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Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.3.18

Gorakhpur, February 11, 1971
Prabhupada: ...raksanti tad-bhaktimatah parebhyo mattas ca martyan atha sarvatas ca [SB 6.3.18]. So invisible Visnudutas, they are always traveling. Just like Visnu, Lord Visnu, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. He is all-pervading, He is everywhere, but our present eyes cannot see Him, material eyes. Just like we cannot see even the living entity when he is passing through this body, leaving this body aside, very small. We cannot see. Atah sri-krsna-namadi na bhaved grahyam indriyaih [Cc. Madhya 17.136]. By the dint of your..., by the strength of your senses, the present material senses, it is not possible to appreciate sri-krsna-namadi. Beginning from Krsna's holy name. (dog barking) (aside:) Where is this dog? No, your dog. Your dog? This is your dog?
Guest: No no no.
Prabhupada: Why is barking? So invisible Visnudutas, they are always everywhere. Just like police constables, Yamadutas are there, and Visnudutas are there. Civil guard and the police constables, both are there. So Yamadutas' business is to arrest the sinful. That is their... Here everyone is sinful. Nobody is free from sin. That is the position of this material world. So Yamadutas are searching or taking away. Just after leaving this body, one is taken away by Yamaduta to the place of Yamaduta. There is a planet described in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. So those who are very sinful, they are dragged through hot desert. They cannot... They fall down. Such persons fall down, but still, he is dragged through the desert. These descriptions are there. Sometimes we feel like that. So there is a planet. So sinful persons are arrested and taken to Yamadutas. Similarly, Visnudutas are there. Bhutani visnoh sura-pujitani. Sura means demigod. The residents of the higher planets, they also respect, show their obeisances, respectful obeisances, to these assistants of..., Visnudutas, sura-pujitani. Durdarsa-lingani. Durdarsa, very rarely seen. Because the Ajamila was practically the only case who was taken from the clutches of the Yamaduta. Otherwise there is no need of their coming. But there are still devotees. Just like Krsna says, tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti: [Bg. 4.9] "After leaving this body they do not come again to take birth in this material world, but they come to Me." So those who are eligible to go back to Godhead, they are taken by Visnuduta as guides. But durdarsa-lingani, they are very rarely to be seen because directly going to Vaikuntha after leaving this body, such persons are also very rare. Durdarsa-lingani mahadbhutani. Adbhuta, wonderful. Certainly they must be wonderful because they are spiritual bodyfour hands, with different weapons, just like Visnu.
So such things are not visible within this material world. Therefore mahadbhutani, very wonderful. Mahadbhutani raksanti. What is their business? They give protection to the devotees. Raksanti tad-bhaktimatah parebhyah. Bhaktimatah. Those who are engaged in devotional service, they are protected from parebhyah. Parebhyah. means the enemies of the devotees. The devotees of the Lord are always protected by these Visnudutas, who are almost as powerful as Visnu. And they give protection to the devotees of the Lord, mad-bhaktah, tad-bhaktamatah, who are following the principles of devotional service, parebhyah. How they are protected? First they are protected from the hands of the enemies. Because there are many enemies. Don't think that because one has become Krsna conscious there will be no enemy. Of course, Krsna conscious person is always ajata-satru. There cannot be any enemy. There cannot be enemy in this sensethat no enemy can do any harm to them. Because they are always protected, no enemy can harm to them. Ajata-satru. As Krsna is ajata-satru, no enemy can harm to Him, there are satrus or enemies of Krsna, as you will read from the Krsna ... Thousands and thousands of the demons, from the very beginning of His birth there are enemies. When Krsna is born... (aside:) Don't meditate. Just hear. These are important things. Krsna, as soon as He is born, there is enemy present, Kamsa. As soon as He is grown little, two months, three months, there is enemy-Putana, Agha, Baka. So even God, Krsna, has got enemies, so why not of the devotees? The devotees' enemy... Just like Hiranyakasipu. He is enemy of his son, five-years-old son. So you don't think that because one has become Krsna conscious, he has no enemy. Don't judge in that way: "Oh, he is Krsna conscious. Why there is enemy? Why somebody criticizes him? Why one finds fault with him? Then he is not krsna-bhakta." The enemies will do that. That is enemies' business. Even Krsna has enemy; why not the... Just like Jesus Christ, he had enemies. He was killed by the enemies. Sometimes it so happened. Haridasa Thakura had enemies. So enemies there will be. Because he has got enemy, therefore it is not that he is krsna-bhakta. He is krsna-bhakta, even having his enemies, just like Krsna, despite having enemies, is Krsna. But the difference is that Krsna or Krsna's bhakta will never be defeated by the enemies. That is the distinction. Enemies may have, but he will never be defeated. God or God's devotee cannot be defeated by the enemies. Otherwise Krsna's declaration will be false. He says, kaunteya pratijanihi na me bhaktah pranasyati [Bg. 9.31].
Here it is also stated that raksanti. Raksanti. Raksanti means protect. What is the business? The raksanti. From where? Parebhyah, from the hands of the enemies. Krsna is able. He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. He can protect Himself. Just like when Krsna was a child on the lap of His mother, the Putana came to attack by policy to poison the child. But Krsna was so able that He agreed to suck the breast of the Putana smeared with poison. But we should not imitate that. Unconsciously, somebody gives poison. That is... Krsna protects. But we should not imitate. Krsna can eat any amount of poison. Even Krsna's greatest devotee, Lord Siva, he can also drink any amount of poison. But the rascals, fools, they think that "Lord Siva smokes ganja and he can drink the ocean of poison. So let us also try to follow the footsteps of Lord Siva by smoking ganja." They cannot follow the footsteps of Lord Siva that he is the greatest devotee, always chanting Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna. That is not their business, to follow. But they are very much eager to follow the footsteps of Lord Siva for smoking ganja. But they do not know that Siva, Lord Siva, can drink an ocean of poison and he can keep it just here. He does not allow it go to the stomach. That is his power. He cannot... He does not allow the poison. Therefore His another name is Nilakantha, Nilakantha, Nilakantha, because he keeps the poison here, kantha. It is called? Throat. Because he keeps the poison just on the door of the throat, he does not... That is Lord Siva. Just like there are many fools who try to imitate Krsna for performing the rasa-lila with women. But they cannot imitate Krsna for killing Putana, Aghasura, Bakasura, or lifting the Govardhana. That they do not follow. That is very difficult for them. The rascals, they take easily.
(aside:) So you can go and lie down. Why you are sitting? This is not good. You don't have sufficient sleep from ten to four? Is not sufficient? Why you do like this? Whole day and night, whenever you sit down. What is this? Every one of you more or less. What is the reason?
Yamuna: Inattentive.
Prabhupada: Inattentive means like this? No. Unless one is tired or had no sufficient sleep, one cannot do like that. Not inattentiveness.
Gurudasa: Not enough sleep.
Prabhupada: Enough sleep. That means you require twenty-four hours sleep. Out of that, if you sleep for ten hours, that is not sufficient. Your business is to sleep only. So ten hours' or eight hours' sleep is not sufficient. Kumbhakarna. Kumbhakarna. Just like he was sleeping six months.
Tamala Krsna: Hibernation.
Prabhupada: (chuckling) Six months. We are also sleeping six months in a year because we sleep, generally, ten to twelve hours. So if you half day, means half year. We are also all Kumbhakarnas. Anyone who sleeps more than six or seven hours, he is a Kumbhakarna. Kumbhakarna was the brother of Ravana. He was sleeping six months, and six months he was awake. That means anyone who sleeps half the, out of twenty-four hours, anyone, if he sleeps twelve hours, he's a Kumbhakarna. So at least I think that one should not sleep more than seven hours utmost. That is sufficient, sufficient, seven hours. So you can sleep six hours at night and one hour to rest in daytime. That is sufficient. But if you sleep more than that, then you are Kumbhakarna. You should adjust things. Nidrahara-viharakadi-vijitau. That's the Gosvamins.
sankhya-purvaka-nama-gana-natibhih kalavasani-krtau
nidrahara-viharakadi-vijitau catyanta-dinau ca yau
radha-krsna-guna-smrter madhurimanandena sammohitau
vande rupa-sanatanau raghu-yugau sri-jiva-gopalakau **
So we are followers, Rupanuga. We are followers of the Gosvamins. So their behavior, sankhya-purvaka-nama-gana-natibhih kalavasani-krtau. The whole time, twenty-four hours, was used in Krsna consciousness by chanting Hare Krsna mantra regularly on fixed up, big beads. So we have reduced that to sixteen. But they were chanting... Haridasa Thakura was chanting four times sixty-four. That means... Three times sixty-four. So three times sixty-four means?
Tamala Krsna: One hundred and ninety-two.
Prabhupada: One hundred and ninety-two rounds. And we are giving you only for sixteen rounds. We don't ask you to imitate Haridasa Thakura. But sankhya-purvaka... He would not sleep or he would not eat unless he has finished his 192 rounds. Sankhya-purvaka-nama-gana... And nama-gana and natibhih. Raghunatha dasa Gosvami was offering obeisances round the Radha-kunda, whole, that "So many times I shall fall down." He was falling down. Still there are many devotees, they do that. You fall down, dandavat. Then, from the point where your head is touching, you just have a line. Again stand there and fall down. Again stand there and fall down. Huh?
Devotee (1): He would circumambulate?
Prabhupada: Yes. Just see how much good exercise it is. Huh? Just like I fall down in this way, flat. Then I make a line. And I stand again in that line; again fall down. Make a line. Again that line. In this way, round. Tapasya. This is called tapasya, austerity. We should not take very leniently that we are going back to Godhead. Of course, there is so many concession for the... But at the same time, we should be very much aware of the responsibility that we have decided to go back to Godhead after leaving this body, so we have to perform some austerities. The austerity in our Gaudiya-sampradaya is very simple: following the four principles, restriction, avoiding the offenses, and chanting regular beads. That's all. And hearing. Chanting and hearing, both things. Not only chanting; we have to hear Srimad-Bhagavatam. In this way we should engage twenty-four hours' business. Hear and chanting... When you speak, when you go to a lecture for preaching, that is also chanting, when you speak. And automatically there is hearing. If you chant, there is hearing also. Sravanam kirtanam visnoh smaranam [SB 7.5.23]. There is memorizing also. Unless you memorize all the conclusions of Srimad-Bhagavatam, Bhagavad-gita, you cannot speak. Sravanam kirtanam visnoh smaranam pada-sevanam arcanam. Arcanam, this is arcanam. Vandanam, offering prayers. Hare Krsna is also prayer. Hare Krsna Hare Krsna: "O Krsna, O the energy of Krsna, please engage me in Your service." This Hare Krsna is simply prayer. So sravanam kirtanam visnoh smaranam pada-sevanam arcanam vandanam dasyam. Always remain engaged as servant, dasyam. Sakhyam, always think that Krsna is your best friend, atma-nivedanam, and dedicating everything to Krsna. This is our process. And we have to be utilized under these processes twenty-four hours. Out of that, because we have got this body, it requires eating, sleeping, mating.
So the arrangement is there. Eating is there; sleeping is there; mating is there; defending is therebut not excessively. Nama-gana... Sankhya-purvaka-nama-gana-natibhih kalavasani-krtau nidrahara-viharakadi-vijitau **. The very word is used, vijita. You should not be conquered by them. Eating, sleeping, mating, defending required, but you should not be conquered by them. You shall conquer them. The maya is forcing me that "You sleep twenty-four hours." But I have to conquer maya: "No. I shall not sleep more than seven hours." That is your business. If I ask, if you say, "I don't know," that is not the answer. You have to... And how this maya can be conquered? That is also said. Mam eva ye prapadyante mayam etam taranti te: [Bg. 7.14] "Anyone who is fully surrendered, he can conquer the maya." Just like Haridasa Thakura conquered maya. She came at dead of night, beautifully dressed, very young girl, and offered herself. But he conquered. "Yes, I shall do. I shall enjoy with you. Please sit down. Let me finish my regular chanting process. Then we shall enjoy." So he conquered maya. Maya could not conquer.
So these are the instances. And if we fall flat to be conquered by the maya, then... We have to struggle. This is also another struggle for existence. As the materialists, they are also struggling for existence for a few days or few years only, our struggle is not for few days or few years, but eternally. The same struggle is there. Their process is different, our process is different. So we should be always conscious of our responsibility that... That will help us. We must stay awake. Uttisthata. Always remain awakened. So regular, seven hours sleep is sufficient. Why it should be more than that? What is the cause? Another cause may be that if we eat more, then sleep more. So in order to reduce the sleeping process, the eating process should be reduced. You can take, make... I..., you fast one day, don't take anything, you will see that there will be less sleep. Is it not? Yes.
Devotee (2): I generally find that the first day of a fast I sleep. Second day I feel a little more...
Prabhupada: Then you continue fasting?
Devotee (2): Yes. For example, last night I ate very heavily, but this morning, now I'm awake. I'm staying awake.
Prabhupada: Why you eat heavily?
Devotee (2): I'm saying that incidentally, I ate heavily, and this morning I am not falling asleep.
Prabhupada: So anyway, that you have to adjust, all of you, that "How I shall not sleep more than seven hours." Six hours, from ten to four, that is six hours, complete. And one hour during daytime. Then no more sleeping unless you are sick. But why you young boys and girls, why should you fall sick? There is no question of falling sick. You have got your now blood running on. You are not old. Your stomach is working nice. So you should adjust. For a devotee, to reduce this is the process, this ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithunam. Eating, sleeping, mating and defending, they should be reduced, and come to the point, no sleeping, no eating. That is not possible. But spirit soul, when one... Just like Raghunatha dasa Gosvami. He came to that point, no sleeping, no eating. All the Gosvamis, they were not sleeping more than two hours. So why about Gosvamis? Even big karmis, like Subash Bose, Gandhi, they were also not sleeping. I heard that Napoleon Bonaparte, he was not sleeping. He was sleeping... When he was passing from one warfield to another, on his horse he slept. That's all. He never went to the bedroom for sleeping. Gandhi used to do that. He would sleep when he was passing from one station, one... In the motorcar he would sleep. Then again he will begin work.
Devotee (1): Sometimes you sleep only for five minutes. Only for five minutes.
Tamala Krsna: Can we do that?
Prabhupada: Yes. But Gandhi was very regular in his eating. He would take simply a cup of goat's milk and few peanuts and some day one or two capatis. Otherwise he will not take anything. And some oranges.
Devotee (2): I heard he used to take raw...
Prabhupada: Huh?
Devotee (2): A root. A particular root which has a...
Prabhupada: That is for blood pressure medicine. Blood pressure medicine. That is different thing. But he was eating very little. His secretaries, his grandson and granddaughter-in-law and some other girls, they were assisting. So he would, even in the jail... Government, when imprisoned him, he will take his goat. A great politicianhe would not accept government supplied food. Goat must be milked before him, and the milk is made hot and given to him. He would not allow any other food. Then he will starve. He will fast. So government was obliged to give him whatever he wanted as his food. So Gandhi was not sleeping very much. Even ordinary, Subash Bose, he was not sleeping very much. And Napoleon Bonaparte, he also was not sleeping very much. So there were many instances, even the karmi. That means when one is engaged in some serious business, he sleeps less. When I was in your country and was not attacked by the heart, so at night I was taping, and I was taping still two tapes. Two tapes. Therefore I was able to write so many books. Yes.
So one should be engaged in serious business; then sleeping will be less. If there is no..., if we become lazy, if we have no sufficient engagement, then sleeping will come. And if no sufficient engagement, but sufficient eating, then the next result is sleeping. So we have to adjust things. We should not sleep more than seven hours. Six hours at night and one hour, that is sufficient. From medical point of view, they say six hours sleeping is sufficient, six hours. So suppose if we sleep seven to eight hours, one hour more, then out of twenty-four hours we sleep eight hours. Then sixteen hours. And chanting, two hours. Ten hours. And for taking bath and dressing, another two hours. Then eight hours and four hours, twelve hours. So...
Devotee (1): Then eating.
Prabhupada: No. I have taken that: two hours for taking bath and eating, and eight hours for sleepingten hours. And two hours for chantingtwelve hours. And still we have got twelve hours for Krsna's service. Is there any mistake? Just calculate. Why there should be, "Oh, I work so hard. I have no... Therefore I am sleeping more," to find out an excuse. "I was dysentery." Why you dysentery? Why there should be dysentery unless you eat more? This way, personally we have to adjust things, not that by dictation or by rules and regulations. Personal affairs cannot be adjusted by rules and regulation. It can be adjusted by oneself. And then everything will be all right.
sankhya-purvaka-nama-gana-natibhih kalavasani-krtau
nidrahara-viharakadi-vijitau catyanta-dinau ca yau
radha-krsna-guna-smrter madhurimanandena sammohitau
vande rupa-sanatanau raghu-yugau sri-jiva-gopalakau **
They save time in this way, and radha-krsna-padaravinda-bhajananandena mattalikau, be jolly in the service of Radha-Krsna, bhajanananda. That should be the basis of jolly, jollyness. And this should be adjusted or minimized according to... Our real pleasure should be in bhajananandena. Radha-krsna-padaravinda-bhajananandena. In this way we have taken very serious job. In this life we want to finish this material existence for good. That should be the responsibility, that "We are going to finish this material existence for good. No more coming." Tyaktva deham punar janma naiti [Bg. 4.9]. If you take responsibility in that way, then everything will be adjusted. Serious. My Guru Maharaja used to say like that, that "Finish this business in this life. Don't delay for the next life." He was telling also that "Don't give me trouble again to come here to deliver you." That is the responsibility of spiritual master. Spiritual master responsibility is to take the disciple to Krsna, until he is able to do, to help him, to help him, to help him. That is the verdict of the sastras. Just like Bilvamangala Thakura. His spiritual master delivered him, taking the shape of a prostitute. So these stories are there.
We have to take responsibility. The first thing is that we have taken very, very responsible task, to finish this so-called lording over this material nature. The material life means everyone is trying to lord over the material nature, bhoga. And we cannot do that. That is not possible. Therefore we are in trouble. This very mentality, that "I shall lord it over..." Everyone in the material world... And so long this, "I shall serve Krsna, not lord it over..." Just the opposite. This is material mentality: "I shall lord it over." The whole world is struggling. Everyone is thinking, "I will lord it over. I shall be over everyone. My votes shall be the largest number. I shall become..." And our business is not to lord it over but to serve Krsna.
So the Visnuduta... We have to become Visnudutas. Our preachers are Visnudutas, just to give protection to any person who is slightly inclined to worship the Supreme Personality of Godhead. That is pancaratra-vidhi. We shall give all help, all assistance, to such persons. That is our business. It is not sleeping business, it is not lazying business. We should be always active. We shall always make plan, think how to protect this miserable condition of the material... They cannot understand. They are fools. They are rascals. So you have to give them knowledge. You have to give them help. That is missionary activity. Missionary activity is not laziness or sleeping. My Guru Maharaja used to say that prana ache yara sei hetu pracara, that "I have got some dozens of disciples, and I have got a temple, and people are contributing. Now I have got good arrangement for eating and sleeping. Now I am perfect. Because I am getting some food without any work, and honor, then I am perfect." This is not the mentality. Prana ache yara. You must be engaged continually for these missionary activity. The Gaudiya Mission has failed in preaching work because they adopted this principle. As soon as they got a little shelter under the name of Matha, or temple, and a few dozen of..., not few dozen, one dozen, then he is settled up there. Now he is bhajana, "Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna," showing that he is very great chanter. And what is your preaching? Lord Caitanya ordered you prthivite ache yata nagaradi. Why don't you go? How you are Indian?
Therefore my Guru Maharaja condemned this policy. Mana tumi kisera vaisnava: "What kind of Vaisnava you are?" Pratisthara tare nirjanera ghare: "And simply for cheap popularity, 'Oh, he is a Vaisnava. He is chanting. All right.' " Pratisthara tare nirjanera ghare tava hari..., nirjanera ghare. No botheration, because if there is no preaching, there is no botheration. You can sit down and show people, "I have now become a very liberated soul," and chant and meditate. That means sleeping. This sort of business is condemned by my Guru Maharaja. Pratisthara tare nirjanera ghare tava hari-nama kevala. This is simply cheating. He did not approve this kind of business. He did not approve. He wanted to see that everyone is engaged in preaching work, some sort of preaching work, either indoor or outdoor. When you are indoor you have to be busy writing articles for a magazine and proofread and so many things indoors. And outdoors you have to go door to door, make them members, make them interested in this movement, collect money for expenses, outdoor. Preaching, you have to meet opposing elements. So many will criticize, so many will attack. Nityananda Prabhu was hurt personally, but still, outdoor. This is missionary work, not that "Whenever I find some opportunity, go to some solitary place and sleep." This is not missionary life.
So we should adjust things, not that "All right, it is going on. That's all." You have got very responsible business, this Krsna consciousness. It is genuine, it is authorized, and Lord Caitanya wants us to do it all over the world. The things should be adjusted and keep us always alive to our self responsibility. That is missionary life, not to give away. (aside:) So it is working?
So I think we should now... Six-thirty, yes. You can have kirtana, another kirtana. Our business is very responsible.
Tamala Krsna: What song do you want us to sing, Prabhupada? (end)

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