Janmāṣṭamī Lecture – August 13, 1971, London

 
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Janmastami Lecture
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August 13, 1971, London
710813L2-LONDON [66:39 Minutes]
My dear Arjuna, beyond Me there is no superior personality or superior truth.
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Devotee: [introducing tape] London lecture number 7. Evening, August 13th, Janmastami evening. London Temple, 1971.
Prabhupada:
…svayam rūpaḥ kada mahyamdadati sva-padantikam
he krsna karuna-sindho dina-bandho jagat-pate
gopesa gopika-kanta radha-kanta namo 'stu te
tapta-kancana-gaurahgi radhe vrndavanesvari
vrsabhanu-sute devi pranamami hari-priye
So actually, according to astronomical calculation, today is Janmastami. But our gosvamis note that if in the Janmastami, in the morning sunrise there is saptami, then we don't observe that day as Janmastami. Out of twenty-four hours, the morning sunrise, if there is still continuation of saptami, then we take it as astami[?]. The next day the whole day is not astami, but in the morning, there is the sunrise, there is astami. Very minute conclusion. Then we accept that as Janmastami. Therefore the Janmastami fasting will be observed tomorrow from morning-from sunrise to 12 o'clock at night. You all know it.
So before Lord's birth, the demigods came invisibly[?] at the house of Kamsa when the mother and father of Krsna were kept prisoners. That was the condition. When Kamsa heard an omen that "You are taking very jubilantly your sister to her husband's house, but you do not know-you are so fool-that she is the source of your death. The eighth child born of your sister will kill you..." So demons, when there is a question of personal interest, the demon forgets any relative-it doesn't matter whether sister, father, mother. So he was ready to kill Devaki immediately, his sister.
So Vasudeva somehow or other saved her, because it is the duty of the husband to give all protection to the wife. Vedic marriage is not a farce; it is a spiritual obligation. The husband gives the wife all protection, all subsistence, and the wife serves the husband throughout the life so that the husband may feel always comfortable. This is the relationship between husband and wife.
But in this age, Kali-yuga, it is stated-they are also mentioned in the Bhagavata-that dam-patye ratim eva hi: the relationship between husband and wife will continue only on sex life. That is very degraded. And actually we have seen many cases, as soon as there is some discrepancies in the sex life, there is separation. But according to Vedic scriptures there is no question of separation. Husband and wife must live throughout the life together, in distress and happiness, in the same condition.
So it was the duty of Vasudeva, Krsna's father. Although he was newly married, immediately he took responsibility: "She is married to me. I give protection to my new wife." So he made a compromise: "My dear brother-in-law, I quite understand that your sister is the source of your [indistinct]. But after all, your sister is not killing you-her sons, one of her sons. It may be that she may not have any sons, so why you are dealing beforehand?
There are so many, that in future someone will come as a son and he may kill you. So…, and even though if you think that her son, any one of her sons, will kill you, I'll bring all my sons born of her before you as soon as he is born, and you may do whatever you like." He thought, "By this time, Kamsa may change his mind."
In this way Devaki, mother of Krsna, was saved from the imminent danger of being killed by her brother. But the brother was so rascal that Vasudeva regularly brought each and every child before Kamsa, and he killed them. So Krsna is the eighth child, and He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
One may argue that "How God takes birth?" There are many [indistinct]. And the answer is, "Why God will not take birth?" If God is all-powerful, why this power should be denied to Him, that "You cannot take birth"? Is God under the direction of any human being, that some philosophers think that God cannot take birth, therefore God will be obliged by his conception that He will not take birth? No. God is omnipotent, all-powerful-He can take birth as many times as He likes and wherever He likes. That is God's position: full independence, in whatever form He likes.
advaitam acyutam anadim ananta-rūpam
adyam purana-purusam nava-yauvanam ca
vedesu durlabham adurlabham atma-bhaktau
[Bs 5.33]
So God's appearance, birth, disappearance-all these things-it is very difficult to understand simply by academic study of the Vedas. The academic…, the academicians, they cannot understand Veda. They are described in the Bhagavad-gita as veda-vada-rataḥ partha [Bg 2.42]. Veda-vada-rataḥ. They are simply addicted to the Veda, but actually they cannot understand it. Nanyad astiti vadinaḥ [Bg 2.42]. They simply say, "We don't believe anything except the Vedas."
But what you understand about the Vedas? If you actually know Vedas, then you'll know Krsna. If you do not know Krsna, [chuckles] then you have no knowledge of Vedas. Because Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita, vedais ca sarvair aham eva vedyaḥ [Bg 15.15]: by studies of Vedas He is to be understood. Unless one understands Krsna, there is no use of studying Vedas; he does not get any profit-he simply wastes his time: srama eva hi kevalam [SB 1.2.8]. These are the sastric
On the other hand, Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita that janma karma me divyam yo janati tattvataḥ [Bg 4.9]: "My janma…" Krsna never says janma-mrtyu. Janma karma. If somebody thinks that Krsna took birth and He died also, that is mistake. That is the conclusion of the less-intelligent class of men. That is not a fact. Krsna never dies. Why Krsna? We also-part and parcel of Krsna-we also never die. Death takes place, the change of body. But Krsna has no material body; therefore even death, the death of the body, that is also not in Krsna.
His body is sac-cid-ananda-vigrahaḥ. His body is completely spiritual, eternal, sat, cit, full of bliss, and ananda, bliss, ananda. And cit means knowledge. Krsna's body is full of knowledge, eternal and full of bliss. Our body is just the opposite-material body. Therefore Krsna's body cannot be compared with our body. If we do so, then we are rascals.
That is explained in the Bhagavad-gita:
avajananti mam mūḍha
manusim tanum asritam
[Bg 9.11]
"Because I appeared just like a human being, manusim, then fools, mūḍha…" This exact word is used. Mūḍha means rascal, fool. So,
avajananti mam mūḍha
manusim tanum asritam
param bhavam ajananto
[Bg 9.11]
"Because they have no deep knowledge about Me, therefore they consider like that."
So this Krsna consciousness movement is very nice. One who takes to this Krsna consciousness, he has the opportunity of understanding Krsna in fact. Janma karma me divyam. And one who knows Him in fact-His activities, His appearance... Krsna appeared, and He had many activities. Those who have read our book Krsna, they know how He was always active-always active. So God is not impersonal, neither inactive. He is always active. Any living entity cannot be inactive. Inactive is dead stone, not alive.
In the Vedas it is said that He is the chief living entity. We are all living entities. Just like in this meeting in our small temple, you are considering me that I am the chief. Outside, the Queen is the chief living entity, and outside England somebody else; outside this planet, somebody else; outside this universe, somebody else. But the ultimate chief living entity is Krsna. Therefore Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita, mattaḥ parataram nanyat kincid asti dhananjaya [Bg 7.7]: "My dear Arjuna, beyond Me there is no superior personality or superior truth."
So what is stated in the Bhagavad-gita, Krsna Himself, that is also being prayed by the demigods who have come to offer their obeisances to Lord Krsna while He was supposed to be in the womb of Devaki. I say purposely "He was supposed to be." Devaki was feeling that "I have got a baby within my abdomen," but actually, when Krsna took His birth, He did not took His birth from the abdomen of Devaki. He appeared before Devaki in four-handed Visnu form. We shall discuss this more.
And Devaki-of course, she is mother of Krsna-she is far advanced devotee. In her previous life she undergone very severe penance and austerity for Devaki and Vasudeva, and they took benediction from God that He would appear as their child. Their demand was that "We want a child like You." Then Krsna said, "Like Me, where is another child? Then I'll have to become your child." So this was the promise by Krsna in her previous life, so He kept that promise.
And the demigods, they are praying, satya-vratam satya-param satyam [SB 10.2.26]. Satya-vratam. God, Krsna, is always truthful. He is always truthful. He is not a liar. Just like we sometimes become…, speak lies. That is the one of the qualification of the conditioned souls-cheating. We conditioned souls, we have got a propensity to cheat others even in our ordinary dealings. Even in family affairs, we sometimes think that "I am hiding this matter from my wife," and the wife is thinking that "I am hiding this matter…" That is a tendency. But in our relationship with Krsna that is not; there is no such cheating. When Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita that man-mana bhava mad-bhakto [Bg 18.65]
…, er,
sarva-dharman parityajya
mam ekam saranam vraja
aham tvam sarva-papebhyo
moksayisyami...
[Bg 18.66]
So when Krsna says that "You surrender unto Me and I give you protection from all resultant action of sinful life," so nobody should think otherwise, that "Krsna may cheat us. Krsna is speaking-that's all right-but as soon as I surrender, He may cheat." No. Therefore His name is satya-vratam. Another satya-vratam: "An old vow[?] is always truthful."
In the Bhagavad-gita it is said by the Lord,
yada yada hi dharmasya
glanir bhavati bharata...
tadatmanam srjamy aham
[Bg 4.7]
"Whenever there is discrepancies in the religious life of the people in general, I appear." So Krsna is appearing because at that time, due to the reign of Kamsa, the whole world was surcharged with sinful activities. Not by the people-by the king himself. And the demigods, headed by Brahma, approached the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and He said that He was coming very soon in the family of the Yadus. So in order to keep that promise He was within the womb of Devaki. Satya-vratam.
The next qualification says satyam-param. Param means "supreme." There are many relative truths, but the Absolute Truth is Krsna, or the Supreme Personality of Godhead, satyam-param. The Bhagavata, Srimad-Bhagavatam, begins with this word satyam param dhimahi. The Vyasadeva, the author of the Srimad-Bhagavatam, he is offering his obeisances to the Supreme Truth, Krsna. In the beginning he writes, om namo bhagavate vasudevaya. Satyam param, the Absolute Truth, is Krsna.
In the Bhagavad-gita Krsna Himself says that aham sarvasya prabhavo [Bg 10.8]: "I am the origin of everything." So if there is any truth within this material world, or anywhere, He is the origin, satyam param. He is the Absolute Truth. According to our Vaisnava philosophy, we do not take anything untruth. The Mayavadi philosophers, they say that this world is mithya, untruth; but we do not say like that. We say, "No, it is not untruth-it is truth."
Krsna also says in the Bhagavad-gita this material world, which is made of primarily eight elements and then diffused in twenty-four elements, they are defined as manifestations of Krsna's energy. Just like a fire remains in one place and it diffuses its heat and light, and so many things are happening through heat and light, similarly Krsna, although He is staying in one place as person, He can distribute Himself by His different energies.
Just like the sun: sun is staying in a localized place-everyone can see. When you see sun, you see that it is lying in one corner of the sky-very insignificant portion-but still, by the heat and light of the sun all these planets and all the production in the planets, they are coming out. That's a scientific fact; everyone knows that as soon as there will be absence of heat and light, then it will be difficult to maintain ourselves. The heat and light is coming from the sun, but the heat and light, the origin of heat and light, is the sun globe, and within the sun globe there is the sun-god also.
That we get information from sastra. Vivasvan, the name of that gentleman, the chief controlling deity in the sun globe, the name is also there in the sastra: imam vivasvate yogam proktavan aham avyayam [Bg 4.1], Krsna says. Krsna not only says that "I spoke this philosophy of Krsna consciousness"-Bhagavad-gita-"long, long ago to Vivasvan, the sun-god," He gives the name; He is so particular.
Therefore those who are Krsna conscious, their knowledge is perfect. Because the modern scientist, they can try to approach the sun globe-it is impossible for them. But they do not know actually what is there within the sun globe. They are thinking that there cannot be any living entities. And they are thinking that there cannot be any living entities in the moon planet. But that's not a fact. Everywhere there is living entities, because anything material is made of five elements: earth, water, fire, air, ether. That's a fact. Either you take sun globe or moon planet or this planet or that planet, the constituent ingredients are these five elements: earth, water, air, fire and ether.
So within this planet we have got experience that there is living entity within the earth. You dig some earth, you will find there are so many insects and ants are coming out, and on the land there is living entities. Then after land there is water. So water there are many living entities. You cannot say, seeing the surface of the water, you cannot say… Just like this ocean, Atlantic Ocean: you do not see any living entities-that does not mean that there is no living entities. That is your insufficiency of vision. There is living entities.
So there is living entity on earth, there is living entity in water, there is living entity in the air. So why there shall not be living entity in the fire? What is your reason? If you think, "No, I am a living entity-I cannot live in the fire," your condition is different, because your body is differently made. Just like you cannot live in the water; that does not mean in the water there is no living entity. So it is your insufficiency of knowledge. Otherwise in every element there is living entity, and that is the information we get from Vedic literature: sarva-jna-the living entity is there everywhere.
So from sastric vision… And that is our source of knowledge, sastra-caksusa. One should see through the sastra what is what. That is our, I mean to say, facility of those who are following the Vedic way of life. So we have to see everything through sastra, and then we can understand, then we can get full knowledge. Sastra-caksusa.
So here the demigods, they are praying: satya-vratam satya-param tri-satyam. Tri-satyam. Tri-satyam means Krsna, or God, is truth in past, future and present. Before creation there is God, during the stay of the creation there is God, and after the annihilation of the creation there is God. It is therefore said that satya-vratam…
[aside to guest:] You have got some prasadam?
Satya-vratam satya-param tri-satyam. Satyasya yoni: "source of all truths." Just like our present experience. This table is wood [knocks on table], it is a fact. We cannot say that this is false. Now wherefrom this wood comes? If you trace out the original source, then you will find that Krsna is the source-by Krsna's energy.
In the Bhagavad-gita it is stated in very clear language that bhūmir apa anala vayuḥ kham buddhir mano eva ca [Bg 7.4]. Apareyam. Bhūmi means earth, water. Bhūmir apa anala. Anala means fire. Bhūmir apa anala vayuḥ. Vayuḥ means air. Bhūmir apa anala vayuḥ kham. Kham means akasa, the sky. Mind, intelligence, ego. Krsna says, bhinna me prakrtir astadha: "They are My separated energies." Therefore He is the source of all these elements, these gross elements and the subtle elements. The gross elements are the earth, water, fire, air, ether-these are gross elements; and finer elements are the mind, intelligence and ego. So altogether eight.
So all these material elements… Mind is also material. Sometimes we mistake that mind is spirit. No. Mind is matter. Sometimes they say intelligence is spirit. No. They are subtler, very subtle, finer. Ego, that is still subtler, but they are all material elements. So Krsna says that me, "My":
bhūmir apo 'nalo vayuḥ
kham buddhir mano eva ca
prakrtir me…
bhinna prakrtir me astadha
[Bg 7.4]
"They are My separated energies."
So therefore the demigods accept. The demigods do not say that "We are all-in-all." They are not so fool. They admit, "Krsna, You are the source of all truths," satyasya yonim nihitam ca satye [SB 10.2.26]. And the whole material world, according to Vaisnava philosophy, Bhagavata philosophy-not according to; it is the fact-that everything is truth, but it is temporary. Just like the sun.
Sun we can see in the daytime. At night we do not see the sun. That does not mean the sun is dead. Formerly, people used to believe that sun, after evening, it dies. There were some, I mean, primitive philosophers, they say like that. But actually that is not a fact. The fact is the sun is there in the sky, by… But this planet, being in a different position, we do not see the sun. That is the fact. Therefore sun is truth, and because sun is not visible at night by me, therefore sun cannot be untruth.
So this is our foolishness. God is truth. God is truth, and He is visible also, in due course of time. And..., but those who are rascals, they think that "God is dead" or "There is no God." Therefore it is said, satyasya yonim nihitam ca satye.
So today is Janmastami day. We should try to understand Krsna philosophically. We should not go away because there is talk of philosophy. If there is story, they may be interested, [laughs] but hearing, hearing story only, we are trying to forget Krsna. You see? Any religion, if it is not based on philosophy, one day it will be forgotten, it will be lost.
So that is happening. There are many, so many Krsna temples, but there is no discussion of the Krsna philosophy. Krsna philosophy… They think Krsna is an idol, just "jaya jagadisa hare"-that's all; finished business. No. Janma karma me divyam, yo janati tattvataḥ [Bg 4.9]. That is the injunction in the Bhagavad-gita: "Anyone who understands Me, My transcendental activities, appearance and disappearance," anyone who can understand janma karma me divyam, yo janati tattvataḥ, "in truth." That requires philosophical understanding.
Religion without philosophy is sentiment. Sentiment has no value. And philosophy without religion is mental speculation. That is also no value. Both of them should be combined. Religion should be combined with philosophy; then intelligent persons will stay with it. Otherwise they will be without religion, and without religion means animal. Animals, they do not have any religion, neither they have any understanding of religion. That is animal life.
Dharmena hinaḥ pasubhiḥ samanaḥ [Hitopadesa 25]. That is the distinction between animal and man. Animals are not interested in religion. No animal-cats and dogs-however nicely, cordially invite the cats and dogs, they'll never [laughs] be interested in religion, you see, because they are cats and dogs. But any human being, this developed consciousness, they will come; he will come. Therefore in every human society-doesn't matter where it is, in any part of the world-there is some conception of religion according to the place, according to the people and according to the… Of course, preacher is always competent, but he does not speak fully if the audience is not, I mean, qualified to understand.
This philosophy of Krsna consciousness cannot be preached in the desert. It is meant for advanced humans, the philosophy of God, the philosophy of Krsna. Each word described herewith in the Srimad-Bhagavatam, before the appearance of Lord Krsna:
satya-vratam satya-param tri-satyam
satyasya yonim nihitam ca satye
satyasya satyam rta-satya-netram
satyatmakam tvamsaranam prapannaḥ
[SB 10.2.26]
Srimad-Bhagavatam, each line, each word is so much impregnated with philosophical thoughts that you can study one word throughout your whole life-it is so philosophical. It is not a professional business, that you finish Bhagavata within one week. One life is not sufficient to understand one word of Bhagavata, it is so big philosophical thing. But it has become a profession, Bhagavata-saptaha. What you will understand within one week, the whole Bhagavata? One word requires explanation one life.
So, satyasya yonim nihitam ca satye. These truths, these elements, they are also the God there as Paramatma. That is explained in the Brahma-samhita:
eko 'py asau racayitum jagad-anḍa-kotim
yac-chaktir asti jagad-anḍa-caya yad-antaḥ
anḍantara-stha-paramanu-cayantara-stham
govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami
[Bs 5.35]
This Govinda, that is omnipotency. By His one plenary portion, eko 'py asau-one plenary portion, Maha-Visnu. Maha-Visnu, from His breathing many universes are coming out, exhaling and inhaling; many universes are going into the… This is the process of creation and annihilation. Such Maha-Visnu, visnur mahan sa iha yasya kala-visesaḥ [Bs 5.48], that Maha-Visnu is only a partial representation of Govinda. In the Bhagavad-gita also, when Arjuna wanted to understand the extensive potencies of Krsna, how it is working, He replied, bahunaitena kim jnatena tavarjuna
atha va bahunaitena
kim jnatena tavarjuna
ekamsena sthito jagat...
vistabhyaham idam krtsnam
ekamsena sthito jagat
[Bg 10.42]
The sloka is like that. He says, "How extensively I am expanded, how I can explain you in this short time?" Because He was speaking on the war field. "Simply try to understand that by My one plenary portion I enter into this universe or this material world," ekamsena sthito jagat," and therefore the whole universe is eminated."
Therefore here it is said, nihitam ca satye: He is everywhere.
eko 'py asau racayitum jagad-anḍa-kotim
yac-chaktir asti jagad-anḍa-caya yad-antaḥ
[Bs 5.35]
And He is not only in one universe, but there are innumerable universes-everywhere He is there. And not only in the universe, but everyone's heart. You are all sitting here; there are innumerable living entities:
isvaraḥ sarva-bhūtanam
hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati
[Bg 18.61]
Īsvaraḥ, the Supreme Personality of Godhead in His Paramatma feature, He is living within the heart of all living entities. You have got Krsna within your heart. That is the yoga system, actually, to find out where you are sitting and where Krsna is sitting. That is real meditation, not that gymnastics. Real meditation is to search out Krsna within your heart.
There is a verse, Vedic verse: dhyanavasthita-tad-gatena manasa pasyanti yam yoginaḥ [SB 12.13.1]. Yogis, in their mediation, dhyanavasthita-being situated in meditation-dhyanavasthita-tad-gatena manasa: the mind being absorbed in Krsna consciousness. Dhyanavasthita-tad-gatena. Meditation means to become absorbed in the thought of Krsna or Visnu.
That is meditation: dhyanavasthita-tad-gatena manasa pasyanti yam yoginaḥ. This is the yogic practice. Yogic practice is not gymnastic. Actually yogic practice is this, that one has to become purified from all sense-gratificatory methods: sitting in a very nice, sacred place alone-not in a fashionable city or room.
We can, in our bhakti-yoga, we can do anywhere-that is the facility of this bhakti-yoga system. In other yoga system you have to create the required atmosphere; then you can practice yoga. But in this system, bhakti-yoga system, it is so nice, and especially recommended in this age, because you can sit down anywhere and chant Hare Krsna immediately with [indistinct]. That is the advantage of this bhakti-yoga system.
And actually it is happening. These boys and girls, they are not practicing any different kind of meditation-simply by hearing the word Krsna and Hare immediately begin this meditating on Krsna. And that is also recommended in the Bhagavad-gita, that yoginam api sarvesam. There are different kinds of yogis. Of all the yogis, yoginam api sarvesam mad-gatenantaratmana [Bg 6.47]. Within the heart also, within the mind, one who is always thinking of Krsna.
You can do it. If you see this Krsna Deity constantly, naturally there will be an impression within your mind. And if you think constantly about the Deity and Krsna, and you hear about Krsna-as soon as you hear about Krsna, immediately you think of Krsna-in this way if you live, then you become the topmost. We have written therefore this book, Krsna Consciousness is the Topmost Yoga System.
So it is very fortunate that we meet on this auspicious evening to discuss about Krsna. The more we discuss about Krsna, the more we will become advanced. This is the process of Krsna consciousness: srnvatam sva-kathaḥ krsnaḥ. Krsna…, in the presence of Krsna we are discussing, having discourse about Krsna. Sastra says that when Krsna sees that you are interested very much in such topics of Krsna consciousness as we are trying to explain different ways-philosophically, scientifically… So actually the process is hearing.
srnvatam sva-kathaḥ krsnaḥ
punya-sravana-kirtanaḥ
[SB 1.2.17]
This hearing process is so nice that even if you do not understand the philosophy, simply as you are hearing also you are becoming a pious…
srnvatam sva-kathaḥ krsnaḥ
punya-sravana-kirtanaḥ
[SB 1.2.17]
One who is describing, sravana-kirtanaḥ-sravana means hearing, and kirtanaḥ means chanting or describing. Just like I am describing; you are hearing.
So even we are all fools, simply by describing and simply by hearing, we are all becoming pious. Punya-sravana-kirtanaḥ. You take advantage of this hearing and chanting, punya-sravana-kirtanaḥ, become automatically pious. If you want to become pious man you have to give in charity so many things. Just like people are opening hospitals, those who have got money. But those who have no money, how he will become pious, free of charge, without any money? Simply hear about Krsna and you become pious.
Devotee: Jaya! All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
Prabhupada: This is the cheapest method to become pious, religious, philosopher, everything: sarvair gunais tatra samasate suraḥ [SB 5.18.12]. All good qualities will develop. Srnvatam sva-kathaḥ krsnaḥ punya-sravana-kirtanaḥ.
Then as soon as you become pious, what is the result? The result is hrdy antaḥ-stho hy abhadrani: all these dirty things which is accumulated within the heart, Krsna helps to cleanse it. And mukti means to cleanse the heart. That's all. To come to the real understanding, that is mukti.
At the present moment, our heart being polluted in so many material contaminations, we do not know what is our actual position. We do not know it. They are ignorant, just like animals. But a human life is not meant for this purpose-to remain animal throughout the whole life. You should become pious, religious human being. That is success of life.
Thank you very much.
Devotees: All glories to Prabhupada… [break]
Prabhupada: …questions on the subject matter of speaking, if some portion of the speech is not understood, then questions will be given. Not a different matter should be known. That is not the system.
[break] Yes. The nonsense human beings, the same thing [indistinct]: "Let us kill them-there will be no disease." Do you think that that is a very nice philosophy, that a person is suffering from some disease, then kill him so that the disease and the sufferer goes away, finished? Would you like this? Hah?
Guest: I don't like it, but it is happening.
Prabhupada: Happening? It does not happen; you are thinking it is happening. [break]
Guest: [indistinct]
Prabhupada: You must know Krsna. Na jayate na mriyate va [Bg 2.20]. That is [indistinct; microphone problems] We are so foolish that still they are [indistinct].
[break] …that Krsna said those who are not taking to this Krsna consciousness: na mam prapadyante… Krsna consciousness means to surrender to Krsna: sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg 18.66]. So we are teaching these boys and girls to surrender to Krsna. I have no difficulty. I have not manufactured anything. The thing is already there. Krsna says, "Surrender unto Me." I simply say, "Surrender to Krsna."
Devotees: Jaya! Haribol!
Prabhupada: What is the difficulty? And [laughs] by simply doing this I have become a great spiritual master. [laughter] I am surprised why they worship me as spiritual master. I am a damn rascal, but I am… [loud laughter] But I know I have not adulterated the word of Krsna. That's all.
Devotees: Haribol.
Prabhupada: I have not become a big yogi and commentator on Bhagavad-gita and doing something rascaldom. I am simply saying the words of Krsna. Krsna says, "Surrender unto Me." He's God; He's Krsna. I am saying, "Please surrender to Krsna."
Devotee: Haribol.
Prabhupada: So it is very simple to understand who is a rascal. Anyone who is not Krsna consciousness, he is a rascal. Bring any scientist, any yogi, any jnani before me, I will prove that he is a rascal number one.
Devotees: Haribol! Jaya! [loud applause]
Prabhupada: So that is my request, that to understand who is a rascal is not very difficult thing. Simply try to know whether he has got any Krsna consciousness, or God consciousness. That will be known. How? Yasyasti bhaktir bhagavaty akincana sarvair gunais tatra samasate suraḥ [SB 5.18.12]: "Anyone who has got Krsna consciousness, all godly qualities will develop." Not that a man is doing all nonsense, and he says, "I am Krsna conscious." No. If one is Krsna conscious, then all godly qualities will develop.
So this is practical test. Anyone can understand. Bhaktiḥ paresanubhavo viraktir anyatra syat [SB 11.2.42]. These European and American boys, from their childhood they were accustomed to take meat, wine, and accustomed to so many nonsense things-according to our Vedic standard most abominable, condemned. But just see how they have given up very easily. Very easily. That is this test of Krsna consciousness. Not that I am doing all nonsense and I am Krsna conscious. That is nonsense. There must be symptoms.
Just like if one man is rich man, then there must be symptoms: he must have a good car, he must have good dress. Oh, yes, if he says, "I am a very rich man," we cannot admit. Similarly, when one person is freed from all this material attachment-bhaktiḥ paresanubhavo viraktir anyatra syat [SB 11.2.42]-he will have aversion for all these nonsense things.
As Yamunacarya says: yad-avadhi mama cetaḥ krsna…
yad-avadhi mama cetaḥ krsna-padaravinde
nava-nava-rasa-dhamany udyatam rantum asit
tad-avadhi bata nari-sahgame smaryamane
bhavati mukha-vikaraḥ susthu nisthivanam ca
Sri Yamunacarya says, "Since I have developed my Krsna consciousness," yad-avadhi mama cetaḥ krsna-padaravinde, "always thinking on the lotus feet of Krsna," yad-avadhi mama cetaḥ krsna-padaravinde nava-nava-rasa-dhamany udyatam rantum asit, "every moment I am getting new pleasure." And what about our material life? Bata nari-sahgame: "The highest material pleasure is sex life-to enjoy woman. As soon as I think of it, I spite on it." These are the test, how we are advancing in Krsna consciousness. You can test yourself, how we have become detestful to this material enjoyment.
So this Krsna consciousness movement is pure, authorized, based on Vedic principles. So anyone who takes to it, he will be benefited surely; there is no doubt. And customer will increase gradually. But still you cannot have many customers for diamond-that is also another fact. Just like Krsna also says in the Bhagavad-gita,
manusyanam sahasresu
kascid yatati siddhaye
yatatam api siddhanam
kascin vetti mam tattvataḥ
[Bg 7.3]
"Out of many thousands of men, one may be trying to become perfect in his life; and out of many perfect men, one may know Krsna in truth." But Krsna is so kind that in this age He has given a special facility: that you chant Hare Krsna mantra, your heart will be purified and you will be able to understand what is Krsna.
Thank you very much. [end]

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