Lecture at Engagement – May 19, 1969, Columbus
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Lecture at Engagement
- May 19, 1969, Columbus 690519LE-COLUMBUS [31:58 Minutes]
What I am doing? What I am gaining?
Prabhupada:
My dear boys and girls. I thank you very much for your participating in this great saṅkirtana movement. This saṅkirtana movement is recommended for self-realization in this age. This age is called, according to Vedic understanding, it is called Kali-yuga, the age of quarrel and disagreement, this age. So, besides that, there are many other symptoms of this age. They are described in the Vedic literatures, and they are coming exactly true. That is scripture.
So the summary of this age is described that, in this age, the duration of life is very small. Prayenalpayusah kalav asmin yuge janah . Everyone, we are decreasing our duration of life. You know, every one of you, your forefathers, your grandfather lived for hundreds..., at least one hundred years. I have seen my grandmother, she died at the age of ninety-six years. My father died at the age of eighty-four years.
So I do not know how long I shall live-I am now seventy-three-maybe a few years more; but actually the duration of life gradually decreases. This is the symptom of this age, practically. And it is said that at the end of this millennium, that if somebody lives from twenty to thirty years, he will be considered as very old man.
So, memory is decreasing also. People's sentiment for doing good to others, or to become merciful, that is also decreasing. Strength is decreasing, stature is decreasing. So this is one side. Another side, mandah sumanda-matayo manda-bhagya . One side they're decreasing so many nice things, another side they're very slow for self-realization. Practically, they have no interest.
This human form of life is meant for self-realization. This life is not meant for working hard like cats and dogs and hogs for sense gratification. No. This life is not meant for that purpose. We have got developed consciousness, intelligence. We should ask, "What is this life?" The Bhagavata says, parabhavas tavad abodha-jatah. [SB 5.5.5]
We are ignorant, we are born ignorant, and we are doing so many things, activities, we are engaged. But we should see whether we are gaining or losing, whether we are conquering or being defeated. That should be our business to see.
So, how to test it? The Bhagavata says, so long you do not come to the platform of understanding yourself, whatever you are doing, it is simply defeat. Zero. Zero has no value. If you go on adding zero, zero, zero, zero, million times, the value is zero. But if there is zero and put on the left side one, it becomes immediately ten.
Therefore, according to... Not according to; everyone, everyone reasonable man can understand that "What I am doing? What I am gaining?" In your country especially, I see there is so much frustration among the youngsters. They are finding that this is zero. Some way or other they are trying to realize that this sort of life is zero, actually.
Human life, simply increasing the demands of our senses, these activities are zero activities. Parabhava, defeating. Yavan na jijnasata atma-tattvam [SB 5.5.5] When a human being..., as long as a human being does not inquire, "What I am? Why I am suffering? I do not wish to die. Why death is enforced upon me? I do not want to be diseased. Why disease is forced upon me? I do not want to become old. Why I become old? I do not wish to die. Why I..." These things are very important questions. That is called atma-tattvam, self-realization.
Human life is meant for this purpose, enquiring self-realization. And if we do not enquire, then we are no better than animals. Animals have no power to enquire about the self. He is simply busy with the problems of the body-eating, sleeping, mating and defending.
Similarly, if human body is also engaged simply for eating, sleeping, mating and defending, that is not very good civilization. That is not at all human civilization. Human civilization is meant for understanding one's self, what I am, and act according to that.
So Bhagavata says, if we do not come to that point of understanding my self, then whatever I am doing or acting, this is simply defeat, or simply waste of time. At the same time, there is warning that we should not waste even a single moment of our life. Please try to understand these Vedic instructions, how nice they are.
There is a great politician of the name Canakya Pandita. He was prime minister of Emperor Candragupta, a contemporary to the reign of Alexander the Great in Greece. So he was prime minister of that Emperor Candragupta, and he has many moral instruction and social instructions. In one of his verses, he says that ayusah ksana eko 'pi na labhyah svarna-kotibhih [Canakya Pandita].
Ayusah, "of your duration of life."
Suppose you are twenty years old. Today is 19th May, and there was 4 p.m. Now, this time, 4 p.m., 19th May, 1969, gone. You can never get it back, even if you are prepared to pay millions of dollars. Just try to understand.
Similarly, even a moment of your life is wasted for nothing, simply in the matter of sense gratification-eating, sleeping, mating and defending-then you do not know the value of your life. You cannot get back even a moment of your life by paying millions of dollars. Just try to understand how much valuable is your life.
We want to see everyone happy. That is Krsna consciousness movement. And it is practical; it is not dream. You can become happy. Don't be disappointed. Don't be confused. Your life has value. You, in this life, you can realize your eternal life, eternal blissful life of knowledge. It is possible; it is not impossible.
In that Bhagavad-gita in the Fourth Chapter it is said, janma karma me divyam yo janati tattvatah [Bg 4.9] If simply tries to understand what is Krsna, what is His business, what is His life, where does He live, what does He do...., janma karma. Janma means appearance and disappearance; karma means activities; divyam-transcendental. Janma karma me divyam yo janati tattvatah.
One who knows the appearance and activities of Krsna in fact, in truth-not by sentiment but by scientific study-then the result is tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti kaunteya [Bg 4.9]. Simply by understanding Krsna, you'll no more have to come back to this miserable condition of material existence. This is fact. Even in your life, in this life, you'll understand; you'll be happy.
Very simple: chant Hare Krsna. That you have already seen. This chanting is not at all difficult. Anyone, even a child was sitting here, he was just trying to clap and understand. It is immediately appealing, because this vibration is from the platform of the soul.
Try to understand that we have got different platforms of our life. In the beginning we understand that this body, "I am this body." Therefore, so long the bodily concept of life is there, we are interested in sense gratification, because body means the senses.
And when we fail to achieve any gratification by indulging in the senses, then we become philosophers or thoughtful. That is the mental platform. Indriyani parany ahur indriyebhyah param manah [Bg 3.42]. Because these senses are centered round by..., of the mind. Mind is practically the controller of the senses.
So when you fail to achieve real, I mean to say, pleasure from the senses, we go to the mental platform: poetry, philosophy, similar, songs. But you have to transcend even the mental platform. That is intellectual platform.
Then above that intellectual platform, your soul is there. So you have to immediately come to the platform of soul, and you'll be happy. That is the program of Krsna consciousness.
These are very scientific facts. You have to simply... You are all students; therefore I place before you, I appeal to you, try to understand the problems of life: what is your body, what is your mind, what is your intelligence, what are you..., how we are a soul, the spirit soul.
At the present moment our realization is that "I am this body," and because this body is produced in a certain country or a certain place or certain society, therefore I am identifying my body as American or as this or that. These are all designation.
And you are seeking after that joyfulness, that pleasure, because by nature you are joyful. By nature... It is your nature. Just like a diseased man, that diseased condition is not his nature. Healthy condition is his nature; therefore he is trying to be healthy.
Every diseased man is trying how to get health, how to get health. Similarly, this position, this present consciousness of material existence, is full of threefold miseries.
It takes very long time to explain each and every word, but I tell you in summary, this life is subjected to three kinds of miseries, always-either bodily, mental, or some miseries inflicted by other living entities or by nature. So many things. At least one or two.
We must be under the subjugation of some kind of miseries. But if you become situated in your spiritual platform of life, brahma-bhutah, you immediately become joyful, prasannatma. Brahma-bhutah prasannatma [Bg 18.54]. And how one becomes prasannatma? What are the symptoms? The symptoms are also stated, na socati na kaṅksati: he has no more any demand for satisfying the senses, neither he has any lamentation for any loss.
Brahman is the supreme source from where everything emanates, or everything is born. So in the Vedanta-sutra, and that is explained in the Srimad-Bhagavatam.
So you are student, you should take advantage of these great literatures. Don't remain in darkness. Tamasi ma jyotir gamah. The Vedas inform you, "Don't remain in darkness, but come to the light. That is your business." Asato ma sad-gamah: don't remain in the non-permanent situation. This body is non-permanent situation.
You are thinking, oh, you have got this nice body, American body, "We have got so much opulences. What we have to learn about Vedanta? We are very much happy." But try to understand that how long you shall remain American? It is all right, you have got this nice body, beautiful body, you have got opulences, your country is very nice. But as soon as you change your body, that change of body is going on. Try to understand.
You were a child when you were born out of the womb of your mother. Or in the womb of the mother your body was so small. Just like a pea it has developed, and when it's fully developed you come out. You have come out, you are developing. Developing means changing. That is also stated in the Bhagavad-gita:
As you are changing your body even in this present life, you remember that you were a child, you were a boy... I remember I was a child, I was a baby. I still remember in my babyhood I was lying down on my elder sister's lap. She was knitting. I can still remember that.
So we can remember our childhood, our boyhood, our youthhood, but I am the same; the body is changing. It is a fact. Similarly, when these bodies ultimately left or changed, I am accepting another body. That is a fact. This is called transmigration of the soul. As we are changing our dress, similarly we are changing our body. And there are 8,400,000's of different kinds of bodies.
So our..., at present moment, our business is simply to change body, change body. So we do not know what kind of body I am going to take next. There is a vast science about it. So one should know, one should prepare.
You are trying to go to the moon planet, you are trying to go to the sun planet, or you can go any other planet; there are millions of planets. And the highest planet is called Brahmaloka. And modern scientist says that to reach to the highest planet in this universe it will take forty thousands of years. So even if you go there, Srimad Bhagavad-gita says, a-brahma-bhuvanal lokah punar avartino 'rjuna [Bg 8.16].
Anywhere you go, in any planet you go, these four condition of material existence-birth, death, old age and disease-they are existing everywhere. Yam gatva na nivartante tad dhama paramam mama [Bg 15.6] But if one goes to that planet, Krsna planet, then he hasn't got to come back again; he gets eternal life, blissful life, simply joyful life. So our proposal is that in this life you have got this opportunity, the informations are there, the scientific methods are there-take advantage.
It is not a mental concoction; it is very authorized. It is accepted by great stalwart scholars and acaryas. Perhaps some of you know that there are great acaryas like Saṅkaracarya, Ramanujacarya, Madhvacarya, Visnu Svami, those who practically guided the whole destiny of Indian civilization-even Lord Buddha, He was Indian-but all of them accepted these authorized scriptural...
You practice it, you chant anywhere you like, either in your home or anywhere. There is no restriction, there is no hard and fast rules and regulation for chanting, and anyone can chant. You see all our..., you also chanted just a few minutes ago. You chanted.
So it is not difficult. Give it a try. That is our request. We request you, most humbly, that you take these sixteen words, you chant, and your heart will be cleansed of all dirty things. Ceto-darpana-marjanam [Cc Antya 20.12]. Every dirty things. Our..., we do not know how long we are changing births-900,000 species of birth in the water, and 2,000,000 species of life as plants and leaves and trees, and so many lives as reptiles, and cats and dogs and so many...
Now we have come to this, by evolutionary process, this civilized form of life, human form of life, very beautiful form of life. Why you should waste this life, again go to that cycle of changing birth after birth.
Just try to utilize; then it will be finishing touch to your country. Your country is advanced in so many ways. You have no poverty. You are advanced in so many ways. Take this Krsna consciousness movement. Your country will be perfect, actual leader of the whole world.
I have come to your country with this purpose, that if American boys and girls should accept this Krsna consciousness movement, it will be good for them and good for the world. So try to understand this Krsna consciousness movement. It is very easy-it is not difficult-but it is sublime. It is the most sublime movement. It can solve all the problems of the world. That we are sure.
So I do not wish to take much of your time. The sum and substance of our movement I have explained to you, and these boys are also there if you want to inquire. We are prepared to answer your inquiries. But we request you, please take seriously about this movement and you'll be happy, sarve sukhino bhavantu.
Thank you very much. [end]
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