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The Nectar of Devotion

Vrndavana, October 21, 1972
Prabhupada:...meeting, that just now I have received one newspaper cutting. This is from South Africa. What is the city's name?
Devotee (1): Durban, Durban.
Prabhupada: Durban. So these two young gosvamis, they are preaching very successfully in South Africa. And another news I have got. Where it is from...?
Devotee (1): From Satsvarupa...
Devotee (2): Midwest.
Prabhupada: Midwest of America. Another two gosvamis, they are having very successful meeting in midwest America. The, in South Africa, they're, boys... What is the age of Rsi Kumara?
Devotee (1): Twenty.
Devotee (2): Twenty.
Prabhupada: Yes. His age is only twenty years. Rsi Kumara Gosvami left and Haridasa brahmacari. They have come to South Africa to spread the word, "Krsna message for S.A." South Africa. So by the grace of Lord Caitanya, the message of His Lordship is going on nicely all over the world. And you are also members of the Society. Try to preach this message. Prthivite ache yata nagaradi grama. And you will get strength. The more you preach. Because in the Bhagavad-gita, the Lord says,
Anyone who is preaching the message of Lord Caitanya or Lord Krsna, the same thing... There is no difference. Krsna said that sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. This is Krsna's. Krsna's message. And Lord Caitanya says, yare dekha tare kaha krsna upadesa [Cc. Madhya 7.128]. So there is no difference. Krsna's upadesa is to everyone that everyone should give up all nonsense type of occupation... Kamais tais tair hrta-jnanah yajante anya-devatah [Bg. 7.20]. Those who are attached to the worship of demigods, they have been condemned by Krsna: hrta-jnanah. Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura has commented on this word, hrta-jnanah: nasta-buddhayah, "those who have lost their all intelligence." So our Krsna consciousness movement is preaching the same as Lord Krsna said and as Lord Caitanya said. Lord Krsna said that "You surrender." He asked everyone, not only Arjuna. Through Arjuna, He spoke to everyone. Kaunteya pratijanihi na me bhaktah pranasyati [Bg. 9.31]. He was preaching His own word through Arjuna. And Caitanya Mahaprabhu, He's Krsna Himself. He's preaching the same message as devotee. So our business is to preach this same message through the mercy of Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu says, yare dekha tare kaha krsna upadesa [Cc. Madhya 7.128]. So if we follow Caitanya Mahaprabhu...
To follow Caitanya Mahaprabhu means to follow the six Gosvamis. This is called parampara system. Evam parampara-praptam imam rajarsayoh viduh [Bg. 4.2]. If we follow the parampara system... The same message, what Krsna said, that is also said by Caitanya Mahaprabhu, that is also said by the Gosvamis. Sri Rupa Gosvami says, yena tena prakarena manah krsna nivesayet. Somehow or other, try to induce people to become Krsna conscious. This is Gosvami's, Rupa Gosvami's message. Where you are sitting, this is Rupa Gosvami's place. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu also says the same thing. Yare dekha tare kaha krsna upadesa [Cc. Madhya 7.128]. So these boys, Rsi Kumara Gosvami and others, Satsvarupa Gosvami, Hrdayananda Gosvami, they're preaching the mes..., same message, Krsna message. In the paper: "Krsna message in South Africa." "Krsna message in South Africa." This is very encouraging, that Krsna message is being spread as Caitanya Mahaprabhu desired. Yare dekha tare kaha krsna upadesa [Cc. Madhya 7.128]. This is very encouraging. So all of you... Of course, Caitanya Mahaprabhu entrusted the matter to all Indians, especially.
The best welfare activity is spreading this Krsna consciousness movement. So it was entrusted to the, to all Indians. Any Indian who has taken birth as human being, it is the duty of him to spread Krsna consciousness. But anyway, although there is only one Indian, (laughter) you follow, and, and spread this message extensively. After this urja-vrata, you'll also spread this Krsna consciousness move..., message.
The Krsna consciousness message is krsnas tu bhagavan svayam [SB 1.3.28]. There is no other Bhagavan. Bhagavan means full of six opulences. So Krsna is completely, cent percent full of all opulences. Even Narayana, He is ninety-six percent. And Lord Siva is eighty-four percent. And Brahma is seventy-eight percent. These are calculated by the Gosvamis. So Krsna is cent percent Bhagavan. And Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita, mattah parataram nanyat [Bg. 7.7]. Nanyat. Nobody. So simply you have to... Just like our little girl, Sarasvati, she also preaches. She goes to some friend. She asks, "Do you know what is Krsna?" If he says "No, I do not know very much." So she says, "The Supreme Personality of Godhead." That's all. This is preaching. It is not difficult. Simply, just like the child, you go everyone, talk to everyone that "Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead." That's all. Everyone can do it. It is not very difficult. You believe it. You be convinced on the statement that Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Isvarah paramah krsnah [Bs. 5.1].
Isvara means controller, governor. So there are governors, many governors in your country, but there are not supreme governor. Everyone is governor. You are also governor, or isvara, controller. But not the supreme controller. Our message is that here in this material world, there are many controllers, many governors, many isvaras, but nobody is the supreme isvara. Supreme isvara means He has no controller over Him. He has no controller over Him. He's the supreme controller. Here, everyone is controller, but he has got another controller over him. But even big, big demigods... Just like Indra, Candra, Surya, Vayu, Varuna, they have also controller. Even Lord Brahma. He's also controlled. Only Krsna or Krsna-tattva, Visnu-tattva, He's not controlled. He's the supreme controller. So,
This is our message. So read. Why don't you keep open? No. There is no other copy? Go on. Go on. Read. [break]
Pradyumna: "...in bhakti-rasa can be understood by a serious student upon studying The Nectar of Devotion. Adoption of bhakti-rasa, or Krsna consciousness, will immediately bring one to an auspicious life, free from anxieties, and will bless one with transcendental existence, thus minimizing the value of liberation. Bhakti-rasa itself is sufficient to produce a feeling of liberation because it attracts the attention of the Supreme Lord, Krsna."
Prabhupada: Yes. People generally think that liberation is the ultimate goal or the full achievement. But liberation is a very insignificant thing in the presence of devotional service. Therefore Bhagavata says, dharmah projjhita-kaitavah atra. Dharma artha kama moksa [SB 4.8.41, Cc. Adi 1.90]. Moksa means liberation. So Bhagavata says that dharma artha kama moksa, they are thrown away from the study of Srimad-Bhagavatam. And Sridhara Swami confirms it: atra moksa-vancah-paryantam nirastam. A devotee is above the point of liberation. The devotional service is called pancama-purusartha. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu has given His opinion: prema pumartho mahan. Not dhara is pumarthah. Our ultimate goal of life is neither dharma, or artha, religiosity, economic development, kama, sense gratification, and moksa, liberation.
So people are very busy for economic development. They think that is the highest goal of life. To get money somehow or other; and then, after getting money, to satisfy the senses. And when they are defeated in satisfying senses, defeated... Defeated means everyone is trying to satisfy his senses to the greatest extent. Unfortunately, maya will now allow him to do so. Daivi hy esa gunamayi mama maya duratyaya [Bg. 7.14]. Therefore Bhagavata says, parabhavas tavad abodha-jatah. Parabhavah. The karmis who are trying to satisfy their senses to the highest limit, they are being defeated. It cannot be. Nobody's satisfied with the senses, to the greatest extent. In Europe and America, this can very practically experienced. Many, many, old, very rich men, seventy-five years old, seventy years old, they're still going to the club for satisfying the senses. That means the sense satisfaction business cannot be completely done even to the point of death.
There are many stories. We have got practical experience that Akbar Shah inquired from his, one of his very confidential ministers that "How long a man is sexually inclined?" So the minister replied that "Up to the point of death." He replied. The Akbar did not believe it. But the minister sometimes took him to a man who was goi..., just going to die, and the minister requested Akbar Shah to get with him his young daughter. So when the Akbar Shah and his daughter was entering, the man on the death bed, he was looking to the young girl, not to the Akbar. So he pointed out, "Just see." And he was convinced, "Yes." So the sex life is so strong that you cannot be satisfied. If you re..., remain in material existence, then this sex desire will never be satisfied. But it can be satisfied only when you come to Krsna consciousness. This Yamunacarya has said,
yad-avadhi mama cetah krsna-padaravindayoh
nava-nava-(rasa)-dhamany (udyatam) rantum asit
tad-avadhi bata nari-sangame smaryamane
bhavati mukha-vikarah susthu nisthivanam ca
Sri Yamunacarya says, "Since I have been engaged in serving the lotus feet of Krsna, from that time I do not any more have any desire for sex life. Even if I do remember of sex life, I want to spite on it." So this is the result. Krsna is Madana-Mohana. Madana-Mohana. Madana, Cupid, he agitates everyone for sex life. But if we actually be attached to see the beauty of Krsna then we shall never be enamored by the arrows of Cupid. Param drstva nivartate [Bg. 9.59]. So... What is the subject matter?
Pradyumna: "...thus minimizing the value of liberation."
Prabhupada: So this is the position of the materialistic person. Therefore sometimes they take to the path of rejection, giving up. Brahma satyam jagan mithya. They come, by knowledge, by advancement of knowledge. But sometimes that also becomes failure. Even liberation. I have several times explained that many persons on the platform of liberation also falls down. Aruhya krcchrena param padam tatah patanty adhah anadrta-yusmad-anghrayah [SB 10.2.32]. One who does not take shelter of the lotus feet of Krsna, even he is raised to the platform of liberation, there is chance of fall down. Aruhya krcchrena param padam. Param padam means liberation, not material platform, but param padam. spiritual platform. Spiritual platform means liberation. So unless one is attached to... Aruhya krcchrena param padam tatah patanty adhah [SB 10.2.32], why they fall down? Anadrta-yusmad-anghrayah. One who neglects to worship the lotus feet of Krsna, even he is on the liberation platform, mukti, there is chance of falling down. And there are many examples. Go on.
Pradyumna: "Bhakti-rasa itself is sufficient to produce a feeling a liberation because it attracts the attention of the Supreme Lord, Krsna."
Prabhupada: Yes. As soon as you are engaged in the service, loving service of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, immediately you feel liberation. This is practically. When you are fully engaged in Krsna consciousness, even if you walk on the street, you'll feel that "I am separate from these persons. I am in a, I am walking on a different path." This is the feeling. Bhaktih paresanubhavah. This is bhakti. Paresanubhava. You'll anubha..., you will experience yourself. That is the test. If you experience yourself that "I am different from these persons," then where is the attachment for material things? So that is the test; how much you have become advanced in devotional service, you can experience yourself. The example is given: Just like a hungry man, if he's given food, if he eats, then he experiences himself that he's getting strength, his hunger is being satisfied. The, these things will be experienced. He hasn't got to take certificate from others, "Whether I am advancing in spiritual consciousness, Krsna consciousness." He'll feel himself. Bhaktih paresanubhava viraktir anyatra syat. This is the test.
Just like Gosvamis, the six Gosvamis. They were ministers. How they gave up their lucrative service, engagement? Tyaktva turnam asesa-mandala-pati-srenim sada tucchavat. They gave up their minister, high posts, association of aristocratic families, mandala-pati-srenim. They were, themselves, not only mandala-pati, great leaders, but they were associate with great leaders. But they gave up everything. Why? Param drstva nivartate. They found something better in Krsna consciousness. Therefore they were able to give up. Just like you are. You are. European and American boys, you were accustomed to better, comfortable life. I know. But you have given up your better, comfortable life, and you have learned, or you are satisfied lying down on the floor, without any bedding. How you have been practiced to it? Because you are trying to find out a better engagement. Param drstva nivartate [Bg. 9.59].
Sometimes in your country, they are surprised how we are living without furniture. Because without furniture, living is impossible. Sometimes in the beginning, when I was accommodated in some apartment, the landlord used to inquire, "Oh, where is your furniture?" So they do not know they don't require furniture. We can lie down anywhere. It doesn't matter whether in a nice apartment or on the, underneath a tree. That doesn't matter. So how these things happen? Unless one becomes little advanced, one has got little taste in devotional service, they cannot give up these material comforts. The Gosvamis are the best example. They were coming from very, very aristocratic family. They were, they did not join the Caitanya Mahaprabhu's movement out of poverty-stricken. No. All of them, six Gosvamis... Just like Rupa Gosvami, Sanatana Gosvami, they were very, very big men, ministers, very rich men. Similarly, Raghunatha dasa Gosvami. He was the only son of his father and uncle. And at that time his father and uncle had twelve lakhs of rupees income. So you cannot imagine what is the exchange of twelve lakhs of rupees five hundred years ago. So very rich man. Similarly, Sri Jiva, Gopala Bhatta, and Sri Jiva Gosvami. He was the jewel of all learned philosophers. That is acknowledged even by the greatest philosophers of the world. So these six Gosvamis, they were not ordinary men, but still, for Caitanya Mahaprabhu's service, they left everything. Tyaktva turnam asesa-mandala-pati-srenim sada tucchavat bhutva dina-ganesakau karunaya kaupina-kantasritau. So krsna-bhakti, devotional service of Krsna, is so exalted that a devotee can kick out even mukti. They do not want. A devotee doesn't want. Just like Caitanya Mahaprabhu says,
na dhanam na janam na sundarim
kavitam va jagadisa kamaye
mama janmani janmanisvare
bhavatad bhaktir ahaituki (tvayi)
[Cc. Antya 20.29, Siksastaka 4]
So devotional service, this line of activities should not be taken for some material gain. This is not bhakti. Bhakti must be pure, cent percent pure, free from all material desires, free from the resultant action of jnana and karma. Anyabhilasita-sunyam jnana-karmady-anavrtam [Brs. 1.1.11]. In other words, if you are actually a devotee, you'll have no more interest with these material desires. Material desires means dharma artha kama moksa [SB 4.8.41, Cc. Adi 1.90]. They're all material desires. Sri Caitanya-caritamrta Kaja, Krsnadasa Kaviraja Gosvami... Of course, it is spoken by Caitanya Mahaprabhu.
That is the test of krsna-bhakta. He has no desire. He does not want to exchange anything by serving Krsna. That is not pure devotion. You can exchange. You can get the result. Therefore sastra has recommended, Bhagavata has recommended,
Akama. Akama means these devotees who have no desire. Anyabhilasita-sunyam [Brs. 1.1.11]. That is called akama. And others are kama, not akama. Others, who? Bhukti-mukti-siddhi-kami. Those who are desiring for material gain, bhukti, and those who are desiring after mukti, liberation. They are also kami. And those who are desiring after siddhis, yoga-siddhi. Anima-laghima-siddhi. So all of them are kamis. They are not akama. Therefore Bhagavata says, akamah sarva-kamo va moksa-kamah [SB 2.3.10]. Sarva-kama means karmis.
The karmis have no end to their desires. "Bring money, bring money, bring money, bring money." You have seen. You have got good experience in your country. Millionaires, multi-millionaires, still working hard: "Where is money? Where is money?" Diva carthehaya rajan kutumba-bharanena va [SB 2.1.3]. These materialistic persons, they are engaged at night either by sleeping or by sex indulgence. Nidraya hriyate naktam vyavayena ca va vayah. They are wasting their time, valuable time of this life either by sleeping or by sex at night. This is their night's business. And what is day's business.? Diva carthehaya rajan. In the daytime, simply walking or running by cars. We have seen in your country. there are flyways and always cars, hundreds and thousands of cars. Sometimes I think that so many cars are going this way, and so many cars are going this way. Why they not settle up their business by telephone, that "I do here your business", "I do here,"? (laughter) But that is not possible. Because it is karmi, all of them running this way, whoosh-whoosh, and there is accident. Yes. So many thousands. How many thousands, they die every year? There is statistic. Yes.
So this world, material world is like that. So diva carthehaya rajan kutumba-bharanena va [SB 2.1.3]. And as soon as they get money, they want to purchase. The wife says, "I want so many, so much, so many dollars for my, this purpose." "All right, take it." The children says... Therefore in the Bhagavata they are called svajanakhya-dasyu. Dasyu means burglars. So the wife and children, they are legitimate burglars. Yes. If somebody takes your money from the pocket, he becomes pickpocket, criminal, but if your wife takes it away, you very become pleased. "Oh, how my wife is nice." (laughter) So they are called svajanakhya-dasyu. It is taken as love. "How much my wife loves that (s)he is taking all my money from pocket." (laughter) So diva carthehaya rajan kutumba-bharanena va [SB 2.1.3]. This is the occupational duties of the materialistic person. But a Krsna conscious person is not like that. They say that. Caitanya Mahaprabhu says, the ideal Krsna conscious Personality of Godhead, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krsna... Krsna... Sri... Krsna-caitanya-namne. Vande maha pu... What is that sloka? Krsna, krsna-caitanya-namne.
He is Krsna. Simply He has taken the name, Krsna Caitanya. Otherwise how one could give krsna-prema? Krsna-prema can be given by Krsna. Nobody else. So namo maha-vadanyaya. This is the first verse, sloka uttered by Srila Rupa Gosvami when he met Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu at Prayaga, modern Allahabad. Prayaga is also named there. So he offered his prayer like this: namo maha-vadanyaya krsna-prema-pradaya te [Cc. Madhya 19.53]. He understood that "Here is the incarnation of God who is the most munificent." Mu..., most munificent. Other incarnation of God... Even Krsna could not give krsna-prema. He simply ordered that "You surrender unto Me." Not that "You take Krsna, love of Krsna." No. He did not give. Therefore Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu came, Krsna came again that "I did not give My love." So He came as Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Anarpita-carim cirat karunayavatirnah kalau. Anarpita-carim cirat. In other incarnation, the Lord, Ramcandra or Lord Krsna, They did not give... Of course, those who were devotee, they automatically... But Their purpose was different. Paritranaya sadhunam vinasaya ca duskrtam [Bg. 4.8]. But Caitanya Mahaprabhu, incarnation of Godhead. Krsna, He specially came to distribute krsna-prema. That is a special significance of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu.
So we shall always... You have taken the path of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. He will bless you if you sincerely stick to His principle, Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Then by His grace, you'll be able to preach His message as these boys... They have been given sannyasa in very, I mean to say, minor age, and still, they are doing very nice. You are, all of you, you are very minor age. But take this Krsna consciousness. Caitanya Mahaprabhu also Himself took sannyasa at the age of twenty-four years. It is not that one has to accept sannyasa in ripe old age like me, seventy years or seventy-five years. Not that. Caitanya Mahaprabhu set up the example, that for Krsna's service one can take sannyasa at any time. So He did it by His personal example. Tyaktva turnam... There is a verse. Just now I forget. That Caitanya Mahaprabhu gave up His opulent family life. When He was... He took sannyasa. At that time, His wife was only sixteen years old, and He had His affectionate mother, Sacidevi, very old. Nobody was to take care of him, her. But still, He took sannyasa for giving mercy to the poor human society in this age. Therefore He's called:
So you follow the instruction of the Gosvamis, follow the path of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, and try to spread Krsna consciousness all over the world, and your life will be glorified.
Thank you very much. (end)

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