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Prabhupada: ...all the leaders.
pisaci paile yena mati-cchana haya
mayar grasta jivera se dasa upajaya
[Prema-vivarta]
mayar grasta jivera se dasa upajaya
[Prema-vivarta]
[break] ...must have undergone severe austerities and penances and developed his spiritual consciousness. Then he can be priest. Not any man with a sacred thread and ghanta, belling, become a priest. [break] ...priestly class, all rotten class. In Christian world also-drunkards, nonsense, woman-hunters, and they are priests. So also in India. Any man with a two-paisa-worth sacred thread, he becomes a brahmana and priest. How the people will be guided? The priest... The exact Sanskrit name is puro-hita, who can actually...
Indian man (1): Puru-bhagata.
Prabhupada: No, not puru-bhaga. Pura, yes; pura-bhaga, for welfare. By his advice... Just like Gargamuni is called for the advice, future of the child.
Indian man (1): [Sanskrit]
Prabhupada: Ah, hita-kartrka[?] [break] ...vacate his chair to receive a brahmana, a puro-hita. Just like Sudama Vipra went to Dvaraka. He was poor man, but he was brahmana. Immediately Krsna left His..., offered His chair. Yes. And Rukmini began to fan him. So much respect. Where is that respectful person? [aside:] Hare Krsna.
Giriraja: "He received Gargamuni with the feeling of one who is worshiping God or the Supreme Personality of Godhead. He offered him a nice sitting place, and when he sat down Nanda Maharaja offered him a warm reception." [break]
Prabhupada: ...presence of a brahmana, of a sannyasi in the household, in the house of a householder, means to enlighten. Mahad-vicalanam nrnam grhinam grhacet dina-cetasam [SB 10.8.4]. The grhastha, they are very cripple-minded. They are satisfied with the family, and they do not know that anything else to do. Therefore it is the duty of the sannyasi and the brahmanas to go to the householders' home and enlighten them spiritually. Therefore puro-hita. Go on. [break] ...pura. Pura-sara means "in the front", and hita means welfare. So one who conducts welfare of the householder, guru-puro-hita. Every family must have guru and puro-hita for spiritual advancement. [aside:] Hare Krsna. Jaya.
Indian man (1): For all the vices...
Prabhupada: Yes. [break]
Giriraja: " '...in household duties and are forgetting our real duty of self-realization.' " [break]
Prabhupada: ...grha-medhinam. Apasyatam atma-tattvam grhesu grha-medhinam [SB 2.1.2]. Those who are grhamedhis and do not know anything else except maintaining the family, they are called grhamedhi. And those who are cultivating spiritual consciousness in grhastha life, with family and children, they are called grhasthas. That is the difference between grhamedhi and grhastha. So grhamedhi, they have no aim of life, of self-realization. Apasyatam atma-tattvam. That is described in the Srimad-Bhagavatam. Nrnam santi sahasrasah [SB 2.1.2].
[break] ...self-realization. Nrnam santi sahasrasah. Apasyatam atma-tattvam, who cannot see what is the atma-tattvam, what is the path of self-realization, grhesu grhamedhinam. Therefore it is the duty of the sannyasi... Sannyasi does not mean that he will beg for fulfilling his hungry belly. Sannyasi means he must enlighten-that is sannyasi-in Krsna consciousness.
[break] ...rajendra nrnam santi sahasrasah apasyatam atma-tattvam grhesu grha-medhinam [SB 2.1.2]. This is the Sukadeva Gosvami says that srotavyadini rajendra, subject matter for hearing, nrnam, for the human being, nrnam santi sahasrasah, thousands of... Just like in the newspaper in the morning, thousands of varieties of news they will attend, and ask them to attend the maṅgala-arati for self-realization, "No, that is not... You are disturbing. Nonsense."
This is grhamedhi. Grhesu grhamedhinam. Vedic culture is that one must rise early in the morning. And even Krsna in His grhastha life, immediately He rose up. Rukmini was disturbed because womanly nature, and again immediately taking bath, meditation. This is Vedic culture. And sleeping up to seven, and then unless takes bed tea, without washing teeth, and he is advanced. You see. And if one is asked to "Rise early in the morning and wash yourself, take your bathing and attend maṅgala-arati," "Oh, this is old way. Bhajana nonsense." You see. Grhesu grhamedhinam.
Giriraja: "Actually a saintly person or a brahmana has no business visiting householders who are busy in the matter of dollars and cents." [break]
Prabhupada: But that is now neglected.
Dr. Patel: So we have come.
Prabhupada: Oh, thank you very much.
Dr. Patel: You came very early. [break]
Prabhupada: ...guru more murkha dekhi karila sasana .
Dr. Patel: Now I own it.
Prabhupada: It is better remain a fool. That is very progressive.
Indian man (2): Fools are always ready, receptive. [break]
Prabhupada: But "I am fool, I must receive." That... These Sikh section. The Sikh means you always learn. Sikh, siksa. Go on. [break]
Giriraja: "...one who is expert in the knowledge of the Supreme."
Prabhupada: Yes, that is. Brahma janatiti brahmana.
Dr. Patel: Brahma janatiti brahmano 'ham.
Prabhupada: Brahma-vidan srestha, the best of the... Just like dvija-srestha, another name.
Dr. Patel: Not those born in brahmana families, they are not brahmanas. [break]
Prabhupada: Nanda Maharaja did not know who is Krsna.
Dr. Patel: When did he know that He, Krsna, was really the son of Devaki? I think after the..., just now only.
Prabhupada: Just now only. He is disclosing. He has given... [break] ...bahuni me janmany vyatitani tava carjuna [Bg 4.5]. Same thing. "I had many, many births before." That is confirmed here.
Giriraja: "Just as demigods are always protected by Lord Visnu, so the devotees of your child will always be protected by Narayana." [break]
Prabhupada: ...accept that process. [break] ...cation.
Dr. Patel: They do all sorts of things. [break]
Prabhupada: Without any advertisement, without any..., how one can stop this?
Indian man (2): It is not possible. [break]
Giriraja: " 'The child is very clever. After breaking the pot He has left this place fearing punishment.' After she sought all over she found a big wooden grinding mortar kept upside down, and she found her son sitting on it. He was taking butter which was hanging from the ceiling on a swing and was feeding it to the monkeys. She saw Krsna looking this way and that way in fear of her because He was conscious of His naughty behavior.
After seeing her son so engaged, she very silently approached Him from behind. Krsna, however, quickly saw her coming toward Him with a stick in her hand, and immediately He got down from the grinding mortar and began to flee in fear. Mother Yasoda chased Him to all corners, trying to capture the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is never approached even by the meditations of great yogis. In other words, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krsna, who is never caught by the yogis and speculators, was playing just like a little child for a great devotee like Mother Yasoda. Mother Yasoda, however, could not easily catch the fast-running child because of her thin waist and heavy body.
Still she tried to follow Him as fast as possible. Her hair loosened, and the flowers in her hair fell to the ground. Although she was tired, she somehow reached the naughty child and captured Him. When He was caught, Krsna was almost on the point of crying. He smeared His hands over His eyes, which were anointed with black eye cosmetics. The child saw His mother's face while she stood over Him, and His eyes became restless from fear. Mother Yasoda could understand that Krsna was unnecessarily afraid, and for His benefit she wanted to allay His fears. Being the topmost well-wisher of her child, Mother Yasoda began to think..."
Prabhupada: Hare Krsna, jaya.
Giriraja: "...'If the child is too fearful of me, I don't know what will happen to Him.' Mother Yasoda then threw away her stick. In order to punish Him, Mother Yasoda thought to bind His hands with some ropes.
Prabhupada: [indistinct] medical science also....not imperfect ....this is the statement..
Giriraja: "She did not know it.."
Dr. Patel: [indistinct]
Prabhupada: [indistinct]
Giriraja: "She did not know it but it was actually impossible for her to bind the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Mother Yasoda was thinking that Krsna was her tiny child; she did not know that the child had no limitation. There is no inside or outside of Him, nor beginning or end. He is unlimited and all-pervading. Indeed, He is Himself the whole cosmic manifestation. Still, mother Yasoda was thinking of Krsna as her child. Although He is beyond the reach of all senses, she endeavored to bind Him up to a wooden grinding mortar. But when she tried to bind Him, she found that the rope she was using was too short-by two inches. She gathered more ropes from the house and added to it..."
Prabhupada: Actually it was unlimited, therefore always short.
Dr. Patel: [indistinct]
Prabhupada: [indistinct] when He agrees, that now you can see Me..
Dr. Patel: And then the [indistinct]... by the grace... [indistinct]...
Giriraja: "Still, mother Yasoda was thinking of Krsna as her child. Although He is beyond the reach of all senses, she endeavored to bind Him up to a wooden grinding mortar. But when she tried to bind Him, she found that the rope she was using was too short-by two inches. She gathered more ropes from the house and added to it, but at the end she found the same shortage. In this way, she connected all the ropes available at home, but when the final knot was added, she saw that it was still two inches too short. Mother Yasoda was smiling, but she was astonished. How was it happening?
In attempting to bind her son, she became tired. She was perspiring, and the garland on her head fell down. Then Lord Krsna appreciated the hard labor of His mother, and being compassionate upon her, He agreed to be bound by the ropes. Krsna, playing as a human child in the house of mother Yasoda, was performing His own selected pastimes. Of course no one can control the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The pure devotee surrenders himself unto the lotus feet of the Lord, and who may either protect or vanquish the devotee. But for his part, the devotee never forgets his own position of surrender. Similarly, the Lord also feels transcendental pleasure by submitting Himself to the protection of the devotee. This was exemplified by Krsna's surrender unto His mother, Yasoda.
Krsna is the supreme bestower of all kinds of liberation to His devotees, but the benediction which he bestowed upon mother Yasoda was never experienced even by Lord Brahma or Lord Siva or the goddess of fortune.
The Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is known as the son of Yasoda and Nanda Maharaja, is never so completely known to the yogis and speculators. But He is easily available to His devotees. Nor is He appreciated...."
Giriraja: "Nor is He appreciated as the supreme reservoir of all pleasure by the yogis and speculators. After binding her son, mother Yasoda engaged herself in household affairs. At that time, bound up to the wooden mortar, Krsna could see a pair of trees before Him which were known as arjuna trees. The great reservoir of pleasure, Lord Sri Krsna, thus thought to Himself, "Mother Yasoda first of all left Me without feeding Me sufficient milk, and therefore I broke the pot of yogurt and distributed the stock butter in charity to the monkeys. Now she has bound Me up to a wooden mortar. So I shall do something more mischievous than before." [break]
Dr. Patel: ... have produced penicillin from cow dung, and cow dung actually ...yes.
Indian Man (1): Yes, from soil to various soils..
Dr. Patel: No but this particular cow dung is [indistinct]. But that is why [indistinct].
Indian Man (1): In India about 70% of cows are infected, infected with tuberculosis.
Dr. Patel: [indistinct]. We were talking about penicillin why are you talking about tuberculosis? We were saying that everything is there in the cow dung and you got onto tuberculosis.
Prabhupada: Now... Suppose a cow.
Dr. Patel:. [indistinct] ...cows
Prabhupada: When they go to the slaughterhouse, people are taking.
Indian Man (1): In India, cows are not suffering as much tuberculosis as they are suffering in America. [end]
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