...directly taking shelter of Krsna or to take shelter of a pure devotee who is under the shelter of Krsna. Mad-asrayah. So if one takes shelter of a pure devotee... Just like electricity: the powerhouse is far away, but the power is coming. Suppose your body is electrified, and if I touch, then my body immediately becomes electrified. And if somebody touches me, then other's body. This is electric. Similarly, one who is pure devotee, he's authorized by Krsna, he's electrified.

So if one takes shelter of a pure devotee, then he becomes purified. Yad-apasrayasrayah sudhyanti. That is the statement given by Sukadeva Gosvami. How the candalas can become purified? The example I have already stated. Then at the end, Sukadeva Gosvami says, prabhavisnave namah. This is the supreme transcendental power of Visnu. He can do. Sometimes they say that unless the body is changed, how a candala can become purified? Yes, body is changing. Because we do not know how the body is changing... Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita, tatha dehantara-praptih. Dehantara-praptih. Dehino 'smin yatha dehe kaumaram yauvanam jara tatha [Bg. 2.13], like that. Tatha means "like that." Dehantara-praptih. So these are dehantara. Dehino 'smin yatha dehe kaumaram yauvanam jara. This is dehantara. Every moment we are changing our body. This is dehantara. Krsna says, the greatest authority. How you can say that there is no dehantara? He has dehantara. Suppose in my childhood I am born in a candala family, but if by initiation, by taking shelter of a pure devotee, I become initiated, so dehantara is there, going on. So if I take initiation seriously, so in the next dehantara... Suppose yesterday I was a candala. Now by this time there is dehantara, and if I am purified by initiation... So this argument... Dehantara, is already there. Scientifically, in modern understanding, and on the authority of Krsna's statement, dehantara is going on. Not that somebody was European or... We take Europeans as mlecchas or yavanas. Yes, he was yesterday mleccha and yavanas, but he has changed his body, and after changing if he's initiated, then dehantara. Sudhyanti, he's purified. Sudhyanti.

So how this is possible, if we cannot understand... Because Lord Visnu's energy is inconceivable. Inconceivable, acintya. Srila Jiva Gosvami has discussed. Unless you accept acintya-sakti of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, you cannot understand. You have to accept. It is acintya, inconceivable, by us. But it is not inconceivable by the advanced devotees. Or anything being executed by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, it is not inconceivable by Him. Svabhaviki jnana-bala-kriya ca. He's so perfect in knowledge that what we are thinking inconceivable, that is very, very easily done with full knowledge by the Supreme Personality of Godhead. So what is inconceivable by us, it is not inconceivable by Him. Therefore we have to learn it from,

We use this word "omnipotency," but we do not know actually what is that omnipotency. Omnipotency means He has got diverse energies. That is omnipotency. And we do not know by which energy He's acting in a particular case. But this is a fact, that His energy is working. And He says also in the Bhagavad-gita directly, mayadhyaksena prakrtih suyate sa-caracaram [Bg. 9.10]. Mayadhyaksena, "Under My supervision prakrti is acting." So how prakrti is directed, how Krsna is directing prakrti to make a nice flower... Just like here, they're painting flower on the wall. It takes so much time, so much arrangement. Still, it is not as good as a natural flower. Here you have painted one rose flower, and here are roses. There is art also, and here is art also. Without art, without artistic sense, how this nice thing, beautiful thing, can come in? You'll find a beautiful flower bloom in a plant, you appreciate it. And don't think, as the rascal says, "By nature it has come automatically." No. The same energy as you are taking, you are applying your energy to paint a flower on the wall with your paints and brushes... But Krsna is also doing that, but His energy is so inconceivable that we cannot see how He's working. But He's working. Otherwise why Krsna says, mayadhyaksena prakrtih: [Bg. 9.10] "Prakrti is working under My direction"? Is it a bluff? No. Actually prakrti is acting under His direction.

It is confirmed in the Brahma-samhita,

So this material nature is nothing but machine. It is not God. Those who are with poor fund of knowledge, they are taking directly this material nature as working. No. Material nature has no power to act. It is dull. The same example, the computer. It is a very nice machine, but it cannot work automatically unless an expert pushes the button. So material nature cannot do anything. It is Krsna's direction. So in everywhere there is Krsna's direction. One who has got the eyes to see, for him, krsna-kathodayam. Whatever he sees, he remembers Krsna.

So anyone who takes in that way, mukti-pade sa daya-bhak: his going back to home, back to Godhead, is guaranteed. Because he takes everything as Krsna's mercy. Just like Prahlada Maharaja. Prahlada Maharaja was so much chastised by his father. You know how he was put into difficulty so many ways. But he was taking, "This is Krsna's mercy." He did not take otherwise. So in this way wherever... Everywhere there is Krsna's hand, so what to speak of this battlefield or any other thing. So we should not take otherwise, that "This the best part and this is the lowest part." No. Wherever there is Krsna directly. Krsna is everywhere, but we cannot see. But at least in Mahabharata, in Srimad-Bhagavatam, in Krsna's dealing with the Pandavas, the Krsna's hand is there. That is Krsna's desire. [break] ...it is not like that. One who is advanced, one who is actually in knowledge, they will take krsna-kathodayam. Wherever Krsna's katha is there, it is as good as any other. That is the way of... Thank you very much. (end)