the grace of Kunti, we can understand
[22:41] that although the Supreme Person is invisible, now He has appeared to be visible-Krsna.
[22:54] Therefore she says, krsnaya vasudevaya. Vasudeva conception...
[23:01] Sometimes the impersonalists, they have vasudeva conception,
[23:05] means all-pervading. So Kuntidevi is pointing out, "That Vasudeva is Krsna, all-pervading."
[23:17] Krsna, by His Vasudeva feature, He is all-pervading.
[23:29] This feature of Krsna... Krsna, the original person, has got three features: as the
[23:38] Supreme Personality of Godhead; as all-pervading Paramatma, Supersoul;
[23:45] and impersonal Brahman effulgence. So those who are interested in bhakti-yoga,
[23:57] they have no business with the impersonal Brahman effulgence. That is for common men.
[24:04] Common men. Just like you can try to understand: those who are inhabitants of the sun planet,
[24:17] what they have got to do with the sunshine? That is a most insignificant thing for them, sunshine.
[24:29] Similarly, those who are advanced in spiritual life, they are interested in the person,
[24:40] purusam, Vasudeva. Purusam. That realization takes place, as it is stated in the Bhagavad-gita,
[25:01] These impersonalists who are very much attached to the Brahman effulgence,
[25:08] such persons, they are called jnani. They are trying to understand the
[25:13] Absolute Truth by dint of their knowledge. But they do not know that their knowledge is very imperfect
[25:23] and limited, and Krsna, the Absolute Truth, is unlimited.
[25:29] You cannot approach the unlimited by your limited knowledge.
[25:34] That is not possible. So, by the grace of devotees like Kuntidevi, we can understand that here is the Vasudeva.
[25:49] The all-pervading Absolute Truth, Paramatma, Vasudeva, is here. Krsnaya vasudevaya.
[25:59] So this vasudeva realization is possible by the impersonalists after many, many births. Not very easily.
[26:12] Bahūnam janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate,
[26:22] Sudurlabhaḥ, "very rare"; mahatma, "broad-minded." But one who cannot understand Krsna,
[26:33] they are cripple-minded. They are not broad-minded.
[26:37] If one becomes broad-minded, then, by the grace of Krsna, he can understand Krsna.
[26:48] Sevonmukhe hi jihvadau [Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu 1.2.234]. The process is sevonmukha, service. Service, beginning with the tongue,
[26:59] vasudeva realization is possible. [break]
[27:02] This is the greatest service, Krsna consciousness. But maya is very strong.
[27:10] Still, it is the duty of every krsna-bhakta to try to enlighten everyone to Krsna consciousness.
[27:23] Just like Kuntidevi is pointing out. First of all she said, alaksyam sarva-bhūtanam antar bahir avasthi... [SB 1.8.18].
[27:33] Although Krsna, the Supreme Person, is without and within, still, to the rascals and fools, He is invisible.
[27:44] Therefore she is pointing out, "Here is the Lord, krsnaya vasudevaya." He is the all-pervading Supreme
[27:54] Personality of Godhead, but He's very much pleased to become the son of Devaki.
[28:05] Devaki-nandanaya. Devaki-nandanaya. Devaki-nandana is mentioned in Atharva-Veda also.
[28:14] Krsna comes as Devaki-nandana, and His foster father is Nanda-gopa, Nanda Maharaja.
[28:26] So Krsna likes to be related with His devotee as father and mother. Here in this material world,
[28:38] we try to make our relationship with the Supreme as father, but Krsna wants to become the son.
[28:48] Therefore nanda-gopaya. He takes pleasure to become a devotee's son.
[28:57] Ordinary men, they want God as father, but that is not very pleasing to Krsna. Father means...
[29:05] To become father means always botheration: "Give me this, give me this, give me this, give me this."
[29:11] You see? Of course, Krsna has got immense potencies to supply. Eko yo bahūnam vidadhati kaman [KU 2.2.13].
[29:21] He can supply everyone as much he wants. He's supplying food to the elephant.
[29:29] He's supplying food to the ant. Why not to the human being? But these rascals, they do not know.
[29:38] They're working day and night like ass to find out bread. And if he goes to church, there also: "Give me bread."
[29:48] They are only bread problem. That's all. Although the living entity is the son of the richest opulent person,
[29:59] but he has created his bread problem. This is called ignorance. He thinks that "If I do not solve my bread problem,
[30:11] if I do not drive my trucks day and night... Whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh,
[30:19] whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh... Such a nonsense civilization.
[30:25] You see? Bread problem. Where is bread problem? Krsna can supply.
[30:32] If He can supply food to the elephant in Africa...
[30:36] There are millions and millions of African elephants, you know, and they are supplied food.
[30:43] The Bhagavata says don't waste your time for this bread problem. Don't waste your time.
[30:51] Tasyaiva hetoḥ prayateta kovido na labhyate yad bhramatam upary adhaḥ .
[30:58] Don't waste your time how to solve your economic problems.
[31:04] This is nonsense. Of course, it is very revolutionary. People will hate me: "What Swamiji is speaking?"
[32:12] But actually this is the fact. This is another madness. Suppose you have got your rich father, enough food.
[31:21] Where is your economic problem? This is madness. There is no economic problem.
[31:28] If you are..., if you know that "My father is the richest man of the city," then where is my economic problem?
[31:36] Actually, that is the position. We have no economic problem. Everything is there, complete.
[31:43] Pūrnam pūrnam adaḥ pūrnam idam pūrnat pūrnam udacyate .
[31:50] Everything is complete there. You want water. Just see: there are oceans of water.
[32:00] You want purified water. You cannot. Although the ocean water's so much,
[32:05] when there is scarcity of water, you have take help of Krsna.
[32:10] He'll evaporate the water, He'll make it cloud. Then when it is falls down, then it becomes sweet.
[32:16] Otherwise you cannot touch. Everything under control.
[32:22] Everything is full-water, light, heat. Everything is complete.
[32:28] Pūrnat pūrnam udacyate, pūrnasya pūrnam adaya pūrnam evavasisyate.
[32:35] His stock is never finished.
[32:40] Simply you become obedient, and the supply is there. You can understand.
[32:48] These Krsna consciousness persons, they have no problem, economic problem.
[32:53] Everything is sufficiently supplied by Krsna. In Los Angeles, the neighborers, they are very envious,
[33:03] that "You do not work. You have no anxiety. You have got four cars. You are eating so nicely.
[33:11] How is that?" They inquire from our devotees. That is the actually the fact.
[33:17] We are spending so much money. We have got so many centers.
[33:22] The calculation is about $70,000 we are spending.
[33:26] Who is supplying? Somehow or other, we are getting. So there is no problem.
[33:33] You simply become sincere servant of Krsna, everything is there. This is the test.
[33:43] They are envious of us that we do not work; still, we have got so much.
[33:49] "So why don't you come and join us?"
[33:51] That they will not do. "You come with us, chant Hare Krsna." "No, no, no. That I cannot do."
[34:00] All right, then work with your trucks: whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh.
[34:07] They have made their own position dangerous and others' position also. They say...
[34:11] At any moment, there may be accident. You see? This is the civilization. Nonsense. This is not civilization.
[34:18] Civilization means calmness, peace, prosperity, santi.
[34:26] In peace and prosperity one should be Krsna conscious always.
[34:32] Tasyaiva hetoḥ prayateta kovido na labhyate yad bhramatam upary adhaḥ. In the animal life
[34:41] or other than human life, we had worked so much only for morsel of food, day and night, working.
[34:50] But still the food is there. Simply avidya-karma-samjnanya trtiya saktir isyate . Avidya.
[35:00] This material world is full of ignorance. So therefore our endeavor should be how to
[35:09] come out of this ignorance. Tasyaiva hetoḥ. For that reason we should work only.
[35:16] How to come out of this ignorance, that "I am this material body.
[35:22] I have to work day and night, and then I shall get my food, and I shall live." This is ignorance.
[35:31] Tasyaiva hetoḥ prajate... So this ignorance, this life of ignorance we have passed in,
[35:41] I mean to say, the forms other than the human being:
[35:46] animal life, bird's life, beast's life. Now this life should be peaceful, calm and quiet.
[35:57] And jivasya tattva-jijnasa, simply for inquiring about the Absolute Truth. That should be the business.
[36:07] Simply. Jivasya tattva-jijnasa. Athato brahma jijnasa. Simply sit down, just like we are sit down.
[36:16] We are sitting down and enquiring about Krsna. This is life. This is life. And what is this life?
[36:26] Working day and night like the ass? No. That is not life. Therefore Bhagavata says your life
[36:34] should be engaged for this purpose: tasyaiva hetoḥ prayateta kovidaḥ. Kovida means intelligent.
[36:41] Then: "How my economic problems will be solved?"
[36:45] The answer is, tal labhyate duḥkhavad anyataḥ sukham. You are after happiness.
[36:54] Are you after distress? "No, sir." Why distress comes upon you?
[36:59] You are not anxious for distress, calamities.
[37:03] Why do they come upon you? Similarly, so far your happiness is also concerned,
[37:08] that will also come upon you.
[37:10] Because your life, according to your karma, is mixed up with some portion of happiness,
[37:17] some portion of distress. If the distress comes without any invitation,
[37:22] the happiness also will come without invitation.
[37:25] Without any invitation. Because you are destined already that so much happiness,
[37:31] so much distress you will have. Destined. So you cannot change it.
[37:37] Try to change your lord, this material condition of life. That is your only business.
[37:44] Tasyaiva hetoḥ prayateta kovido na labhyate yad bhramatam upary adhaḥ...
[37:50] Bhramatam upary adhaḥ. You have tried. Bhramatam upary adh... Upari means higher planetary systems.
[37:57] Sometimes we get our birth in higher planetary system as demigods, and sometimes,
[38:03] adhaḥ, as animals, as cats and dogs, as germ of the stool. This is going on.
[38:10] This is going on according to our karma. Caitanya Mahaprabhu said,
[38:14] ei rūpe brahmanḍa bhramite kona bhagyavan jiva .
[38:20] Only a fortunate living entity gets this opportunity of association of Krsna and Krsna's devotee.
[38:29] Then his life becomes sublime.
[38:32] Ei rūpe brahmanḍa bhramite kona bhagyavan jiva, guru-krsna-krpaya paya bhakti-lata-bija.
[38:39] This bhakti-lata-bija, the seed of devotional service, chanting Hare Krsna mantra.
[38:47] So Kuntidevi is pointing out that "Who is the person, alaksya, invisible?" Here, Krsna. "Krsna?
[38:59] There are so many Krsnas." Vasudevaya, the son of Vasudeva. "There are many Vasudevas."
[39:06] No, nanda-gopa-nadanaya, the foster son of Maharaja Nanda.
[39:12] Three times she's pointing: "Here is Krsna." Krsna who officially takes His birth
[39:19] as son of Devaki and Vasudeva, but He enjoys the company of Mother
[39:27] Yasoda and Nanda Maharaja-the childhood company.
[39:33] This is Krsna's pastimes. So ananda-lilamaya-vigrahaya. Ananda-lila, Krsna's lila, pastimes, are all jubilant.
[39:47] Ananda-lilamaya. Anandamayo 'bhyasat . He is by nature anandamaya. Krsna,
[39:54] you'll never find Krsna is very unhappy. Krsna is never unhappy. Krsna is always happy.
[40:03] Therefore nanda-gopa-kumaraya govindaya. He is happy, and whoever..., whoever associates with Him,
[40:14] he's also happy. Govindaya. We are after sense gratification. Go means senses.
[40:23] So if you associate with Krsna, you enjoy your senses affluently. Just like the gopis are dancing with Krsna.
[40:35] So there is no scarcity of sense gratification also. But that is not this sense gra..., gross sense gratification.
[40:42] That is spiritual sense. That is spiritual sense. Ananda-cinmaya-sad-ujjvala-vigrahasya [Bs. 5.32],
[40:50] we chant every day. That sense, you get, sense gratification is ananda-cinmaya,
[40:58] cinmaya, in the spiritual world.
[41:00] Not this third-class ananda, with these bodily senses. This is not ananda. This is an illusion.
[41:11] This is illusion. We are thinking that "I'm enjoying," but that is not ananda. This ananda is not fact,
[41:20] because we cannot enjoy this material sense pleasure for long. Everyone has got experience.
[41:27] It is finished. It is finished. But spiritual enjoyment does not finish. It increases. That is the difference.
[41:42] So you have to associate with Govinda. Here is, also, it is said, govindaya namo namaḥ:
[41:48] "I offer my respectful obeisances to Govinda." So this Krsna consciousness movement is so nice-
[41:57] you become directly in contact with Govinda. This Deity worship is also directly in contact with Govinda.
[42:08] Sri-vigraharadhana-nitya-nana-srhgara-tan mandira-marjanadau.
[42:14] This vigraha, the Deity of Krsna, that is also Krsna's mercy. Because Krsna is alaksya, invisible,
[42:25] He has become visible for your facility, as you can see. Still...
[42:32] It is not that Krsna is stone or Krsna is wood or Krsna is metal.
[42:40] Krsna is always Krsna. But He appears... Because you cannot see except wood, stone and metal,
[42:49] He appears like that, wood, stone or metal. But He's not wood, stone or metal.
[42:55] You'll get the same facility as Krsna personally if you associate..., when you associate.
[43:03] You will associate with Krsna. But at the present moment, because Krsna is invisible,
[43:10] therefore He has very kindly taken a form which is visible by you. This is Krsna's mercy.
[43:20] Do not think, "Oh, here is Krsna, stone Krsna." Krsna is everything. Krsna is everything.
[43:27] So Krsna is stone also. Krsna is stone also. But He's not that stone that cannot act. Krsna act also in the stone form also.
[43:42] Krsna act also in metal form also. And you will perceive that. Svayam eva sphuraty adaḥ. The more you give service,
[43:51] the so-called stone also speak with you. There are many instances like that.
[43:58] So we should take to this Krsna consciousness movement according to the sastra. Sri...
[44:08] I am very pleased that you are doing nicely, dressing the Deity very nicely. More and more,
[44:15] in this way offer Krsna nice prasadam, nice foodstuff, nice dress. Keep the temple very clean.
[44:26] Sri-mandira-marjanadisu. Marjana means cleansing. Either you dress Krsna or cleanse the temple,
[44:36] the effect is the same. Don't think that "I am a cleanser and he is a dresser." No.
[44:42] The dresser and the cleanser are the same. Krsna is Absolute. In any way, be engaged in Krsna's service.
[44:50] Your life will be successful. This is Krsna consciousness movement.
[44:54] So by the grace of Kuntidevi we can understand that Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead,
[45:03] Vasudeva. Vasudeva... Another meaning of vasudeva is that when you come to the platform of vasudeva.
[45:22] First of all, we have to come to the platform of goodness.
[45:26] But here in the material world, the goodness is also sometimes contaminated by other low qualities:
[45:34] ignorance and passion.
[45:38] So by hearing about Krsna, srnvatam sva-kathaḥ krsnaḥ punya-sravana-kirtanaḥ... .
[45:50] Just like you are hearing about Krsna. Similarly, try to hear about Krsna always,
[45:57] twenty-four hours chant about Krsna. In this way, the dirty things will be cleansed.
[46:07] Nasta-prayesv abhadresu nityam bhagavata-sevaya [SB 1.2.18].
[46:12] Nityam. Nityam means always. Not that bhagavata-saptaha, official. No, not like that.
[46:21] That is another exploitation. In the Bhagavata it is said, nityam bhagavata-sevaya.
[46:28] Nityam means daily, twenty-four hours. Either you read Srimad-Bhagavatam or
[46:35] carry out the order of your spiritual master. This is also order. Bhagavata is spiritual master.
[46:42] Vaisnava, he's also bhagavata. Acaryas, bhagavata. Grantha-bhagavata and person, person
[46:52] bhagavata. So person bhagavata or book Bhagavata, you always serve.
[46:00] Nityam bhagavata-sevaya.
[47:01] Bhagavaty uttama-sloke bhaktir bhavati naisthiki. Then you will be fixed up-naisthiki;
[47:11] nobody can move you-bhagavaty uttama-sloke, unto the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
[47:18] So in this way, Krsna consciousness movement should be realized by you
[47:27] by the process prescribed, and try to give to the people.
[47:31] This is the greatest welfare activities in the world: to awaken Krsna consciousness,
[47:39] the dormant Krsna consciousness. It is, of course, practically, you can see, four or five years ago,
[47:46] none of you were in Krsna consciousness, but it has been awakened. Now you are Krsna conscious.
[47:52] So others can be awakened also. There is no difficulty. The process is the same.
[47:59] So by following the footprints of devotees like Kunti, we shall be able to understand, as she's pointing out:
[48:07] krsnaya vasudevaya devaki-nandanaya ca, nanda-gopa-kumaraya.
[48:14] This is Krsna's identification. Just like we take identification of a person: "What is your father's name?"
[48:24] So here we're giving, presenting God with His father's name, with His mother's name, with His address.
[48:33] We are not impersonalists, vague idea. No. Everything complete, perfect, the identification.
[48:41] If you take advantage of this propagation of Krsna consciousness, then you are certainly benefited.
[48:48] Thank you very much. Hare Krsna.
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