Maya-javanikacchannam ajna... These materialistic persons, they are ajna, means they have no sufficient knowledge. Unless one develops the light of knowledge, sattva-guna... Sattva-guna is the light of knowledge. Rajo-guna and tamo-guna is darkness. Ignorance and passion. In this stage one cannot understand what is Krsna, what is God. Ajna. Rajas-tamo-bhavah [SB 1.2.19]. As we have discussed in Bhagavad, Srimad-Bhagavatam, rajas-tamo-bhavah, those who are infected with the two kinds of material modes, means rajo-guna and tamo-guna, they are simply busy, kama and lobha. They are busy only... Those who are passionate, they are simply busy for sense gratification, and those who are in ignorance, in darkness, they have no eyes to see.

So these two classes of men... Mostly people are infected with these two kinds of modes of material nature. Rajas-tamas. The whole world. At the present moment, especially, mostly ignorance, and some of them are passionate. That passionate tendency is engaging them for so many industries and very, very strong work, ugra-karma. Ugra-karma. Ugra-karma means very strong...? What is, should be the English word? Ugra... Ugra, just like chili, pungent. There are many things. They are very strong in taste. So ugra-karma, these... Just like they are building hundred-and-fifty-story building. People can live comfortably in a small cottage or one-storied house or little more. But no, they're increasing. Their passionate activities are increasing. Just like in your country, in New York, now there is hundred-and-four-storied building, or more than that. Some building?

Now, if we say that "You are all foolish, rascal people. You are wasting your time in this way," they will think us crazy. And they think us like that, that we do not recommend these things. So it is very, very difficult to understand Krsna in this condition, in this situation. Maya-javanikacchannam and ajna, foolish people. Ajna. And the other, other side, Krsna is adhoksaja. Even one is advanced in knowledge... Knowledge means, our knowledge means we manufacture words or syllables from A to Z. That's all. ABCD. We compose words with these twenty-six, or how many? A to Z?

So our mental speculation and advancement of education is limited between this a and ksa, aksa. Aksa-ja. But Krsna is adhoksaja. Adhoksaja means where these kinds of speculation, beginning from a to ksa, will not act. Therefore His name is Adhoksaja. Adhah krta, cut down. (aside:) Why they are going? They are busy in some other work? Eh? Ugra-karma. Without hearing, what he will do, nonsense? Sravanam kirtanam, this is our main business. Sravanam. If you don't hear, what you will do? You will do simply sense gratification. That's all.

So this is difficulty, that we are not very much interested in hearing. And that is the main business. Our bhakti begins: sravanam kirtanam visnoh [SB 7.5.23]. We have to hear and we have to speak. But if we are not interested in hearing and speak, then it will be the same thakura-bari(?), simply formula. That's all. And gradually it will be stopped. Unless there is life of sravanam kirtanam, these big, big buildings, temples, will become burden. So if we are, if we want to create burden for future, then we may give up this hearing and chanting and sleep very nicely. It will be burden. Galagraha. Not sri-vigraha, but galagraha. Galagraha. Sri-vigraha means worshipable Deity. So if we give up this sravanam kirtanam visnoh, then it will be thought that "Our Guru Maharaja has given a burden in the neck, galagraha." This is the danger. So we must be very much alert in sravanam kirtanam. Otherwise all this labor will be futile. This building will be only the nest, nest for the doves and the pigeons. That is the danger. That is being done. Nobody is interested. Such, such things...

Now, who is, who can understand Krsna? There are so many impediments. One side, there is curtain of maya; another side, everyone is a rascal and fool; and another side, Krsna is beyond your sense perception. This is the position. How much one must be alert. Then one can understand. Just like the Gosvamis. Is Krsna is so easy thing to be understood? But there is process. So if we do not adopt the process, then how we can understand Krsna? These are the so many difficult things. One side, one thing is the maya is checking. Maya is trying to put stumbling block for your advancement of spiritual life. Maya-javanikacchannam. And the other side, we are all fools and rascals. And the, again, Krsna is adhoksaja, beyond the range of sense perception. This is the position.

So unless we become very serious to understand Krsna, it is very, very difficult to understand Krsna. Maya-javanikacchannam. On the one side, Kunti says, antar bahir avasthitam: "Krsna, You are within..." Isvarah sarva-bhutanam hrd-dese [Bg. 18.61]. Krsna is not far away. Krsna is always with you. He, He's so friendly that just like two birds... It is said in the Upanisads: the one bird is eating the fruit of the tree; another bird is simply guiding and seeing. Because this material world, living entity wanted to enjoy. Just like you have seen that the dog and the master. The master is so friendly to the dog out of love. It is a dog, but when it is passing stool, he's waiting. Why? Is the duty of the master to wait because the dog is passing stool? No. Out of love. Out of love. We can see from practical example. Similarly... The master may be a great millionaire, but still, he loves the dog so much that on the morning walk he takes his dog and the dog is passing urine... What, what business dog has got? To pass urine and stool and go this way and that way. But the master is attending. Similarly, God, or Krsna, is so affectionate that we have come here in this material world simply to pass stool and urine, still He's attending. Still, He's attending. Just imagine what merciful is Krsna.

In the Upanisads it is said that two birds... The one bird is Paramatma. Krsna has become Paramatma. It is stated in the Bhagavad-gita that ksetra-ksetrajna. There are two things. One is this ksetra, this body. Ksetra, just the field. Just like we are tilling the field. And the tiller, the krsana. Similarly, we are, we have got this field, and we are growing our own, harvesting our own grains. Just like you are doing. So according to our labor, according to our attempt, we are getting food grains. Similarly, we have got this body, and I am, the spirit soul is the tiller. So according to my karma, I am getting the result. So similarly... Not only I am there, but Krsna is also there. He's seeing what you are doing, what you are doing, what you want more. Sarvasya caham hrdi sannivistah [Bg. 15.15]. Krsna says, "I am sitting in everyone's heart." Why? "Just to give him the facilities. This rascal living being has come to the material world to till the field to get some result. All right. Let him do that." Just like children play on the beach, do all nonsense, and the father sees, "All right, you have finished your business? Come on." So Krsna is like that. He is simply seeing. We are acting so nonsensically, and Krsna is giving us... The same way, a dog passing stool and urine, the master is attending. Or the father is seeing. The children are playing on the beach. They're making big, big house on the sand, and it has nothing, no value, but Krs..., the father is giving the opportunity, "All right, do it."

So Krsna is giving us all the facilities, but we are so fool that we cannot understand that Krsna is so friendly. That is... It is said, na laksyase mudha-drsa [SB 1.8.19]. They cannot see. Because mudha-drsa. Mudha means rascal, and drsa... Drsa means seeing. They have no power to see. A mudha cannot see. Rascals, they cannot see. They are very much proud: "Can you show me God?" But they do not think, "Whether I am qualified to see?" They are very much proud of these eyes. What is the value of this eye? Therefore Krsna says, "Yes, you can see Me, but according to My direction. You see Me: raso 'ham apsu kaunteya [Bg. 7.8]. You can see. It is very easy for you. You see Me in the water. While you taste, while you drink water, you see Me. I am the taste." So you are, everyone drinks water, and we get some taste. Otherwise why he's drinking water. So that taste, if you remember that "Here is Krsna," simply by tasting water, simply by drinking water, if you follow Krsna's instruction, one day you'll be a devotee. Krsna is so kind. Simply by drinking water. Simply we have to know how to see Krsna.

Therefore Kuntidevi says, na laksyase mudha-drsa [SB 1.8.19]. The mudha, the rascal, is so foolish... Krsna says that "You see Me in the taste of water," but these rascals: "Hah! This is humbug. This is humbug. How, in the taste, Krsna is there? I want to see in my own eyes." But you haven't got that eyes. Just develop your eyes gradually. Just like one is suffering from some eye disease. So take some medicine, then gradually, your eyesight will be improved. Take the spectacle, some power, then more power, more power. So... But they'll not take the instruction of Krsna, the instruction of spiritual master. So they want to remain mudha-drsa, rascal and fool. And still they want to see Krsna. This is the difficulty. Na laksyase mudha-drsa [SB 1.8.19]. If you do not improve your eyes according to the direction of sastra..., sadhu-sastra-guru, these three things, then how you'll see Krsna? Krsna is saying. That is sastra. Sastra means what is said by the Supreme Personality of Godhead. That is sastra. And guru. Guru says the same thing. And sadhu says the same thing.

Sadhu-guru test means they do not change the words of Krsna. They do not say, "Now I have manufactured something. Krsna says that 'You can see Me in the taste of water.' I can say that you can see in this way: 'You see me and you will see Krsna.' " Just (as) the Mayavadi says, "You think of me." In the Aurobindo Ashram, there they have no other business. The disciples are advised that "Whatever you like, you can do. You should always think of Aurobindo." Just like Krsna says, man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru [Bg. 18.65]. I inquired from the inmates of the Aurobindo Ashram. So I (inquired,) "What do you do?" "That we think of Aurobindo." They are... Because Aurobindo thinks that he is Krsna. As Krsna says, man-mana bhava mad-bhaktah, so they advise that "You think of me." So the inmates, they think and smoke bidi and cigarette. That's all. I have seen it. So these things are going on. Mudha-drsa. If we want to remain mudha-drsa, then it will be difficult for us to see Krsna. We have dedicated our life to see Krsna, to talk with Krsna, to play with Krsna, to have Krsna as our son, to have Krsna as our friend, to Krsna as our lover. If this is our ambition, then we should not remain a mudha-drsa, foolishly...

So we have to follow the mahajano yena gatah... As Kunti's advising. Kunti is, she knows how to see Krsna. She knows, "Here is Krsna. Although He's playing the part of my brother's son, nephew, but actually, He's the Supreme Personality of Godhead." Just like Arjuna. Arjuna, he was talking like friend, but when he saw that "It is impossible to solve this problem... I am inclined not to fight and kill my relatives, but the duty is to kill them..." It is a very perplexed position. So therefore he accepted Krsna as guru. He said that "I do not find anyone else who can solve my, this problem. Therefore Krsna, I am surrendering unto You." Sisyas te 'ham sadhi mam prapannam [Bg. 2.7]. "Now we are not talking as friends. I accept You as guru." When one accepts somebody as guru, he cannot argue. That is the condition. Pranipatena, sampurna, fully surrendered. Otherwise there is no meaning of making a guru. It is not like that, a pet dog, that "Everyone makes guru, and let me guru, let me have a guru." But that is not the... Guru means first of all the condition is pranipata, fully surrendered. Not that "If I like, then I shall carry your order. And if I don't like, then I shall not do it." That is not acceptance of guru. Pranipata. First of all, we must agree. So because friends and friends talking... A friend may agree with his friend. He may not agree with... That is friendly talk. But Arjuna became sisyas te 'ham: "I am now Your sisya, disciple. Now there is no question of disagreeing with You. Whatever You'll say, I will accept." So at last Krsna said, "Surrender unto Me." And Arjuna did it. That is the whole purpose of Bhagavad-gita. He changed his decision. He changed. He did not want to fight. That was his decision. But when he accepted Krsna as guru and He said that "You must fight. It is my desire. Even you don't find these people are not going back home, they will be killed here, that is my already plan..."

So these things are discussed in the Bhagavad-gita. So if we remain mudha-drsa, in spite of opening our eyes in so many ways by Krsna, by guru, by sastra, if still, if we remain mudha-drsa, then how we can see Krsna? That is not possible. Therefore it is said, na laksyase mudha-drsa: [SB 1.8.19] "If we keep our eyes still mudha, illusioned, then we cannot see You." How? Nato natyadharo yatha. Exactly... Krsna... Just like one of my relatives, he is playing before me, but because I am mudha-drsa, my eyesight or my intelligence is not correct, I am seeing that somebody else... I see that my relative, my brother or father or friend, is dancing on the stage, but he is dressed in such a way that in spite of being present in my front, I cannot recognize. So if we remain mudha-drsa, then we cannot see Krsna. Otherwise Krsna is everywhere. Akhilatma-bhutah. In the Brahma-samhita it said, goloka eva nivasaty akhilatma-bhutah [Bs. 5.37]. Although He's living in Goloka Vrndavana, He's everywhere. Then how can I see? Premanjana-cchurita-bhakti-vilocanena santah sadaiva hrdayesu vilokayanti [Bs. 5.38]. Those who have developed love for Krsna, they can see always, twenty-four hours, Krsna and nothing but Krsna. This is the process.

So we have to increase our attachment, our love for Krsna. Mayy asakta-manah partha yogam yunjan mad-asrayah. The... This is also explained. Everything is there. Mayy asakta. We have to increase our attachment for Krsna, our love of Krsna. Then we shall see Krsna always.

So the... It is the process. During lecture time, if we don't care to hear or we do other things or take rest, that is not very good sign. We should be very much careful. Then we shall remain mudha-drsa. Nato natyadharo yatha. We have taken the vow to see Krsna or to understand Krsna. We should be very, very serious and do the needful. Then our life will be successful.

Thank you very much. Hare Krsna. (end)