Conversations
1977 Conversations
November, 1977
Room Conversation -- November 2, 1977, Vrndavana
Room Conversation
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November 2, 1977, Vṛndāvana
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Room Conversation
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November 2, 1977, Vṛndāvana
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Sixty-three thousand copies printed.
Kṛṣṇa
book in Spanish, three volumes. [break] I think, 50,000.
Prabhupāda:
Hm?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Yeah, 55,000 copies. Beautiful books, Prabhupāda. This is Volume One, Volume Two, and Volume Three, Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma.
Brahmānanda:
These are printed in America by the same publisher who publishes the English ones.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Now, here's a box.
Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam,
Tenth Canto, Part Two.
Prabhupāda:
English?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Yes, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda:
Another edition.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
This is the first time this is published. You haven't seen this yet.
Brahmānanda:
This is 10.2.
Prabhupāda:
Oh, Tenth Canto.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Yes, 10.2 There's nothing quite as relishable as seeing your books in the English. It's beautiful. These colors...
Prabhupāda:
Read it.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Read it. From anywhere in particular? "The Killing of the Demon Pūtanā." Should I read the chapter summary? "A summary of the sixth chapter is as follows: When Nanda Mahārāja, following the instructions of Vasudeva, was returning home, he saw a great demoniac woman lying on the road, and then he heard about her death. While Nanda Mahārāja, the king of Vraja, was thinking about Vasudeva's words concerning disturbances in Gokula, he was a little afraid and sought shelter at the lotus feet of Śrī Hari. Meanwhile Kaṁsa sent to the village of Gokula a
rākṣasī
named Pūtanā who was wandering here and there killing small babies. Of course, wherever there is no Kṛṣṇa consciousness there is the danger of such
rākṣasīs.
But since the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself was in Gokula, Pūtanā could accept nothing there but her own death." Here's some other books, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Should I show you some more?
Teachings of Lord Kapila, the Son of Devahūti.
(devotees exclaim)
Brahmānanda:
You wanted this book. You gave the lectures in Bombay on Kapiladeva's teachings to Devahūti.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Ah, there's nothing like these books.
Upendra:
Oh, it's beautiful, green cover.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
What is the form of this book?
Brahmānanda:
They're Prabhupāda's lectures on the particular verses from that...
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
One lecture after..., one verse after another.
Brahmānanda:
Plus the purports.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Text 29, text 28, text 27. It's one chapter of the
Bhāgavatam
.
Brahmānanda:
Purports and the lectures.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
There's more books.
Brahmānanda:
This is beautiful, Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda:
This is another part?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Look at this! Very high class. You want to lean back, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda:
Hand caught.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Here's a new book.
Prabhupāda:
What is that?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
It's called
Preaching is the Essence.
"His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda." It says, "Compiled by Rāmeśvara dāsa Swami and Śubhānanda dāsa Brahmacārī." It says, "A note of explanation. Every word of the text of this book is taken directly from the books of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda, founder-
ācārya
of the International Society for Kṛṣṇa Consciousness. The text appearing in boldface type is Śrīla Prabhupāda's translations of verses from the Vedic literatures. The text in regular roman type consists of excerpts from His Divine Grace's summary studies and purports. Contents in brief: 1) The mission of the Lord—to give all living entities the benediction of Kṛṣṇa consciousness. 2) It is the duty of the devotee to preach." Each one of these subjects, then they give verses or purports.
Brahmānanda:
All about preaching.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
In other words, a devotee can use this book to learn these verses which substantiate the following points. These are the points. "3) Preaching Kṛṣṇa consciousness is the highest welfare activity. 4) Kṛṣṇa consciousness should be distributed to everyone without restriction."
Prabhupāda:
How many copies?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
This was printed strictly for the devotees, two thousand copies only. It's meant as like a preaching weapon. "5) One who preaches Kṛṣṇa consciousness is dear to Lord Kṛṣṇa and is protected by the Lord. 6) Kṛṣṇa empowers the preacher. The Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement spreads by the mercy of Lord Kṛṣṇa and Lord Caitanya. 7) Preaching is based on compassion. 8) The preacher should practice tolerance. 9) To be effective in preaching, the preacher must be pure and follow the regulative principles. 10) Conditioned souls benefit from hearing Vedic literature,
kṛṣṇa-kathā.
11) The future of the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement." Should I see what it says under that?
Prabhupāda:
Hm.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
The future of this movement? Page 88. "The future of the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. The Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement can save the world. '
Kirāta, hūṇāndhra, pulinda, pulkaśa, ābhīra, śumbha, yavana
[
SB
2.4.18
] and the
khasa
races, and even others who are addicted to sinful acts, can be purified by taking shelter of the devotees of the Lord, due to His being the supreme power. I beg to offer my respectful obeisances unto Him.' Purport: 'The above-mentioned historical names are different nations of the world. Even those who are constantly engaged in sinful acts are all corrigible to the standard of perfect human beings if they take shelter of the devotees of the Lord. Jesus Christ and Hajrat Muhammad, two powerful devotees of the Lord, have done tremendous service on the behalf of the Lord on the surface of the globe. And from the version of Śrīla Śukadeva Gosvāmī, it appears that instead of running a godless civilization in the present context of the world situation, if the leadership of world affairs is entrusted to the devotees of the Lord, for which a worldwide organization under the name and style of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness has already been started, then by the grace of the Almighty Lord there can be a thorough change of heart in human beings all over the world, because the devotees of the Lord are able authorities to effect such a change by purifying the dust-worn minds of the people in general.' " Then it gives so many other quotes. "Kṛṣṇa consciousness will spread all over the world." Then it quotes from the
Caitanya-caritāmṛta.
" 'The Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement will inundate the entire world and drown everyone, whether one be a gentleman, a rogue or even lame, invalid or blind. When the five members of the
Pañca-tattva
saw the entire world drowned in love of Godhead and the seed of material enjoyment in the living entities completely destroyed, they all became exceedingly happy. The more the five members of the
Pañca-tattva
caused the rains of love of Godhead to fall, the more the inundation increases and spreads all over the world.' " [break]
Prabhupāda:
Jaya.
Śrī Nārāyaṇa(?):
(Hindi) ...improvement?
Prabhupāda:
(Hindi) What happened to the car?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Er, do you know the history?
Bhakti-caru:
Yes. First thing they had a flat tire. Then they ran out of gas, and then there was no petrol station. Then they lost the track. They went to some...
Prabhupāda:
So he missed the plane.
Śrī Nārāyaṇa:
Missed the plane. Coming from Delhi?
Bhakti-caru:
Yes. They were supposed to come here at two o'clock.
Prabhupāda:
I have got my car, but they arranged for a Mercedes car.
Śrī Nārāyaṇa:
Mercedes car, bigger car, yes. Oh, I see. So that means God didn't want you to leave. (Hindi)
Prabhupāda:
This is Indian culture.
Śrī Nārāyaṇa:
Indian culture,
Gītā
culture. (Hindi)
Prabhupāda:
Yes.
Yadā yadā hi dharmasya glānir bhavati [Bg.
4.7
]
.
(Hindi) Whenever there are discrepancies in the human society—
tadātmānaṁ sṛjāmy aham
—at that time He appears.
Paritrāṇāya sādhūnāṁ vināśāya ca duṣkṛtām [Bg.
4.8
]
.
This is the program. And when He comes, the time is fixed. So unless one thoroughly studies, they cannot accept. Actually Kṛṣṇa...
Imaṁ vivasvate yogaṁ proktavān aham avyayam
[Bg.
4.1
]
.
This system,
Bhagavad-gītā,
it is yoga,
bhakti-yoga. Bhakti-yoga
is the topmost.
yoginām api sarveṣāṁ
mad-gatenāntar-ātmanā
śraddhāvān bhajate yo māṁ
sa me yuktatamo mataḥ
[Bg.
6.47
]
There are many yogas. The aim is how to come to the topmost yoga. That is
bhakti-yoga.
And Kṛṣṇa says to Arjuna,
bhakto 'si me.
What is that verse? Eh?
Evaṁ purātanaḥ yogaḥ.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Bhakto 'si me sakhā ceti.
Prabhupāda:
Ah.
Rahasyaṁ hy etad uttamam.
"Because you are My
bhakta
and friend, therefore I am speaking to you the old system,"
purātanaḥ.
No new system. The people now introduce new system.
Śrī Nārāyaṇa:
Sanātana-jñāna he. Paramparā se.
Prabhupāda:
Paramparā...
(Hindi)...
purātanaḥ yogaḥ.
They introduce their own interpretation. No... (Hindi) There is nothing required. What is that?
Sa te 'haṁ yogaḥ proktaḥ purātanaḥ. Purātanaḥ.
Find out.
Śrī Nārāyaṇa:
(Hindi)
Prabhupāda:
People of the world, they're hankering after this civilization. Unfortunately we are miser. We are not giving them...
Śrī Nārāyaṇa:
All that they should get.
Prabhupāda:
This is not good.
Śrī Nārāyaṇa:
(Hindi)
Prabhupāda:
Where is that
Bhagavad-gītā?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Here, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Can you give me the verse?
Prabhupāda:
Yogaḥ proktaḥ purātanaḥ.
Find out the...
Śrī Nārāyaṇa:
The... Here it says sixteenth (Hindi).
Prabhupāda:
Fourth, fourth.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Yes, I have the fourth chapter. I'm already in the fourth chapter.
Prabhupāda:
Read from the very beginning, fourth chapter.
Śrī Bajaj(?):
(Hindi)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
I have the verse, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
sa evāyaṁ mayā te 'dya
yogaḥ proktaḥ purātanaḥ
bhakto 'si me sakhā ceti
rahasyaṁ hy etad uttamam
[Bg.
4.3
]
Fourth chapter, third verse.
Prabhupāda:
(Hindi) So
yogo naṣṭaḥ parantapa.
Eh? Then?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Next verse?
Prabhupāda:
Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Aparaṁ bhavato janma param...
[Bg.
4.4
]
Prabhupāda:
No.
Sa kālena yogo naṣṭaḥ parantapa.
Read it,
paramparā.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
evaṁ paramparā-prāptam
imaṁ rājarṣayo viduḥ
sa kāleneha mahatā
yogo naṣṭaḥ parantapa
[Bg.
4.2
]
Prabhupāda:
Ah.
Purātana,
the old system... (Hindi)
Yogo naṣṭaḥ purā..., sa kāleneha naṣṭaḥ.
(Hindi)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
You have a very nice purport here, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda:
Hm. Read it?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
It says here, "It is clearly stated that the
Gītā
was especially meant for the saintly kings because they were to execute its purpose in ruling over the citizens. Certainly
Bhagavad-gītā
was never meant for the demoniac persons, who would dissipate its value for no one's benefit and would devise all types of interpretations according to personal whims. As soon as the original purpose was scattered by the motives of the unscrupulous commentators, there arose the need to reestablish the disciplic succession. Five thousand years ago it was detected by the Lord Himself that the disciplic succession was broken, and therefore He declared that the purpose of the
Gītā
appeared to be lost. In the same way, at the present moment also there are so many editions of the
Gītā,
but almost all of them are not according to the authorized disciplic succession. There are innumerable interpretations rendered by different mundane scholars, but almost all of them do not accept the Supreme Personality of Godhead Kṛṣṇa, although they make a good business on the words of Śrī Kṛṣṇa. This spirit is demonic because demons do not believe in God but simply enjoy the property of the Supreme. Since there is a great need of an edition of the
Gītā
in English as it is received by the
paramparā
disciplic succession system, an attempt is made herewith to fulfill this great want.
Bhagavad-gītā,
accepted as it is, is a great boon to humanity. But if it is accepted as a treatise of philosophical speculations, it is simply a waste of time."
Śrī Nārāyaṇa:
(Hindi)
Prabhupāda:
(Hindi) And it is natural.
Śrī Nārāyaṇa:
Natural and it is really marvelous how it has happened.
Prabhupāda:
They were also hankering. And as soon as they got it, they got life.
Śrī Nārāyaṇa:
(Hindi)
Prabhupāda:
Ācchā.
You can go. They will talk with me something.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
You want us to go outside, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda:
Yes.
Śrī Nārāyaṇa:
(Hindi)
Śrī Bajaj:
(Hindi) Excuse me. We are just talking alone with him. [break]
Prabhupāda:
"...after you, who will take the leadership?" And "Everyone will take, all my disciples. If you want, you can take also. (laughter) But if you follow. They are prepared to sacrifice everything, so they'll take the leadership. I may, one, go away, but there will be hundreds, and they'll preach. If you want, you can also become a leader. We have no such thing, that 'Here is leader.' Anyone who follows the previous leadership, he's a leader. 'Indian,' we have no such distinction, 'Indian,' 'European.' "
Brahmānanda:
They wanted an Indian to be the leader?
Prabhupāda:
Yes. (laughs) "Everyone, all my disciples, they are leaders. As purely as they follow, they become leader. If you want to follow, you can become a leader. You are Indian. But you don't want." I told them that.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Yes, they probably wanted to propose somebody who would take over our movement.
Prabhupāda:
Yes. Leaders. All nonsense. Leader means one who has become first-class disciple. He is leader.
Evaṁ paramparā-prāpta...
One who is perfectly following... Our instruction is
āra nā kariha mane āśā
**
.
You know this? What is that?
Guru-mukha-padma-vākya, cittete kariyā aikya, āra nā kariha mane āśā
**
.
Who is leader? A leader, to become leader, is not very difficult, provided one is prepared to follow the instructions of a bona fide guru.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Why did they want us to leave the room? They wanted us to leave the room. They wanted us to go out when they were talking to you.
Prabhupāda:
(laughs) They are going away. Now they are finished. One day... What they will talk? Who will hear?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
They have nothing to talk. Prabhupāda, they said that you are on a coordinating committee. So they want a second person from our Society also to be on the coordinating committee, because you may not always be able to attend the meetings.
Prabhupāda:
No.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
We'll tell them, "No, Prabhupāda said only he alone should be on it."
Prabhupāda:
Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
(laughs) They'll like that.
Prabhupāda:
I also do not want.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
You want your name to be taken off?
Prabhupāda:
Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Really? (laughs) They're very political, these people. He said to me, "Yes, you name another person. We can help you. We have big contacts with the ministers and others."
Brahmānanda:
They mentioned Gopāla Kṛṣṇa, that they met with him about some problem with the government.
Prabhupāda:
Yes.
Brahmānanda:
They can help in something.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
No, that's their idea, that they should have somebody. It's very implicating though. I'll tell you, I wouldn't put anybody on that committee, really. It's very implicating. As soon as you go to that coordinating meeting, you're obligated to give them all kinds of facilities. They have nothing that we want, factually speaking. They have nothing. They have not helped us. (to Brahmānanda:) No, they have not helped us. You're listening to what they say, but I know the facts. I know they haven't helped us.
Prabhupāda:
Tactfully deal with them.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Śrīmān Nārāyaṇa did nothing. Don't get involved with them, because you'll get so obligated. It's better to say that "Prabhupāda said that simply he will be on the coordinating committee. He doesn't want anybody else to be on for now." I'll say like that. For now, you don't want anybody else. You are present, so that you alone will be on it. I like that.
Brahmānanda:
Don't take Prabhupāda's name off.
Prabhupāda:
"And in the absence, we shall select another."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Yes. I felt very bad whenever they tell me to leave the room like that. I don't like to leave you alone. I get very disturbed. I was standing on the other side of the door. I could not... I didn't like it, to be leaving you alone like that. We're trained always to be with you.
Prabhupāda:
Hm. Very carefully deal with them. They are trying to come into the institution to grasp the power gradually.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
That's the point. I can understand that.
Prabhupāda:
How much urine I passed?
Bhakti-caru:
Ninety, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Prabhupāda has not drank that much yet. Did he have milk and barley water?
Bhakti-caru:
Not today.(?) But he doesn't want to take barley and water. (Bengali)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Śrīla Prabhupāda? I'm going to take a short little rest now. Taking a little rest, just short. Then I'll come back.
Prabhupāda:
Very carefully deal with them. They want to enter into our management.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Yes. I'm just thinking about looking... I want to read our memorandum, because as far as I remember, the life members have the right to vote in our Society. That may be one way. They may read the memorandum and see that "We can vote." Then, by doing some politics, they create some difficulty by voting and put one of these materialistic men in charge. Good reason to remain with us, Śrīla Prabhupāda. They won't do anything while you are present. It's better that you should remain with us. Then they won't be able to do anything.
Prabhupāda:
Kṛṣṇa will protect you. Try.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Yes. They're very politically minded.
Prabhupāda:
Oh, yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
They're not at all interested in the
Bhagavad-gītā
. And that purport I read was perfect. That purport that I read was all about doing some nonsense interpretation. That's exactly what they do. Unwilling to admit the Personality of Godhead Kṛṣṇa, but enjoying the property of Kṛṣṇa—that's their business.
Brahmānanda:
They do not believe in God.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
They're atheists. So we'll deal with them very carefully, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda:
Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Jaya
Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Brahmānanda:
He's meeting with the Prime Minister tomorrow. Nārāyaṇa is having a meeting tomorrow with the Prime Minister and Defense Minister at the Gandhi Memorial Society.
Prabhupāda:
Where?
Brahmānanda:
In Delhi. [break]
Prabhupāda:
Jaya
. (Hindi)
Guest (1):
(Hindi)
Prabhupāda:
(Hindi) There is good demand all over the world. (Hindi) "Kṛṣṇa is not person; Kṛṣṇa is consciousness." (Hindi) Kṛṣṇa personally speaking, and "He is consciousness." He says,
yadā yadā hi dharmasya glānir bhavati bhārata [Bg.
4.7
]
.
"I come down." (Hindi) Māyāvādī. Caitanya Mahāprabhu has condemned,
māyāvādi-bhāṣya śunile haya sarva-nāśa
[
Cc.
Madhya
6.169
]
.
(Hindi)
Yogaḥ proktaḥ purātanaḥ.
Kṛṣṇa said that "I am speaking to you the old yoga system." (Hindi) ...not my interpretation. (Hindi) [break] Kṛṣṇa is person. Where is that verse in the Tenth Canto?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
In the
Bhagavad-gītā
?
Prabhupāda:
Paraṁ brahma paraṁ dhāma pavitraṁ paramaṁ bhavān
[Bg.
10.12
]
.
Bhakti-caru:
Tenth Chapter.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
paraṁ brahma paraṁ dhāma
pavitraṁ paramaṁ bhavān
puruṣaṁ śāśvataṁ divyam
ādi-devam ajaṁ vibhum
[Bg.
10.12
]
Prabhupāda:
Puruṣaṁ śāśvatam. Govindam ādi-puruṣam.
[break] This is understanding of
Bhagavad-gītā.
But they'll not do that. What can be done? They cannot preach
Bhagavad-gītā. Sarvam etad ṛtaṁ manye
[Bg.
10.14
]
.
Next line?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Yan māṁ vadasi keśava, na hi te bhagavan vyaktiṁ vidur devā na dānavāḥ.
Prabhupāda:
Ah. (Hindi) "I have come personally."
Yadā yadā hi dharmasya [Bg.
4.7
]
. Bhagavad-gītā
. (Hindi) ...as it is. (Hindi)
Bhagavad-gītā
as it is, never say. (Hindi) ...imagination... (Hindi) Simply waste of time.
Śrama eva hi kevalam
[
SB
1.2.8
]
. Vāsudeve bhagavati bhakti-yogaḥ prayojitaḥ, janayaty āśu vairāgyam
[SB
1.2.7
]
. Janayaty āśu vairāgyam.
(Hindi)
Yaḥ śāstra-vidhim utsṛjya vartate kāma-kārataḥ, na siddhiṁ sāvāpnoti
[
Bg
.
16.23
]
.
(Hindi) There is good demand all over the world. (Hindi) Nobody can turn them now.
Jaya.
Thank you very much.
Bhakti-caru:
(Bengali) [break]
Prabhupāda:
What is the report?
Akṣayānanda:
They have just... Śrī Nārāyaṇajī and Rāma-Kṛṣṇa Bajajī have just left. I just saw them off. They are very happy. All the members of the committee, of their committee, they made a prayer that Your Divine Grace would have long life and good health. And regarding their meeting, I simply put their... They had the loudspeaker outside. I just put it inside so no passerby can hear, and they just did their business and left. They had no problems.
Prabhupāda:
What resolution they passed?
Akṣayānanda:
I do not know. (Prabhupāda laughs) I could not attend it, Śrīla Prabhupāda. I had to go... Next door we had some work with one
bābājī.
We had given him money last year, and I had to get that money back for his land. They're given a security.
Prabhupāda:
Money?
Akṣayānanda:
Yes. We were using his land for a sewer, water waste. So we had given him two thousand rupees' security. We were going to buy that land. You remember once Your Divine Grace came to see it. We were going to put all that waste water and make a garden and all this. So now we have connected with the municipal sewer line, so there's no need for that land, and that problem is solved. So we took the money back that we had given as a security. I have been there for the last two or three hours, so I was unable to come.
Prabhupāda:
They have returned the money.
Akṣayānanda:
Yes, they have returned it. Bhagatji was there. He arranged everything. He is
pakka bāniyā.
He has arranged very nicely.
Prabhupāda:
What about the gate?
Akṣayānanda:
That's going on. Construction is going on. Saurabha Mahārāja came yesterday, and he has given that idea. He had some objection before. He's clarified that objection. It was an architectural point, just for the beauty. So he's clarified that with the engineer, and it's going on now. I haven't had time, Prabhupāda, to talk to the members—some of the members are still remaining-about their conference, because I had to go for this work. But I'll go now and meet some of these gentlemen, get some idea what is their aims and objectives and resolutions. Otherwise, unfortunately, I could not be present there. But I'll give you a report.
Prabhupāda:
Their aims and object is superficially good, that "We altogether preach." But they do not know the ways. That is their defect. Neither they'll take up as it is. So it will be failure.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
It is already failure.
Akṣayānanda:
It is failure.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
The only success they had here is that they got your
darśana
and the
darśana
of Kṛṣṇa-Balarāma. In that sense it was a great success.
Prabhupāda:
They do not want anything. They want to assemble together and have some excursion.
Jagadīśa:
No more than croaking frogs.
Akṣayānanda:
Śrīla Prabhupāda, this morning, in the
Bhāgavata
class, we read a verse how Bali Mahārāja had been awarded all material opulences by the Lord—because of his devotion, not because of his
puṇya.
So I gave lecture to the devotees—in the same way Your Divine Grace, because of your devotion and preaching, Kṛṣṇa has given you every facility for propagating the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, and although there are other nice movements in India, actually they should all join you. They should all surrender to you. We want that everyone should actually join us at your lotus feet because you have actually been given all
śakti
by Lord Kṛṣṇa.
Kṛṣṇa-śakti vinā nahe tāra pravartana.
So I told the devotees like this. "Do not be misled by others, even though they may be appearing to do nice work." Actually you are the only one who is really distributing the message of Lord Kṛṣṇa. This is very obvious by the result. These others have not made even one foreign disciple. And if they did make one, he could not give up smoking, drinking and this and that. So there is no benefit whatsoever. Any intelligent person can see. Plus you have given us so much nectar. Prahlāda Mahārāja says
mahāmṛta
. I always think of that verse. You have given us so much nectar to absorb our minds in. There is really no chance that we will be influenced by these dry personalities.
Prabhupāda:
Now you take up seriously and distribute. (aside:) It has finished.
Upendra:
Twenty-five.
Prabhupāda:
Only?
Upendra:
Yes.
Akṣayānanda:
Prabhupāda, we are very much relieved that you decided to stay. We are feeling very much happy that you are still remaining here. That trip would have been very difficult for you. (long pause; devotees chanting
japa
)
Prabhupāda:
Who's the, is in...? Who's the, is in pot?(?) (long pause) It is finished.
Upendra:
One hundred.
Prabhupāda:
One hundred?
Upendra:
Yes. I think before because you were talking. You were engaging in conversation... Śrīla Prabhupāda, I'll just rub some
śuṣka muladi
oil on your feet. [break]
Bhavānanda:
Actually I think you're the only one on the whole planet who is not Māyāvādī-Māyāvādī or influenced by Māyāvādī philosophy. Actually until you came to the West, the only philosophy that had come to America from India was Māyāvādī philosophy. No one knew anything else. [break]
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Each verse is like a separate lecture, Śrīla Prabhupāda. What, Śrīla Prabhupāda?
Prabhupāda:
We shall chant our beads or read book?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Which would you like?
Prabhupāda:
For me, everything is all right.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
So we can chant
japa
for a little while.
Prabhupāda:
All right.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
And then we can read again. All right?
Prabhupāda:
Yes. (devotees chant
japa
) [break]
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
I received some results of book distribution from September, worldwide, very extraordinary figures. Actually they are astounding figures.
Prabhupāda:
(chuckles) That is right. He misses news.(?) [break]
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
This resting is very good.
Kavirāja
said that two things, resting and passing urine, are signs of recovery for you. Sleeplessness is bad. But constant resting means that the body is getting a chance to renew itself and take strength. He said that we should look for that resting as a sign of gradual recovery, called "rest and recuperation." (background talking)
Prabhupāda:
So?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
I'll just get it, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda:
All right feeling.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
Is that all right? Says, "Book distribution, worldwide." Says here... These are the world totals for the month of September, Śrīla Prabhupāda. In the month of September all over the world they distributed the following number of big books: 215,914. 216,000 big books in one month, Śrīla Prabhupāda. Medium books: 226,000 in one month. Small books: 237,000. And
Back to Godheads:
433,000. Now I calculated, Śrīla Prabhupāda, also the total amount of money realized by the BBT. In the month of September the BBT sold, the temples sold 675,000 dollars' worth of books. In rupees, I figured out it's fifty-nine
lakhs
the BBT sold. Now, the temples, when they..., if they sell a book, they get double the amount of money. You know what I mean? If the BBT sells the book to the temple for say $2.50, the temple gets $5.00 when it sells the book. So I calculated that the temples collected $1,350,000 from selling your books in the month of September, which comes out to one
crore,
seventeen
lakhs
collections from book sales. Then I was calculating what this would mean... (end)
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