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Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.8

Los Angeles, June 21, 1975
Prabhupada:
tasmat puraivasv iha papa-niskrtau
yateta mrtyor avipadyatatmana
dosasya drstva guru-laghavam yatha
bhisak cikitseta rujam nidanavit
[SB 6.1.8]
So the discussion is going on between Pariksit Maharaja and Sukadeva Gosvami. In the last portion of the Fifth Canto, Sukadeva Gosvami has given description of different hellish planets down this universe. There are many hellish planets. As there are heavenly planets, similarly there are hellish planets. Those who are pious, in the modes of goodness, they are promoted to the higher planetary system, and those who are very much abominable, condemned, they are degraded to the lower planetary system. There are different planets, and our modern scientists, they say that "Except this earthly planet, there is no life." This is their knowledge. But actually that is not the fact. Everywhere there is lifebut the life of different grades. Just like here also we see. In this planet some of them are very well situated, and some of them are very much degraded in every respect, by birth, janma aisvarya, by opulence, and by education, by beauty. There is such arrangement, by nature's law, that you are promoted or degraded. Prakrteh kriyamanani gunaih karmani sarvasah [Bg. 3.27]. In the Bhagavad-gita it is said that prakrti, we are under the guidance or rulings of material nature. That is It is not a fact that "We are independent," "There is no life after death." These are all foolish man's theory. We are eternal, there is life after death, and that life also has got different gradation. So this has been described, and this is the fact.
Now, Pariksit Maharaja, being Vaisnava, he became very much sympathetic with the persons who are degraded in the hellish planet. So his question was, "My dear sir," Sukadeva Gosvami his spiritual master, that "how these people could be saved from this hellish condition of life?" This is Vaisnava's concern. Vaisnava is not a pickpocket, that he will exploit others for his benefit. No. Para-duhkha-duhkhi. Vaisnava's business is: he is very unhappy by seeing others unhappy. Prahlada Maharaja said like that:
naivodvije para duratyaya-vaitaranyas
tvad-virya-gayana-mahamrta-magna cittah
soce tato vimukha-cetasa maya-sukhaya
bharam udvahato vimudhan
[SB 7.9.43]
Prahlada Maharaja, he said to Nrsimhadeva, "My Lord," na udvije, "I am not at all in anxiety." Na udvije. Para: "You are transcendental." Naivodvije para duratyaya-vaitaranyas. Duratyaya means very difficult to cross over. Vaitaranya, vaitarani, the nescience, ocean of nescience. "Why you are not afraid of?" Tvad-virya-gayana-mahamrta-magna cittah: "Because I am now Krsna conscious, and as soon as I hear the glories of Your wonderful activities, I become merged in it. So I have no problem." "Then you appear to be little unhappy. Why?" "No," soce, "I am very much aggrieved." "Why?" Tato vimukha-cetasa: "For these rascals who do not take to Krsna consciousness. I am thinking of them. Instead of taking to Krsna consciousness, they are busy in maya-sukhaya, maya, this temporary, little temporary happiness. They are making big, big program. He will live for fifty years, but he is making program for five millions of years. So I am...," soce, "I am actually lamenting for them." This is Vaisnava. Vaisnava is not very anxious or unhappy for his personal affair. He knows that "Everywhere I will be protected by Krsna," so he has no problem. Therefore real Vaisnava, he wants to deliver all these fallen souls from this miserable condition of life. So Pariksit Maharaja is Vaisnava. His first attention was drawn to the persons in the hellish planet. They are suffering. He questioned, "How they can be saved?" That is his concern. This is Vaisnava.
So Sukadeva Gosvami is answering. The spiritual master and disciple... First of all he wanted to test where is standing Pariksit Maharaja. So there are three kinds of processes for becoming free from these material clutches. One is karma, the other is jnana, or yoga, and the other is bhakti. So first of all Pariksit Maharaja was tested by Sukadeva Gosvami whether he is satisfied by the karma-kanda, or fruitive activities. Fruitive activities means that "I have done something wrong. So I go to the church and make some atonement and finished; then again I do." This is karma-kanda. Just like somebody has done something criminal. He says, "All right, never mind. I shall go to the court and pay some fine. That's all." So this is karma-kandiya-vicara. And nowadays, even karma-kandiya vicara, they are also not accepted. People have become so foolish. This karma-kandiya vicara, means action and reaction of the fruitive activities, they also do not believe that. This is the lowest grade. So here it is answered that "If you want to be saved from the sinful reaction of your life and put into the hellish condition, then you have to do like this." Tasmat pura eva asu iha papa-niskrtau. Tasmat: "Therefore, in order to become freed from the reaction of your sinful activities," papa-niskrtau, puraiva, pura eva asu, "before your death, as soon as possible, you should atone. You should counteract. Otherwise you will suffer very much." Just like a disease. A little disease, if you treat immediately, it may not increase to be a very problem, big problem disease. Canakya Pandita has instructed that three things we should be very careful: disease, fire, and debts. If there is disease, if you think, "Oh, this is little ailment. There is no need of going to the doctor," no, you must immediately take steps. It may increase to be a very big problem. Disease increases. Similarly fire. If there is fire, you have extinguished everything and little fire there is, if you think that "Oh, little fire, it will automatically...," no, that also you must extinguish. Otherwise it may take into big fire again. Similarly debts. If you don't clear your debts, if you think, "All right, there is some debts. It will...," no, interest, compound interest So similarly, the disease. We are already in the material disease. This birth, death, old age, and disease. This is our material miserable condition. And again, if we act sinfully, then it will increase. Therefore Sukadeva Gosvami is advising that "Before your death, you should atone for the sinful activities, what you have done." Just like in the Manu-samhita, if a man has committed some murder, it is advised that King should order him to be hanged. Otherwise next life he will have to suffer so much. So this order of hanging a murderer is a kind of kindness to the criminal.
So here it is advised that dosasya drstva guru-laghavam yatha [SB 6.1.8]. There are different kinds of sinful activities, and there are different kinds of suffering also. A little infection of bronchitis, the suffering is not so acute, but infection of smallpox is fatal. We should always remember that. We are infecting. On account of this material world, we are infecting different modes of material nature. I have explained several times. There are three modes of material nature, and when you mix up, then it becomes three into three equal to nine, and again mix up, nine into nine, eighty-one, and again mix up Every minute particles, there is account. You cannot avoid. Material nature's punishment you cannot avoid. Even little, whatever you have done, it will be punished. Automatically the rules and regulations are there. Karanam guna-sangah asya sad-asad-janma-yonisu. Why there are so different varieties of life if there is no some judgment behind it? There must be. Otherwise everyone should have been of the same bodily feature, same standard of life, same opulence. No. So many grades, because the modes of material nature are different, different mixture.
So here it is said that dosasya drstva guru-laghavam yatha [SB 6.1.8]. Dosa. Still people in India, they go to a bhattacarya, that "Sir, I have done this sinful activity. What is my atonement?" Amongst the Christian also, they go to the church. So guru-laghavam drstva. Guru means heavy. We use this word guru. Guru means heavy. So according to the criminal activities Just like a man has stolen some fruit from a fruit shop, his criminality is not equal to the man who has committed murderone he has killed one man. This is guru-laghavam. So there is punishment according to the heaviness and lightness of criminal activities. The example is given here: bhisak cikitseta rujam nidanavit. Just like you go to a physician for treatment of your disease, he gives different types of medicine. Not that one medicine for everyone. No. If one has got little headache, he gives one that tablet, aspirin tablet, but if it is pneumonia, then the treatment is different. That is being advised, that "One has to see what kind of sinful activity he has done and what is the atonement for that purpose." This is advised. Pariksit Maharaja was advised that "These people, they are suffering in different grades of suffering on account of different grades of sinful activities. So best thing is: before death, if they seek atonement for different grades of sinful activities, then it is good for him so that after death he may not suffer very severely." But people do not accept even that "There is life after death, we are eternal, and the infection which you are committing, that will react." There is no such knowledge. The modern civilization is so foolish. Simply like cats and dogs, they are eating and sleeping and sex life and little defense, that's all. They have no knowledge.
So therefore we are preaching Krsna consciousness. Lokasya ajanatah, they do not know what kind of risky life they are conducting. So the Krsna consciousness movement is trying to make them awakened to the consciousness. That is the duty of a sane man or a gentleman. That is the instruction of the Vedas, to awaken people. Uttisthata jagrata prapya varan nibodhata. This Vedic instruction is, to the human society, uttisthata: "Get up." Jagrata: "Don't sleep. Be awakened." Uttisthata jagrata prapya varan nibodhata. "You have got a boon. Try to understand it." Nibodhata. Prapya varan. Varan means benediction. What is that benediction? The benediction is this human form of life. You should understand that you are not cat and dog, simply you shall spoil your life by eating, sleeping, and sex and defense. No. This is very valuable life. Labdhva su-durlabham idam bahu-sambhavante. This is the instruction of Srimad-Bhagavatam. "No, don't spoil it. You have got this boon, this human form of life, after many, many births, evolutionary process. Don't you see so many different varieties of life? And you had to undergo through all these life. Now you have come to human form of life, so you should utilize it."
So that full utilization is how to become Krsna conscious. That we shall come, one after another. This karma-kandiya vicara, this will not help us. That will be discussed in the next verse. Neither the mental speculation will help us. Unless we come to the platform of bhakti and fully surrender to Krsna and take to Krsna consciousness business, it is very, very difficult. We will have to continue. In many places, sastra, it is said.
Nunam pramattah: "The people have become mad." And why? Kurute vikarma. "They are acting adversely, against the principle of life." Vikarma. Karma, vikarma. Karma means to act according to the injunction of the sastra, and vikarma means to act against. Then you suffer. So vikarma. Nunam pramattah kurute vikarma [SB 5.5.4]. Now, why they are doing? Because they are mad, pramattah. What for mad? Yad indriya-pritaya: "Simply for sense gratification." There is no other profit. A temporary sense gratification. They are acting so sinfully. So Rsabhadeva says, na sadhu manye: "This is not good." Why? Yata atmano 'yam: "Because you have got already this material body, this temporary body." So "That's all right. I have got this temporary body. It will be finished." No. Asann api klesada: "Although it is temporary, so long you will possess this material body, you will have to suffer so many suffering, threefold miseries." So they don't care for it because illiterate. Not illiterateignorant. Literary knowledge is not sufficient. There must be real knowledge. The real knowledge you will get from the Vedas. Tad-vijnanartham sa gurum evabhigacchet [MU 1.2.12]. Real knowledge you will get from guru, from Krsna. Evam parampara-praptam [Bg. 4.2]. That is real knowledge. Otherwise, anything has got some knowledge, that knowledge is not sufficient.
So the Srimad-Bhagavatam is full of knowledge. It is specially compiled by Vyasadeva to help the foolish human society and save him from all kinds of miserable condition of life.
Thank you very much. (end)

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