So those who are ordinarily sinful, they can at least see the light once, but those who are very severely sinful, they're killed within the womb. They cannot see even the light coming out. There are so many cases now, it is very (indistinct) that so many children, before coming out of the womb of the mother and before seeing the light of the sun, they are killed. And after killing, after being killed, the body is finished. Then he has to be put another body. Then enters another mother's body. Again the body is developed, and again he is killed. Just imagine. This... Because if... Tit for tat. If I kill a child in the womb"Now I am very much proud of my scientific advancement"then I am have to be killed in my birth. That's all. You cannot avoid this nature's law. Daivi hy esa gunamayi mama maya duratyaya [Bg. 7.14]. There is very, very suksma. The word is used suksma, very, very fine laws. Who can see it? Atma-yoni, so he's also not free. Although he is Lord Brahma, he's also not free. He's perplexed: "Wherefrom I came? What is the source of my birth in darkness?" He could see only the lotus flower on which he was sitting, nothing else. Exactly our position... Just like so many scientists, they think that this world is everything, and other planets and worlds, there is no life. Only because he is there, there is life. This is the modern presentation.

But that is not the fact. There are many, many millions and trillions of planets. Everywhere there is life. Even in the sun planet there is life. We see it is fiery. If there is no life, then where is the opportunity of Krsna's speaking, imam vivasvate yogam proktavan aham avyayam: [Bg. 4.1] "I spoke first of all this science to Vivasvan"? Vivasvan manave praha... [break] "First of all I spoke this science to the sun god, the chief person in the sun planet." So we cannot accept the so-called scientists' version that there is no life in the sun planet. Everywhere there is: sun planet, moon planet every... In the moon planet al... [break] ...arhad yad brahmano viduh. So many millions of years is equal to twelve hours... [break] Lord Brahma had to undergo austerity for hundreds of years of his calculation. So not our hundreds of years. Our hundreds of years may be Brahma's a few hours only. Law of relativity. So Brahma, even though he is directly born of Visnu, he's not ordinary living be... He's also a living entity like us, but very, very pious. Just like here somebody is very rich, very influential, very beautiful, very learned. These are the results of pious activities, janmaisvarya-sruta-sri [SB 1.8.26]. If you are pious, then you get good opportunity of taking your birth in good family, aristocratic family, brahmana family, like that. You become beautiful, become educated. So Brahma is also a similar living entity, but he's very, very pious. Very very pious. And Brahma... Brahma's post is so exalted that when there is no living entity available, then Lord Visnu Himself becomes Brahma. The post is so important. My point is that although he's so pious, greatly exalted, still, he had to purify himself.

Here it is said, kalena tivra-tapasa parisuddha-bhavah. Parisuddha-bhavah. To become purified of the material contamination is not so easy. So you should always remember that the purificatory process which has been prescribed to you, how rigidly you have to follow. If you are neglectful, then you are losing the chance because you... Try to understand. This material world is so contaminous that even Lord Brahma had to purify himself by austerities for many hundreds of years. I'm just trying to bring this point, how Caitanya Mahaprabhu is so kind, that for purification of Brahma's body he had to take so many years under severe austerity, and Caitanya Mahaprabhu, because we are so much fallen, not to compare with Brahma, very, very fallen, still, He gives us a little formula:

So this is the important point, that sa tu atma-yonir ativismita. He became very much surprised: "Wherefrom I am coming, and where I am situated? What is the purpose?" So to understand all these intricacies, he had to undergo... It was ordered: tapo. In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, there was a sound vibration. When Brahma was perplexed there was a sound vibration. That sound vibration was indirectly said that "You undergo tapasya. Tapasya. Then you'll understand wherefrom you have come, why you have come, what is your business. These things will be revealed." Tapasya. So that tapasya he had to perform many hundreds years. Nabhinandat, avindad abda-satam apsu. Not only he... He had to go underneath the water, apsu, and he performed tapasya there. Just imagine how much difficult it was to go underneath the water. He first of all wanted to search out "Wherefrom my birth is?" Then he saw the stem of the lotus flower on which he was sitting, and then he found there is water. So he went within the water. It is said, apsu. And there he executed tapasya.

So this human form of life, we are born out of Brahma. Brahma is called, therefore, great-grandfather. Not great-grand... Grandfather. He is called grandfather. Because Manu, from Manu we have come, therefore our name is manusya, "man," from the word Manu. That Manu is born of Brahma. Therefore he is called grandfather, pitamaha. And Krsna has been addressed in the Bhagavad-gita, "the great-grandfather." So He is the father of Brahma also. Atma-yoni. So this is the position of Brahma. So he had to undergo so great austerity to understand his position, so how much austerity we have to perform to understand our position: "What I am? What is my business? Why I have come here? Why I am suffering?" Everyone is suffering, but we are so callous, so rascal, we don't take care of it. We say, "That's all right. I shall die peacefully." Yes. I met one very exalted man, lord, in London.

So if the human society has no discrimination of eating anything... Now I understand they're eating..., they are killing their own child, and the child is also being eaten. Who was telling?

So we have to undergo tapasya because our grandfather, he had to undergo tapasya. So anyone who is in this material world, Brahma, beginning from Brahma down to the ant, must undergo tapasya. But for the ant, cats and dogs, it is not possible. They are condemned. They will have to come to the human form of life by evolutionary process by the help of nature. But as soon as we come to the human form of life, the responsibility is there. What is that responsibility? Because you have got developed consciousness more than the cats and dogs, you have to decide, "How I have come to this material world? Why I am suffering? I do not wish to die. The death is there. I do not want disease. The disease is there. I don't want to take birth, enter into the womb of the mother. Still I am forced to do it. I don't want to become an old man. I become old man." So this is human intelligence. Unless you come to this intelligence, athato brahma jijnasa, "What I am? Am I this body or something else...?"

So we have to analyze, analyze that this body is made of the material elements: earth, water, fire, ether, like that. The... We are breathing. What is this breathing? We are very much proud of breathing. Eh? The breathing is simply ventilation, air. But you cannot set up this breathing to a dead man. That is not possible, although it is simply air, nothing but air. But as soon as it is gone out of it... You are great scientist. Bring this air, pump. No, there is no life. So in this way there is analysis. From water we are getting blood. From blood we are getting semina. From urine... So many things we are getting. So this body is manufactured by these things, by the material elements. So am I this body? If I am this body, then after the death why...? These material elements are there. Why you cannot replace it? I am not body. I'm living within the body. And that is confirmed in the Bhagavad-gita. Krsna says, dehino 'smin yatha dehe kaumaram yauvanam, tatha dehantara [Bg. 2.13]. Asmin dehe: "In this body there is the living entity."

So one has to learn this. But they cannot learn because they do not undergo austerity. That is the defect. No education is there how to perform austerity. Therefore Vedic civilization is how to teach small children austerities. That is brahmacari. So we want to start this brahmacari asrama, or gurukula, to learn austerity from the beginning of life. Then their life will be successful. They'll understand. Not to become a grammarian. That is not our... So we should take lesson from Brahmaji, our grandfather, that parisuddha-bhavah tivra-tapasa. This is Caitanya Mahaprabhu's grace, mercy, that we haven't got to undergo tivra-tapasa. But we are thinking, "This is also very difficult." What is that? No illicit sex, no meat-eating, no gambling, no intoxication. But they are taking it very, very severe. What is the severity? We don't say "No sex," but "No illicit sex." This much tapasya, austerity, you cannot follow? Tapasya must be there. Unless you undergo tapasya, there is no rescue. Even Brahma had to perform tapasya, what to speak of us. You cannot avoid it. Tapasa brahmacaryena [SB 6.1.13]. Tapasya begins from brahmacarya: no illicit sex, no sex. But that is not possible. At least stop illicit sex. Tapasa brahmacaryena [SB 6.1.13]. This is very important thing.

So we should always remember that without... Tapo divyam putraka yena suddhyet sattva [SB 5.5.1]. Rsabhadeva advised His sons, "My dear sons, this human form of life, don't live like cats and dogs. Don't spoil your life." Then what to do? Now, tapah: "Undergo..." Just like Brahma was advised. Brahma is the son of Visnu, so when he was perplexed, the same advice was given, tapah. So he underwent. He underwent tapasa, tivra-tapasa. Tivra means very severe. So we are advised, tivra, tivrena bhakti-yogena. It is said in the sastra,

"So how I can find out the real guru by whose words I'll be nicely directed and achieve?" That is not very difficult. You read Bhagavad-gita. You'll understand. Just like Arjuna. When he was perplexed, he accepted Krsna-guru. He said, sisyas te 'ham: [Bg. 2.7] "I become Your (disciple) now... We are talking friendly. The argument will not be ended. Now I become Your disciple." Sisyas te 'ham. Because as soon as one becomes a sisya... Sisya means under the order, regulation. A person cannot disobey the order of guru. Then he is sisya. If he argues, he's not sisya. He's not a sisya. Therefore Arjuna says, sisyas te 'ham: "I surrender, voluntarily surrender to become Your disciple. Now I shall not argue." That is called sisya. If you argue, then you are not a sisya. Guru-mukha-padma-vakya, cittete koriya, ara na koriya mane asa **. This is tapasya, that "I shall not act anything which is not ordered by my guru," that tapasya. Tapo divyam putraka [SB 5.5.1]. Then we'll be nicely guided, and then sattva suddhyam... Then our this existence will be purified. And as soon as our existence is purified, then we realize the situation, what is God, what is our relationship with Him, what is our activities, athato brahma jijnasa, janmadya asya yatah, everything.

Here it is, tu atmani isa bhuvi. So what was the realization of Brahma after tapasya? Now, gandham iva atisuksmam bhutendriya. Just like Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita, punyo gandhah prthivyam ca: "I am the smell within the earth." So everyone knows there is smell within the earth. There is color within the earth. Everything is there within the earth. Otherwise how in a particular plant the color and the smell, the flavor, and everything is..., beauty, everything is coming? You daily see. So ordinarily you see heaps of dirt, but everything is there. Similarly, ordinarily we see this universe, but in every atom there is Krsna. That was realized by Brahma. Then he became the great personality to teach us. Tene brahma hrda adi-kavaye, In this way he instructed adi-kavi, the first learned man-kavi means learned manBrahma, Vedic knowledge. So there was no other teacher. Krsna taught him. Therefore we belong to the Brahma-sampradaya. Krsna instructed Brahma. Brahma instructed Narada. Narada instructed Vyasadeva. Vyasadeva instructed Sukadeva. In this way our guru-parampara system... Therefore we worship the guru as Vyasa-puja because representative of Vyasa. And who is Vyasa? Representative of Narada. What is Narada? Representative of Brahma. What is Brahma? Representative of Krsna. This is called parampara system.

Thank you very much. (end)