Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 7.9.10 – March 11, 1969, Hawaii

690311SB-HAWAII [77:12 Minutes]

The humble and meek will attain the kingdom of God

Prabhupada: [sings:]

[05:36]

So Prahlada Maharaja offering prayers to Lord Nrsimhadeva. The verses are fifty. Fifty verses. The each and every line is so important that all Vaisnavas, they have picked up these prayer as very important within the Srimad-Bhagavatam sastra, scripture. So Prahlada Maharaja is saying that,

Svapacam. Sva means dog, and pacam means cooking. So in the human society, the lowest class of men are considered the dog-eaters. In the Manu-samhita there is a list of different kinds of men eating different kinds of flesh, and in the Ayurveda there is a list of dravya-guna.

Dravya-guna means medical effect of certain type of things. So that is a very big book, and all kinds of vegetables, all kinds of flesh, all kinds of fish and everything is detailed there, and there is description what is the effect of eating such-and-such things.

So it is not that the Vedic civilization does not know what is the effect of eating flesh. They have got very broad analytical knowledge, and in the recent years Mr. George Bernard Shaw, he also said that "You are what you eat." So if you eat a certain type of food, then your constitution of the body, mentality, status-everything-becomes according to that food. That is a fact.

So there is a class of men who are called svapaca. Svapaca means dog-eaters. So the dog-eater is called canḍala, pancama. The human society is divided into four: first class, second class, third class, fourth class, and pancama means fifth class. So these dog-eaters, they are considered as the fifth class.

Those who are flesh-eaters, they are fourth class, and those who are vegetarians, they are first class, second class, third class. And those who are animal-food eaters, they are fourth class; and less than that, those who have no distinction of eating any kind of flesh... There are certain classes of nation also. They say the Chinese people, they eat anything.

So a man is considered to be situated at a certain status of civilization according to the modes of material nature, and that is manifested by eating, by behaving. Acara, vicara. Acara means behavior, and vicara means judgment. By advancement of education one becomes fixed up to take things by judgment. That is called vicara. And acara means cleanliness or behavior. So acara, vicara. The first-, second- and third-class human being, they are situated in acara and vicara.

And in modern civilization also, they say sometimes that a nation is calculated how far he is civilized by the conjunction of amount of soap. That means..., the soap-using nation means that cleansed. So cleanliness is still considered as the civilized status of man. Unclean status... There are different kinds of cleanliness. Inside, vacaḥ bhyantaram. Cleanliness, simply soap and water cleanliness, is not cleanliness. Inside cleanliness also required.

Inside cleanliness, daily clearing the bowels. In the yoga system this is very necessary. They have got a system if the bowel is not clear, then dhokhi; it is called dhokhi. The intestines should be cleared. So they have a process. Some of the yogis, they are so expert that they can take out the intestine from the abdomen and clear it and put it again. Yes. This is… These are the perfection of yoga system.

So inside cleanliness is very important thing. If the bowel is not clear, if the stools are congested… The appendicitis disease, it means that those who are constipated, gradually inside their stool becomes dry, and it becomes a block to the intestine. So if it becomes too much blocked, if it is not possible to be cleared, then the modern medical science, they cut the abdomen and cut the part and clear it, and again stitch it. That is appendicitis, so far I know-I am not medical man. There are so many diseases that is due to this nonclearance of the intestines. You see?

Therefore we have to eat in such proportion and such kind of food that inside intestines may remain always clear. In a Bengali proverb there is a saying that bhuri and muri. If your these two things are very clear, then there is no question of disease. Bhuri means this abdomen, and muri means this head. If you keep your head and the belly very clear, then you are free from all disease.

So the yoga process, by breathing exercise, by that dhokhi process, there are so many…, by sitting posture, so many things-the whole thing is that keep the body very fit, brain clear, so that one can think of higher subject matter very nicely. And the more we eat nonsense things, which our nature cannot accept…

So there are different classes of men and different kinds of eating. So there is a class of men, dog-eaters. I do not know whether in your country there is any class of men who are dog-eaters, but India, Assam side, there is a class of men who are still dog-eaters. They make a very nice dog preparation. They give the dog to eat rice and molasses mixed together and try to get it eat more and more, so that by suffocation it dies eating, eating.

Then the whole dog is burned, you see, and then they relish that roasted dog. Roasted pig I have seen. There is a class, they roast the pig and they eat. So this class of men, they roast dog, and it is called dog cake-kukur-pita. Pita means cake, and dog means…, kukur means dog.

So there are, in different parts of the world, 400,000. And of 4,000…, 8,000,000 million…, 8,400,000, yes. So 8,000,0000 other than human being, and 400,000 human being. So amongst this 400,000 different species of human being, all classes of… They do not accept species; they say classes. All right. So here, svapacam varistham:

So here Prahlada Maharaja is giving preference to a person who is born in a family of dog-eaters. Then to be a brahmana, qualified brahmana, with twelve qualifications-education, qualification-but still if he is impersonalist, or voidist… Generally when, at the modern age, when one becomes very much advanced in so-called education, he becomes impersonalist, voidist. So Srimad-Bhagavatam, through Prahlada Maharaja's authority, is condemning.

He says that "Such kind of learned brahmana, even though he is qualified academically and other brahminical qualification, but if his only disqualification is that he is not a devotee, then he is lower…, he is not even equal to the person who is born in a family of dog-eaters, but he is a devotee."

So two things have to be studied here: that to become a devotee does not require to take birth in high aristocratic family or brahmana family, because here it is said svapacam varistham. That means the person who is considered to be the less than the fourth-class man, he also exalted if he is devotee. What is the reason? Because devotee means,

Because a devotee means one who has dedicated-I have already explained the other day-dedicated his body, mind and words for Krsna. That is the test of devotee, whether he has engaged these three things to the service of the Lord. Then he is devotee. Body… Because our all activities are based on these three principles. With mind we plan: thinking, feeling and willing. And willing is given practical shape by the bodily work, or words, by speaking.

So this is the test of a devotee. Prahlada Maharaja says he may be born in a family of the dog-eaters, but because he has engaged his body, mind and words for Krsna, for service of Krsna, then he is better, he is superior, he is in superior position than the so-called brahmana with all good qualifications but without any devotional spirit.

And why he is preferred? Pranam punati sa kulam. This man, this svapacam, or the man born in the family of canḍala, he is able to deliver his whole dynasty. Whole dynasty, sa kulam. This very word is used here, pranam punati. He personally becomes purified. There is no doubt about it. Pranam. His life is perfect, punati. Punati means purified, and sa kulam, sa kulam means along with his family members.

He is not only personally becoming purified, but his parents, his parents' father, his father, his brother, his… Sa kulam. Kulam, kulam means the whole family. Sa kulam punati. Aravinda-nabha padaravinda-vimukhat svapacam [SB 7.9.10]. What kind of fifth-class man? He is not fifth-class man. He may be born in a fifth-class family, but he is not fifth class.

Just like Prahlada Maharaja. Prahlada Maharaja, directly his father is a great demon, but he is not demon. It does not mean that a person born of low family is also low. This is not the verdict of Vedas. They... Vedic culture was lost, or put into difficulty, simply for this reason, when the Vedic followers in India, they made these classification of brahmana, ksatriya, as hereditary.

There is hereditary preference, certainly. If a man is born in a brahmana family, that is also stated in the Bhagavad-gita, that… But by the contamination of Kali-yuga, all higher-class families, they have been contaminated. For example, we find it all these in the Prahlada Maharaja's instruction we shall see, that even if one is belonging to the higher-grade families... But that is not simply by birthright.

There are regulative principles. Just like our Society members, simply by being a member of the Society, being situated, is not all. He has to keep himself always alert in the principles. Then he is all right. Otherwise he is fallen down. Similarly, in the Srimad-Bhagavatam and all Vedic scripture it is stated that the brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, the higher class, how they can keep up their status. You must keep your status.

Just like in England the rule is that when a man is recognized as knight or lord by his activities, in order to continue the family as lord family, they have to deposit a certain amount of money so that they can continue to keep up the position of lord family. That amount should be deposited in the government treasury. So you cannot withdraw that, but you can enjoy the interest of it. It is a huge amount. Otherwise how he can keep up the status of lord family? And the eldest son of the family is awarded the title "lord," and he gets that interest and keeps up the status. Perhaps you know it.

So simply to take birth in a big family or a high family is not all. One has to qualify himself and keep up the status, the tradition, of the family. Then he is all right. Otherwise… Similarly, the opposite side: a man may be born in a family of dog-eaters, but if he keeps himself as dog-eater, then he is dog-eater family.

But if he changes his status-no more dog-eater, but he is a devotee-he is not counted as belonging to that family, either this side or that side. A man born in a high family, if he is unable to keep up the status of the standard of living and tradition of that high family, then he does not belong.

Similarly, a man born in the lower family, if he does not keep to the status of that lower family-he takes to the standard of brahmana family, Vaisnava family-then he is to be considered belonging to that status. Not that because he is born in that dog-eater's family he cannot become a brahmana. No. This is not the Vedic injunction.

A person born in the dog-eater's family can be raised to the standard of brahmana family, or a person born in the brahmana family can be lowered down to the status of dog-eater's family if he does not keep the status. So it is the qualification. That is Vedic.

So as soon as this standard method was changed into mechanical-a person born in brahmana family, he may be less than a dog-eater's family; he is worshiped as brahmana-this has ruined the Indian civilization. But Caitanya Mahaprabhu, in this age He did not recognize. He did not recognize. He actually followed the Vedic principle. He said that it doesn't matter; one is not responsible for his birth. How can one be responsible?

May be the father and mother are different, or some way or other he is born in that father and mother, but he has got a certain type of body-but that...

[break] ...responsible for that. He is responsible in the, I mean, the finer sense, that due to some of his past misdeeds he has been born in that way. But that is not the prime responsibility.

The prime responsibility is that everyone is open to accept Krsna consciousness. Just like Prahlada Maharaja: he is born of a demon father, but Krsna consciousness is open for him; he has accepted. So he is not to be considered as one of the members of the demon family. So he is personally recognizing that such a person, even born in lower family, he can purify himself by Krsna consciousness, and he can purify his whole family.

This should be very particularly noted. This word is sa kulam. Sa means with, and kulam means family-sa kulam punati. So pranam punati sa kulam na tu bhūrimanaḥ: "But that man who is simply proud that 'I am born in such-and-such family,' he is a rascal," because this false prestige is rascaldom.

This false prestige has killed the Vedic civilization. When I came to your country, I saw nice boys and girls, finely educated, belonging to respectable family, and they are taking to any kind of work-doesn't matter. So I was very much pleased.

But in India, a man born in brahmana family, and if he is-mostly they are poverty-stricken at the present moment-if he is asked that "You can come, you take daily five rupees. You can wash the dishes," oh, he will never accept. He will starve to death, but he will not accept. You see? He will think, "Oh, I am born in a brahmana family. How can I wash your dishes?" This is false prestige. Why?

"You are not doing the activities of a brahmana. You are poverty-stricken; you are not educated. Why do you claim that you are brahmana?" But that false prestige is there: "Oh, I am brahmana!"

And society accepts also, "Oh…" They will hesitate. Even if he accepts, that "Yes, I shall wash your dishes," the family will not allow him. They will say, "Oh, you are coming from brahmana. How can you wash my…? We shall go to hell." Just see. These notions are there. Just see. So he is suffering, and he is suffering-by this false prestige, you see. Both of them suffering. But when I saw in your country that any boy, any girl, they are prepared to work anything, "Oh, that is very nice. All right. I have no money, so I can accept."

And the present… Considering the present status, everything has topsy-turvy; therefore to bring everything on the equal level of high standard and perfectional standard is Krsna consciousness. If the people of the world accepts this philosophy, Krsna consciousness, there is no more higher and lower level. Samaḥ sarvesu bhūtesu [Bg 18.54]. Samaḥ. Samaḥ means equal-all living entities on the same level. And how it is possible? Brahma-bhūtaḥ [Bg 18.54]: when they are identified with Brahman, that means Krsna. Krsna is Parabrahma.

So when one identifies his body, his mind, his activities-everything-with Krsna, then there is no more such distinction of "higher" and "lower," either in work or in thinking or in action. No more. Because that is the purificatory process. Never mind what was your status of life, what was your family life. It doesn't matter. Pranam punati sa kulam-he is immediately purified. Not only himself, but with his whole family, purified.

Pranam punati. Na tu bhūrimanaḥ: and that man who is under false prestige, impression, that "I am this," "I am that," "I am higher," he cannot deliver himself even, because what is the value of false prestige? False prestige has no value. If you are actually brahmana or if you are actually king, you can be proud of your position that "I am king," "I am this" or "that." But actually if you are less than the svapacam, the dog-eaters, but why should you be proud of your false prestige?

Therefore by that false prestige he cannot even deliver himself, what to speak of his family. That is stated here. That man, svapaca, born..., because he has dedicated his life, his mind and words for Krsna, he is able to deliver himself and his family; but this man who is puffed out with false prestige, he cannot deliver himself only, and what to speak of his family. This is clearly described by Prahlada Maharaja. Tasmin aravinda-nabhe-arpita mano-ardhaya yena tam idam karmah[?]. Manye tad-arpita-mano-vacanehitartha. Because he has dedicated his life for Krsna, therefore he can do this. He can purify himself and purify his family.

[Sridhara Maharaja commentary] ...varistha tu hetu svapaca sarvam kulam punati. Sridhara Maharaja, also..., Sridhara Swami, he is a great learned scholar, original commentator of Srimad-Bhagavatam. He is accepted as the great authority even by Lord Caitanya. He is not an ordinary commentator. So he gives his opinion that varistha tu hetu. Why he is adored so much? Varistha…, sa evam bhutam svapacam. Such kind of svapaca, person born in the family of dog-eaters, sarvam kulam punati, he purifies his whole family.

So these are authoritative statement. Bhūrimanaḥ [indistinct] tu vipra atmanam yena punati. And those who are placed in that false prestige, that "I am this brahmana. I am born in brahmana family. I am this and that," Sridhara Maha…, Sridhara Swami says, "That false pride, prestige," [Sanskrit unclear] sva tu vipra atmanam, "he may be a vipra, a qualified brahmana, but he cannot purify himself, what to speak of his family."

This is the remark by Sridhara Swami. Atmanam yena kutam kulam yatah bhakti hina sa ete gunah [indistinct]. It is very nice comment. He said that without devotional service, without being Krsna conscious, one is surely to become falsely puffed up. Why he says? "Because he has got his bodily concept of life."

Sridhara Maharaja clearly says that bhakti hinasya ete gunah. Ete gunah, all these material qualification, highly educated, and sama, dama, titiksa, practice how to control the mind, senses-everything is complete. So ete gunah, when one becomes such qualified, he becomes proud. That is the material status of life.

Pride is a material… Pride means if one is too much proud of his acquisition, either educational or material wealth, that means he is in the material platform. This very test. A devotee is never proud. He is humble, humble and meek. Just Lord Jesus Christ also said, "The humble and meek will attain the kingdom of God." Is it not?

So Vaisnava is humble and meek. He is not proud, because... [break] ...even if he has got great amount of wealth, good qualification, everything, he thinks that "These things are Krsna's. I am His servant. I have got the opportunity to serve Him with these qualification. If I am highly educated, if I have got good knowledge, if I am great philosopher, scientist-everything-if I do not engage all these qualifications to Krsna's service, then I shall naturally become falsely proud, and that is the cause of my falldown. I will never be able to approach God, because I am not humble and meek."

But as soon as one engages these qualifications for Krsna's service… The scientist, he can present so many scientific thesis to prove that there is God. That is his perfection of scientific knowledge. If a philosopher writes article to convince man that Krsna is the Supreme Personality of Godhead by philosophical thesis…

Because there are men who want to understand the Absolute Truth through philosophy, through science, so it is the duty of those who are scientifically advanced, philosophically advanced or materially advanced or wealthy, they should engage all this for Krsna's service.

Because we have to engage ourself. Devotee means pranair arthair dhiya vaca [SB 10.22.35]. Life, wealth-prana means life. Wealth…, artha means wealth. Prana artha dhiya-intelligence, prana artha dhiya vaca, and words. If one has no money, no intelligence, he can use his words. He can go to the people, and he can say, "Please chant Hare Krsna." He can do. So this preaching work, the service of Krsna, is not, I mean to say, blocked by any disqualification if one is ready to serve.

So Sridhara Maharaja says that this pride, ete gunah [indistinct] bhavanti. If one is simply materially qualified, that becomes the cause of his false prestige and pride, that's all, what to speak of purifying himself. And he… Bhavanti na suddhaye. Suddhaye, suddhaye means purification, the first purificatory process as stated in the Bhagavad-gita, amanitvam adambhitvam ahimsa [Bg 13.8]. Amanitvam-humble and meek. Caitanya Mahaprabhu says, trnad api sunicena taror api sahisnuna -humbler that the blade of grass, and tolerant than the tree.

So these are the qualification, spiritual qualification. So if one becomes falsely proud, then where is his spiritual qualification? Everything is lost, everything gone-immediately. So in spite of his all good qualifications, if he is simply proud, then everything becomes zero.

Of course, not in this country… In our country milk is considered to be very nice, nutritious food; but if there is a drop of wine mixed with milk, it is no more pure; it is finished. If it is touched by the lip of the serpent, it is finished-no more.

Similarly, one may have all these qualifications if he becomes brahmana or ksatriya, or very high class, very aristocratic, all this. That is all right. But if it is simply false prestige, if it is meant simply for showing one's false prestige, then those qualification have no value. And when there is no value, he cannot purify himself, what to speak of purifying his whole family.

But this man who is born in the family of svapacam, dog-eaters, because he has taken to Krsna consciousness, because he has become humble and meek, because he has engaged his body, mind and words for the service of Krsna, he can purify himself, and he can deliver his whole family.

Thank you. [devotees offer obeisances] [break]

Devotee: ...Srimad-Bhagavatam or Vaisnava literature as to how somebody who is born in a low family [indistinct] became a devotee?

Prabhupada: Oh, there are many. Thakura Haridasa: he is born in Muhammadan family, and Caitanya Mahaprabhu gave him the place namacarya. He became the acarya of preaching. The Caitanya Mahaprabhu's whole mission was entrusted to him. Caitanya Mahaprabhu, He appeared for preaching the importance of chanting Hare Krsna, and practically He entrusted the business to Haridasa Thakura, who was by his birth a Muhammadan.

There are many others. Many others. Just like Prahlada Maharaja. He is born of a demon father. He is also acarya. Amongst the twelve recognized acarya of Bhagavata are Sambhu…, Narada, Sambhu, Kumara, Kapila, Manu, Prahlada. There are twelve recognized acaryas of the Bhagavata school, and Prahlada Maharaja is one of them, this Prahlada Maharaja. Because he is born of a demon father, a demonic father… They are…, they can do anything. They are even flesh-eaters. They are everything.

Demons means flesh-eaters. They are doing even, I mean to say drunkards, gamblers, women-hunters. These are the qualifications of the demons. Because demons means materialistic. That's all. And these four qualifications must be there in a materialistic man: women-hunter and drunkard and flesh-eater and gambler. Wherever you find these four principle, they are demons.

So Prahlada Maharaja himself was born of the demon family. He was… His all class friends are born of demon father. His country was demonic country, his family was demonic, and he became a great devotee. Of course, that is very long-time narration, but in our recent years, Haridasa Thakura, he was born of a brahmana..., er, Muhammadan family, and Caitanya Mahaprabhu accepted.

These Gosvamis, Sanatana Gosvami, Rūpa Gosvami, they were, of course, originally they were brahmanas, but they fell down on account of this association. And formerly, they accepted service. Brahmana could not accept any service, and they accepted service of Muhammadan government. So immediately they were, what is called, ostracized from the brahmana society. They are not accepted in the society. They changed their name, Sakara Mallika and Dabira Khasa. But Caitanya Mahaprabhu picked them up and made them gosvamins. Gosvamins means they are great teachers, guru, gosvami means. There are many instances-not one, but many thousands.

And originally, even in the Vedic age, Upanisad age, there is one Satyakam Jabala Upanisad. That story I have told, that the Satyakam, he went to Gautama Muni for initiation. So formerly the spiritual master will not accept anybody as disciple if he is not born in a brahmana family. So he was asked, "Who is your father?" So he could not give his father's name. Then he asked him that "Go to your mother, who is your father. Just try to understand and let me know."

Then he went to his mother. Mother said, "My dear boy, I do not know who is your father. I had many friends. I do not know by whom you are born." And he came back and said Gautama Muni, "My mother said that he [she] had many friends. She cannot say who is my exactly father." "Oh, you are brahmana. Come on. I will initiate you. You are brahmana."

Qualification-he said the plain truth. Qualification. "Come on. I shall initiate." Nobody will say that "Oh, I have no…, my father [mother] had many friends, and I do know what is the…" Everyone will try to hide this. But he plainly said, immediately. And because he was so truthful, therefore his name is Satyakam. Satyakam means he does not lie.

That is the first qualification of a brahmana: satya, he should be truthful, even to the enemies. Nobody becomes truthful to the enemy; he does not disclose the secret. But a brahmana is supposed to be so much truthful that if the enemy asks that "What is your position?" he will say, "This is my position."

So they picked up by quality, what quality is. This is our process. Our Krsna conscious…, Caitanya Mahaprabhu's process is that if anyone is a little inclined to Krsna, so we should give him all facilities to become..., develop Krsna consciousness. That is pancaratrika-vidhi. According to Vedic vidhi, or in the Vedic way… Just like we are initiating. Nobody can be initiated unless they..., he is born of high family.

His father must have been brahmana, ksatriya or vaisya; then he can be initiated. But pancaratrika-vidhi, they say, they accept, nobody is brahmana-sūdra. Everyone is sūdra-kalau sūdra-sambhava. In this age, nobody is actually born of a brahmana family or ksatriya family. That is accepted. Because nobody is keeping up their standard.

They are simply following some false prestige. So therefore the pancaratrika-vidhi, they do not recognize anybody as qualified brahmana. Everyone sūdra, beginning from the lowest stage. Get him conversant in Krsna consciousness, and then initiated, and gradually elevate him by this process.

So our this Krsna conscious movement is based on this process, that we accept everyone as lowborn. Even if he is… My Guru Maharaja, even if he is born of a brahmana family, he would not recognize that he is a brahmana. He would treat him as others. And even if he had his sacred thread from his family, Guru Maharaja will say, "Throw it away. Take new thread." Yes.

The Bon Maharaja, he was coming from a brahmana family; he had to throw away his old sacred thread, and he was further initiated. He did not recognize anyone as brahmana or high class. No. Everyone is sūdra. "Come on. New beginning. New life again." And that is the whole basic principle of our Krsna consciousness movement.

We take everyone as coming from svapacam, but he should be given the chance to become Haridasa Thakura. That is our whole process. Why do you enquire one or two instances? [laughs] This is..., whole process is like that.

Yes. [pause] So? Yes?

Devotee: I wasn't sure of this, but I believe that one of the qualifications of the brahmana is that he had firm religious faith. Is that a qualification of a brahmana, that he has firm religious faith?

Prabhupada: No. There are at least nine qualifications. He must be truthful; he must be controlling the senses, mind; he must be tolerant; then satya sama dama-sauca [Bg 18.42], he must be cleansed; and he must believe in the sastra, in the scriptures; and he must be conversant with the sastric knowledge.

These are the qualification of brahmanas. The first qualification is that he must be truthful, just like this Satyakam. He plainly, plainly said the real truth, and he was immediately accepted, "Yes, you have got the qualification of a brahmana. You can speak the truth."

Truth may be palatable or unpleasant-that does not matter. Everything is palatable to somebody, unpalatable to others-"One man's food, another man's poison." That does not matter. But the thing should be presented as it is. That is required. There is no hide-and-seek policy.

Caitanya Mahaprabhu especially was very much against untruthfulness. The Haridasa… That Junior Haridasa Thakura was rejected because he showed a little symptom of untruthfulness. He was living in the company of Caitanya Mahaprabhu as in renounced order of life, but he had at his heart for sex life, so immediately he was rejected.

Of course, this was a great stricture. But He never rejected grhastas. He knows that grhastha has sex life, so He never rejected. So if you want sex life, become a grhastha. Just have a wife and live peacefully. But if you want to have sex life and at the same time you want to keep yourself as brahmacari, this is not truthful. This is condemned.

That is the, I mean to say, instance shown by Caitanya Mahaprabhu, that Junior Haridasa, he was keeping himself as renounced but thinking of sex. He was rejected. But there are many householder devotees, Caitanya Mahaprabhu accepted them.

So truthfulness in spiritual life..., truthful is very essential. That is the first qualification, brahminical qualification: satya, sama, dama, titiksa, arjavam, and astikyam, jnanam, vijnanam brahma-karma svabhava-jam [Bg 18.42], it is stated in the Bhagavad-gita.

And there are many other qualifications; especially, specifically, a brahmana should have these nine qualifications. But another point is that if one is sincerely in Krsna consciousness, all the good qualifications will come, automatically. Therefore we give more stress on Krsna consciousness, and if he is very sincere in Krsna consciousness, all good qualification will come. [pause]

So chant Hare Krsna. So that record also this? Hare Krsna? [devotees offer obeisances] So we can chant with harmonium? Harmonium? You like? [laughs]

[aside:] Stop it. Stop it. [break]

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[kirtana lead by Prabhupada] [prema-dhvani] All glories to the assembled devotees. All glories to the assembled devotees. Thank you very much.

Devotees: All glories to Srila Prabhupada. [end]