For instance, that, when in the Battlefield of Kuruksetra, fighting was going on between Krsna and Bhisma, both of them... Krsna, of course, did not touch any weapon because He promised. But Grandfather Bhisma was very severely piercing Krsna's body with arrows, and Krsna was enjoying. That is the relationship between Krsna and His devotees. Krsna can be worshiped, Krsna can be loved, by any capacity. The gopis loved Krsna out of seemingly lust, lusty desires, and Sisupala remembered Krsna out of anger. Kamat krodhad bhayat. And Kamsa remembered always Krsna out of fear. And, of course, they were not devotees. Devotees means they should be always favorably disposed to Krsna. Not inimical. But Krsna is so kind, even somebody is disposed to Him in an inimical attitude, he also gets salvation. For example, Kamsa, Dantavakra, Sisupala, Hiranyakasipu, Ravana. They were not friendly. Still, because they thought of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, consciousness were there, but it was unfavorable. Bhakti means favorable. Anukulyena krsnanusilanam [Cc. Madhya 19.167]. Favorably. That is bhakti. And pratikulyena, just in the opposite way, thinking of Krsna in inimical way, that is also accepted by Krsna. Krsna is so kind. Anyone who thinks of Krsna always, he is the greatest yogi. So even the enemies who think of Krsna always, although unfavorably, he becomes a yogi because thinking of Krsna.

Therefore the result of yogic performances are achieved by the inimical personalities. In the impersonal Brahman effulgence, not only the highly learned scholars who are trying to attain brahma-jnana, they enter, but also the enemies who are unfavorably thinking of Krsna, they also enter into that spiritual kingdom, impersonal effulgence, nirvisesa-brahmajyoti. Therefore a devotee's position is different from the jnanis', impersonalists'. Because the destination which is achieved by the jnanis is also achieved by the enemies of Krsna. So that is not a very high position. Therefore devotees' position is very exalted. They do not... They go through the impersonal effulgence of Brahman, but they are not attracted. They are attracted in the Vaikuntha planets, Goloka Vrndavana planets, where the Supreme Personality of Godhead lives eternally with His associates.

So the effect of chanting the holy name of Narayana was immediately visible in the person of Ajamila. Although he was so much sinfully absorbed, because he uttered the name of his boy, whose name was Narayana,

So at the time of death... Of course, those who are devotees, their position is different. People may say, "The devotee is also dying, and the nondevotee, sinful man, is also dying. What is the difference?" So there is much difference. The example is given: just like a cat catching a rat in his mouth and at the same time carrying his cubs in the mouth. Superficially, we can see that the same mouth is being used, but one is feeling comfortable being carried by the mother, and another is feeling the death knell. Similarly, at the time of death, the devotee's feeling that they are being transferred to Vaikuntha, whereas the ordinary sinful man is feeling that the Yamaraja, the dutas, the constables of Yamaraja are dragging him to the hellish condition of life. So one should not conclude simply by seeing that he is dying. No. The process is different. Janma karma ca me divyam [Bg. 4.9]. As Lord Krsna's appearance and disappearance are all spiritual, transcendental, they are not ordinary things, similarly, Lord Krsna's devotee, His representative, who is sent to this material world for preaching the glories of Lord Krsna, their appearance and disappearance is also like Krsna's. Therefore, according to Vaisnava principles, the appearance and disappearance of Vaisnava is considered all-auspicious. Therefore we hold festivals. Just like yesterday we had the disappearance day of His Divine Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Prabhupada. So we offered our respects and observed a festival, Avirbhava, Tirobhava. Tirobhava.

Actually the living entity has no birth or death, and what to speak of Krsna or His devotee. Krsna is the chief living entity of all living entities. Nityo nityanam cetanas cetananam (Katha Upanisad 2.2.13). He is also a living entity. Sometimes the atheist class of men say, "God is dead." The rascals, they do not know that even a small living entity does not die. How Krsna can be dead or God can be dead? Mudha. Therefore these classes of men are described in the Bhagavad-gita as mudha, rascals. They do not know anything; still, they pose themselves as very learned and utter something which is neither good for them nor for the public.

So in this way, dure kridanakasaktam putram narayanahvayam, plavitena svarena, very appealing voice, he began to ask his youngest son, "Please come here. I am dying." He was very much afraid of the three Yamadutas who were..., who came there to drag him.

So that practice is required. Simply by... Mahato bhayat. Here it is also said, nisamya mriyamanasya mukhato hari-kirtanam. The hari-kirtana is so glorious. If anyone at the time of death, mriyamana, mriyamana, one who is just dying... In a Bengali proverb it is said, parable, bhajan koro sadhan koro murte janle haya: "Whatever you do, spiritual activities, they will be tested at the time of death." All your chants that you are practicing, this will be tested at the time of death. If you can remember Krsna, Hare Krsna, hari-kirtana, at the time of death, then you are successful. So Krsna is so kind, that immediately after hearing that the dying man was chanting Hare Krsna or Narayana, the same thing... Bhartur nama parsadah.

The narayana-sena, the assistants of Lord Narayana, they are also looking like Narayana. They have also got four hands. In the Vaikuntha planets the residents are also exactly of the same feature of Narayana. Just like in this planet the king and the citizens have the same feature of bodytwo hands, two legs... [break] The same bodily feature. There are five kinds of mukti, liberation: sarupya, salokya, samipya, sarsti. Sarsti liberation is not accepted by the devotees. Not sarsti; sarupya. And those who are devotees of Krsna, they do not accept any one of these liberations. Although, by the mercy of Krsna, they are elevated to the planet Goloka Vrndavana, but from their part they do not wish any kind of liberation. They simply want to serve the Lord. And Bhaktivinoda Thakura says that "I may take birth in a family as an ant where there are devotees," because in the house of a devotee, the ants also, by eating the remnants of the foodstuff of the devotee, becomes liberated. A devotee's position is so great, a pure devotee. Anyabhilasita-sunyam jnana-karmady-anavrtam [Brs. 1.1.11].

Kasya va kuta ayatah kasmad asya nisedhatha: "Who are you, my dear sirs? Why you are forbidding us? What is the purpose of this forbidding?"

Now they are describing,

All right. Now have... [break] There are five kinds of devotees, liberation. Any one. There are varieties in the spiritual kingdom also, the five kinds of liberation, any one of them. Mayavadi philosophers, they know only one kind of liberation, sayujya-mukti, to merge into the existence of brahmajyoti. That much they know. Or they know... They prefer this kind of liberation, to become with the Supreme. That is taste. But devotees, they do not like. They want to keep their individuality.