So these are the signs of becoming perfect man, that he does not commit mistake, neither he is illusioned. Illusion means to accept something as something. That is illusion. Just like we are accepting this body as myself. If you ask me, "What you are?" "I am Indian. I am brahmana. I am this. I am that." So what are these? These are all bodily concept of life. This is illusion. Illusion means I am not this body. You have got experience when a man dies, his relatives and children cry, "My father is gone." But actually the father, the sons who knew the body of the father as the father, that was illusion. Now, after death he is coming to understand that "My father is gone." Why? Your father is lyi... It is lying therethe same hand, legs, heads, coat, panteverything is lying there. Why do you say that your father has gone away? That means the real father he has never seen. He has seen the illusion of his father. This is called illusion. Is there any doubt? I am seeing you. What I am seeing, you? I am seeing your body, your shirt, coat, pant. That's all. But as Krsna said, that dehino 'smin yatha dehe [Bg. 2.13], within this body the real person is there, just like within the shirt and coat the real person is there, so but the real person we never see. We see the shirt, coat, pant, and we take the shirt, coat, pant as this man. This is called illusion, to accept something for something else. The son did not know who is father. He is going on, calling the shirt, coat, pant of the father as "father." This is called illusion. To commit mistake and to become illusioned, and even if we try to become perfect, our senses are imperfect.

Just like we are very much proud of our eyes. Somebody, they say, "Can you show me God?" Now, how you will see? "Now, with my eyes." But your eyes are imperfect. That he will not admit. He forgets that "So long the light is there, I can see. My pride for possessing the eyes is valid so long the light is there. As soon as there is no light, in spite of possessing the eyes, I cannot see." So you can see under certain condition. If there is sunlight, then you can see. If there is no sunlight you cannot see. So what is the value of your seeing? Imperfect eyes.

So similarly, our eyes are imperfect, our all senses are imperfect. We gather knowledge by the sense, five knowledge-gathering senses and five working senses and mind. So if the senses are imperfect, then how can I gather real knowledge? And without getting real knowledge, if I preach, that is cheating. If you have no knowledge, then... Just like so many scientists, philosophers, they are cheating. Actually they have no knowledge that life cannot be produced by chemical combination; still, they are cheating people throughout the whole world that life can be produced by chemical combination. And this cheating is accepted. So there are so many other things. They are claiming they have gone to moon planet, this, that. But according to sastra, they are all cheaters. All cheaters. They cannot go. It is not so easy thing. Just like to enter your African city, African country, there are so many rules and regulations, immigration. And you want to go to the Candraloka without any restriction. Just see. Candraloka is the planet of the demigods. There the people live for ten thousands of years, they are so advanced. Their comforts are many thousands better than this standard of comfort. And you want to go there without any passport and without any visa. From common sense, can you enter anyone's country simply because you have got aeroplane? But these things are going on.

So to accept knowledge from these rascals who commit mistake, who are illusioned, who are cheater, whose senses are imperfect, is useless waste of time. This is the shastric injunction. We should receive knowledge from the perfect. So in all respect, who can become the perfect than Krsna? Krsna is accepted by Vedavyasa, by Narada, by Arjuna, big, big stalwart scholars and personalities, that He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Just like this Bhagavad-gita. This Bhagavad-gita is recorded by Vyasadeva. The talks were between Krsna and Arjuna, and it was recorded by Vyasadeva's disciple, Sanjaya. And Vyasadeva, while writing Mahabharata, he put this dialogue within the Mahabharata. So why Vyasadeva put this conversation between Krsna and Arjuna in his authoritative book Mahabharata? Mahabharata means "greater India." Bharata means Bharatavarsa. This planet was being called Bharatavarsa. So Mahabharata, the history of the whole planet. So Vyasadeva giving the history. Mahabharata is also Vedic literature. Mahabharata, Ramayana, the eighteen Puranas, Vedanta-sutra, four Vedas, and then Upanisad, they're all Vedic literature. So Mahabharata is authorized Vedic literature. And within the Mahabharata this Bhagavad-gita is there. Therefore it is Vedic literature. So unless it is authorized perfect knowledge, why Vyasadeva should put in his Mahabharata? Therefore it is perfect knowledge. Because it is spoken by the most perfect personality, Krsna, there is no question of mistake, there is no question of illusion.

You can attain this also, state of life, liberated life. We have heard so many times, "liberation," or "mukti." Mukti means one who has no defects as mentioned. That is mukti. Mukti does not mean one thinks himself that "I have become Bhagavan. I have become now..." Vimukta-maninah. They have been called as rascals, wrongly thinking that they are vimukta. Vimukta-mani. Ye 'nye 'ravindaksa vimukta-maninah. There are so many rascals, they are thinking that they have become mukta, liberated Narayanas. They're thinking like that. Ye 'nye 'ravindaksa vimukta-maninah. So why they are...? Now, if they have become liberated, so advanced, and feeling that they have become Narayana, so what is the objection? The objection is ye 'nye 'ravindaksa vimukta-maninas tvayy asta-bhavat [SB 10.2.32]. They do not know what is Narayana, these rascals. Sankaracarya admits, narayanah parah avyaktat: "Narayana is not a being within this material world." That is Narayana. And they have become Narayana, namo narayanaya. Narayana is so cheap thing? Therefore sastra says, ye 'nye 'ravindaksa vimukta-maninah. These rascals, they are thinking they have become Narayana, but they do not know what is Narayana. Ye 'nye 'ravindaksa vimukta-maninah. Why they do not under...? Tvayy asta-bhavat. They never tried to understand what is really God. They thought, "God is very cheap thing. Everyone can become God." So therefore they have become vimukta-maninah.

Real mukti is described in the Bhagavata. Mukti means muktir hitvanyatha rupam. Muktir hitvanyatha rupam sva-rupena vyavasthitih. When one is cured of his madness and he is situated in healthy state, that is called mukti. So here in this material world everyone is mad. Somebody is thinking, "I am king." Somebody is thinking, "I am minister." Somebody is thinking, "I am president," "I am this," "I am Narayana," so on, so on, so on, all madmen, all madmen, because it will be finished. His so-called conception of becoming this and that will be finished within few years. But he is eternal. He is thinking the temporary situation of becoming an American, Indian, or minister, or president, or this or that, how long it will stay? It will stay, say, ten or fifteen or fifty or hundred years. That's all. But he is not for hundred years. Henityah sasvato 'yam na hanyate hanyamane sarire [Bg. 2.20]. But the rascal does not know. He is thinking, "By chance, I have become minister or president or this or that. For some years this is my position." Dehatma-buddhih. So that is the difference between mukti, mukta and bandha, bondage and liberation.

So liberation means to be situated in his own real position. That is called li... So what is our position? If we become little sober, if we become little sober, then we can understand what is my position. So that is called meditation, or dhira. Dhiras tatra na muhyati [Bg. 2.13]. (aside:) What is that? Closing?

Therefore Krsna says, jnanam te 'ham sa-vijnanam: [Bg. 7.2] "I'll speak to you about jnana." Everyone is in ajnana and falsely thinking that he is some very important person. This is ajnana. Real jnana, as will be explained here, is to receive from Krsna. So Krsna is giving knowledge in the Bhagavad-gita. He'll speak in later chapters that "The real jnana is to surrender unto Me." This is real jnana. Krsna will say in the Eighth Chapter, bahunam janmanam ante jnanavan mam prapadyate: [Bg. 7.19] "After many, many births..." So today I may be minister, and tomorrow, after death, I may become a dog. But that is not in my control. You cannot say that "I am minister. I am this. I am that. I am high-court judge or very important man. So I am ordering material nature. Although I shall die, next life I shall become again high-court judge or Narayana, something." No. That is not possible. You are fully under control. You have given a license to enjoy or suffer in this body, and in this body, as soon as it is finished, karmana daiva-netrena jantur... [SB 3.31.1], and then you get another body.

So this jnana, even this jnana, the change of body is not there. Throughout the whole world, big, big professor, big, big educationist, they do not believe in the next birth. 99.9 percent, they do not. But this is a fact. There is. Tatha dehantara-praptih. Krsna says. And we understand this also. Krsna gives this example: dehino 'smin yatha dehe kaumaram yauvanam jara [Bg. 2.13]. This child is becoming kumara; a kumara is becoming boy; boy is becoming young man; young man is becoming old man. So these changes are going on; still, he does not know that "After this old body is finished, I shall have to accept another body." So this is ignorance. Therefore we have to take knowledge from the most perfect Personality of Godhead, Krsna. This is real knowledge.

So jnanam te aham sa-vijnanam. Sa-vijnanam means with practical application. As there is theoretical knowledge and practical knowledge in scientific advancement, so simply theoretical knowledge will not help me. Theoretically I may know that I am not this body, but practically it must be known. If not, if I am not this body, then I am soul. Then I am working here in this world only for my body. What I am doing about my soul? That is knowledge. Suppose I have got this coat and pant and hat. If he simply tries, dry clean the coat and do not put any food in the stomach, how long this civilization will go on? Starving. So the whole world is in disturbed condition because there is no spiritual food, only material cleansing the shirt and coat. That is going on. Like cats and dogs, they are interested with the body.

So sa-vijnanam... Actually we must know what we are and what is my real business. That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita. You should carefully note it that when I understand that I am not this material body, aham brahmasmi, I am spirit soul, I am Brahman... Krsna is Parabrahman, and we are Krsna's part and parcel. We are also Brahman. Not that by knowledge I become Brahman. I am already Brahman. By ignorance I am thinking not Brahman. Aham brahmasmi, "I am spirit soul; I am spirit." That is my actual position. And when you understand your actual position and act accordingly, that is called mukti. Muktir hitvanyatha rupam sva-rupena vyavasthitih. When you understand that we are not this body... We are working whole day and night like cats and dogs, the hogs. The hog is also working day and night. Hog, what is his business? "Where is stool?" That's all. "Where is stool? Where is stool?" And as soon as he gets stool, he eats it, become fatty because stool contains all the vitamins. That is the essence of all good food that you take, and the essence is rejected. But it is scientifically true. Perhaps doctor will admit. Stool contains all hydrophosphates. Is it not? Then who is going to eat stool? Hydrophosphates is very good for brain, but now eat. Therefore these hogs very easily become fat. You see? So does it mean that we shall work very hard where to find out where is stool and then become fat and somebody will eat me? This is not civilization. Civilization is that you must know what is your real position and act accordingly, and then you become liberated. Sva-rupena vyavasthitih. That is perfection of your life. Don't be misled by the bodily concept of life. That is condemned. The whole Vedic civilization is based on this point.

So that jnanam, theoretical, and vijnanam, sa-vijnanam vaksyami, Krsna will teach, "Take this jnanam." The most perfect personality. So this is our business. But do we...? We don't care for Krsna. We do not know Krsna and what to speak of taking knowledge from Him. The knowledge is there, but we are so fool that we do not take knowledge from Bhagavad-gita. We manufacture our own knowledge. This is called maya. Maya is so strong that she'll not allow to take real knowledge from the real person, but we shall read volumes of books who are defective with their four kinds of imperfectness, namely they commit mistake, they are illusioned, they are cheater and their senses are imperfect.

So this is the first business, that "Where we shall take knowledge?" Tad-vijnanartham. Vedic lesson is that tad-vijnanartham gurum eva abhigacchet: "You should go to guru." Just like Arjuna has accepted Krsna as guru. When Arjuna was puzzled, he surrendered to Krsna. Sisyas te 'ham sadhi mam prapannam: [Bg. 2.7] "I am ksatriya. It is my duty to fight, but I am declining. Although You are requesting me to fight, still I am declining. So I am puzzled. Anyway, I can understand You can drive away my, this puzzling position. Therefore I am becoming Your sisya." Sisyas te 'ham. "I become Your disciple. I am not going to argue with You on equal footing." Sisya means he is always subordinate. Whatever the guru will say, he will accept. That is the guru and sisya. So Krsna became guru and Arjuna became a sisya, disciple, not friend. Of course, he knew what is Krsna. So sisyas te 'ham sadhi mam prapannam. So similarly, we have to find out guru for perfect instruction. That is the only way. Otherwise we shall keep ourself in ignorance, in mistake, in illusion, in imperfectness and so many other things.

So this is the injunction of the Vedas, that "If you want real knowledge, you must go to guru." "Now, there are so many gurus. So whom shall I...? Where shall I go?" No. You shall go to a gurusamit-panih srotriyam brahma-nistham [MU 1.2.12]. You shall go to a guru who is brahma-nistham, a great devotee. He is guru, not a so-called guru, gold-making guru. (laughter) Then another cheater. You see? So the Vedic injunction is brahma-nistham. That is guru, one who has full knowledge in Brahman. Athato brahma jijnasa. So here also in the Bhagavad-gita you'll find who is guru. Tattva-darsinah. Tad-vijnana... Tattva-darsinah, one who has seen the truth. Never says this magic player, no. Tattva-darsinah. This is the greatest magic, brahma-nistham. That is the greatest magic, how to become fixed up in Brahman. That is called brahma-bhutah prasannatma [Bg. 18.54]. As soon as you become brahma-nistham, fixed up in Brahman, then all your miserable condition finished. Prasannatma. That is the sign. Everyone is trying to be very happy. So that you can be by brahma-nistham, by understanding that you are Brahman.

So jnanam means to understand oneself and practically, samanam vijnanam, sa-vijnanam, with vijnana, practical application, idam vaksyami and Krsna is saying. He is not ordinary human being. As soon as we think of Krsna as ordinary human being we become more rascal. Avajananti mam mudha manusim tanum asritam: [Bg. 9.11] "Because I am speaking this Bhagavad-gita, the ultimate knowledge, these rascals sometimes think of Me as I am ordinary human being." And therefore they interpret in their own way, "What Krsna has said, the meaning is like this," as if Krsna left the whole book to be interpreted by another rascal. No. You cannot interpret. Therefore we are presenting Bhagavad-gita as it is, without any interpretation. So if we take Bhagavad-gita as it isand everything is there cleardon't interpret like fools and rascals, then you'll get real knowledge. Jnanam. Jnanam te 'ham sa-vijnanam [Bg. 7.2]. Practical. Vaksyamy asesatah. So we must have understood that... This is another meaning, that tad-vijnanartham sa gurum evabhigacchet [MU 1.2.12].

So Krsna is showing practically by accepting His friend, very dear friend, as His disciple. That means he is showing who is guru. Guru is Krsna and one who understands Krsna. That is guru. Don't accept these rascals and fools as guru, who denies Krsna. He is not guru. He is cheater. Krsna is showing, and Arjuna is accepting, sisyas te 'ham [Bg. 2.7], "I become your sisya." That means Krsna is the original guru. And one who speaks on behalf of Krsna, he is guru. That is guru. This is the test: whether he is aware of Krsna. Then he is guru. Otherwise he's not guru. First of all you understand that. So that is mahatma. Krsna has said, sa mahatma sudurlabhah. That is mahatma. Who mahatma?

So guru means... Vedic injunction is you must go to a guru. Now, it may be difficult, who is guru. That is also Krsna showing a..., "I am guru." Mattah parataram nanyat kincid asti dhananjaya: [Bg. 7.7] "There is no more any better person than Me." And He has proved it. He has proved it. Krsna, so long He was on this platform, on this earthly planet, He proved that He was the greatest personality, greatest persons... Read history and you will see. He proved Himself from His childhood. When He was three months... He is neither old nor... But He was playing just like human child on the lap of mother Yasoda. The Putana came to kill Him. So that child... You will read all this from Bhagavatam, how He killed that big Putana, when He was seven years old how He lifted Govardhana Hill. So although He was playing just like ordinary human child, human boy or hu..., but sometimes He was showing His almightiness. That is Krsna. That is God.

So jnanam te 'ham sa-vijnanam idam vaksyamy asesatah, and yaj jnatva [Bg. 7.2]. If you try to understand Krsna or knowledge from Krsna, yaj jnatva... Yaj jnatva neha. Na iha: "in this material." Yaj jnatva neha bhuyo 'nyaj: "You will have nothing to learn." Because he understands, vasudevah sarvam idam: "Everything is Vasudeva." So Vasudeva will give him all knowledge about science, about politics, about philosophy, about astrology, astronomy. Everything will come out. You haven't got to go to some other expert in some particular type of knowledge. But if a devotee, Krsna devotee... He knows everything, all department of knowledge. Just like we are challenging that "You cannot make any life by combination of chemicals." Why? Because we know from Krsna what is what. Therefore we can challenge. We are not fools. We are challenging that "If you can prepare one egg only..." It is very easy. You can take any egg and analyze what are the chemicals. Then bring that chemical, put together and give it to the incubator and produce a chicken. Then I shall know that chemical combination can produce life. Eh? What is your opinion, doctor?

Thank you very much.