Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 7.6.19–21 – March 7, 1971, Calcutta

Prabhupada: [coughs]

So Prahlada Maharaja concluded that instead of wasting time for so-called material happiness, sense gratification, please engage yourself in the service of Narayana. That conclusion he has made giving his very nice arguments and reasoning that a human being has nothing to do for sense gratification, he has only to act in Krsna consciousness. There is no other engagement. Any other engagement than Krsna consciousness business is sense gratification and that is waste of time. This conclusion is made. Now such a big thing, Krsna consciousness. Does it mean that one has to make a very big attempt for capturing the exalted platform? Prahlada Maharaja says: No, no, no:

Sometimes people deviate from accepting Krsna consciousness, they think that it is very difficult. Sense gratification is very easy but Krsna consciousness accepting [is difficult], actually they think like that. But the real fact is it is more difficult to attain for sense gratification than Krsna consciousness. Krsna consciousness is very easy. These people, for sense gratification, they are trying to adjust these material inconveniences in so many ways. So many parties, so many politicals, socials and educational propaganda but the result is zero. In spite of so much endeavor the result is zero. And so far Krsna consciousness is concerned anyone, anywhere, any part of the world, simply he can chant Hare Krsna mantra and his life becomes successful. [coughs]

Prahlada Maharaja says: "My dear asuratmajaḥ," atmajaḥ means sons. "My dear sons of the asuras." He also admits himself that, "I am also son of asura." So it is not very difficult to develop your Krsna consciousness and Narayana consciousness, the same thing. Why?

Because being the supersoul, the all-pervading supersoul-atmatvat sarva-bhūtanam. Not that Krsna or Narayana is only for the Hindus or for the Indians or for the brahmanas. No. Sarva-bhūtanam, atmavat sarva-bhūtanam. Sarva-bhūtanam means "all living entities." Even animals. Because the Supersoul, atma, Paramatma of every living entity so He is available for everyone. This is not a conclusion that Krsna or Visnu is meant for the Hindus or the Indians or the brahmanas. No, sarva-bhūtanam. Siddhatvad iha vedesu.

So Prahlada Maharaja, expecting that they might say that, "We are only five years old boys, children, how it is possible to accept Krsna consciousness?" So he is convincing them, "So don't think like that." Krsna consciousness is easier because He is everywhere in everyone's heart. You haven't got to go outside to search out Him, simply you have to accept the process and you will find within your heart just near you, Krsna. [coughs] If anyone chants Hare Krsna mantra without any offense, seriously, he will very soon realize that Krsna is just on his tongue, He is dancing there. Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna. No, it is not difficult that you have to search for Krsna, He's all so long, long distance away. You can not approach even Krsnaloka by the airplane of mind and air but a still Krsna is available. At your hand, within your heart: isvaraḥ sarva-bhūtanam hrd-dese 'rjuna tisthati [Bg 18.61]. Simply we have to attach the process, how to realize Him, then it is not at all difficult.

So Krsna can be found, not only within your heart, but also paravaresu, para and avara. There are two creations, one creation is spiritual and another creation is material, that is called paravaresu. Para means-spiritual, avara means-the material. Bhūtesu, bhūtesu there are five elements: earth, water, air, fire and sky. Everywhere Krsna is there, bhūtesu. Brahmanta-sthavaradisu, brahmanta, beginning from the ant up to the Brahma. Ant is the most insignificant creature and Brahma is most important, first created being. Everywhere, in every living entity Krsna is there-isvaraḥ sarva-bhūtanam. Bhautikesu-anything which is material, everywhere: anḍantara-stham-paramanu-cayantara [Bs 5.35].

So he is not only within this universe but he is within the atom. Bhautikesu vikaresu-and the creation by interaction of these five elements. Suppose here is a microphone, it is a creation of the five elements, here is also Krsna. So this is Krsna consciousness. Everywhere is Krsna or everything belongs to Krsna, take it otherwise. Anyway therefore everything should be utilized for Krsna, this is Krsna consciousness. Nothing is without Krsna-isavasyam idam sarvam .

This is the same thing is being explained by Prahlada Maharaja. One has to see Krsna everywhere. Stavara jahgame se dekhe amare muk [?] [Gitar Gan 6.29]. The highly elevated, the devotees, maha-bhagavatas, he never sees anything, he sees simply Krsna, in everything. Stavara jahgame se dekhe [indistinct] He sees trees, he sees animals or man, going, moving, but he does not see them, he sees, "O here is a part and parcel of Krsna moving in this way. Staying in this way." This is Krsna conscious. He does not see the outward covering. Just like when you receive a friend known to you-you don't see his dress, you see your friend. Similarly if you have developed love for Krsna then you will see that everywhere is Krsna existing.

Bhūtesu means living, [coughs] and bhautikesu, bhautik that non-living, matter. Both in living and [indistinct] material elements or entities, everywhere is Krsna. Ajivesu ghatadisu, ajivesu-just like these karatalas, these karatalas has no life but when it is used for chanting Krsna's name, there is Krsna. This is Krsna vision, this is Krsna conscious. Anything used for Krsna consciousness, anything used for Krsna's service, it is not different from Krsna. That is advised here Prahlada Maharaja, he's a maha-bhagavata, he advised, everywhere.

Gunesu means-all the things that is manufactured. We have got so many things therefore gunesu. Guna-vyatikare-everywhere is Krsna. Everywhere is Krsna.

So the atheist class they challenge, "Where is God?" "Can you show me God?" The atheist class. But a devotee is seeing always God, nothing except God. That is the difference between atheist and devotee. Why? Why the devotee sees always Krsna in everything?

This seeing power of Krsna in everything will be possible when the devotees eyes are anointed with the ointment of prema. Premanjana-cchurita, anjana, what is English of anjana? Kal.. Kali?..

Devotee: [indistinct]

Prabhupada: Eh?

Devotee 2: Salve.

Prabhupada: Salve? What is.. what is the spelling?

Devotee: S-A-L-V-E.

Prabhupada: Oh salve, yes. So the salve of love when it is painted or when it is smeared on your eyeballs, then you can see Krsna as He is. So in order to see God, in order to see Krsna we have to paint this salve daily by this daily routine work. Adau sraddha, tato prema [Cc Madhya 23.14-15]. We have to invoke prema. Prema is there within you-krsna-bhakti nitya-siddha [Cc Madhya 22.107].

It is as you are truth, as spirit soul part and parcel of similarly your love for Krsna is also a fact. It is not that artificially we are being taught to love Krsna. Simply it has to be awakened, that's all. Sravanadi-suddha-citte karaye udaya. Udaya means-it is awakened. Not that artificially you are being taught to love Krsna. Nothing artificial can stand, that is not possible.

So in order to invoke that love of Godhead there is process, this is the process. This is the process as prescribed in the sastras: sadhu sastra guru-vakya [Guru-vandana 2]. You have to make progress with reference to the sastras, with reference to the saintly persons, acaryas, and your direct spiritual master. Sadhu sastra guru, tinete koriya aikya.. Adau sraddha tato sadhu-sahga. Sadhu first. Sadhu first. If anyone has got sraddha, a faith for realizing Krsna then he must associate with sadhus.

Our society, this society means it is a society of the sadhus, Krsna consciousness. Don't be asadhu, then your societies name will be spoiled. And what is the symptoms of sadhu? Sadhu means titiksavaḥ karunikaḥ [SB 3.25.21]. Titiksavaḥ-tolerate. If there is any inconvenience in this society don't be disturbed, tolerate, that is the first qualification of sadhu. Don't think, "Oh it is not suitable for me I am going away." No. No. Tolerate. If you can not cope with your friends and god brothers, tolerate, try to pacify.

My Guru Maharaja used to-whenever there were big assembly, there will be difference of opinion, difference of treatment, even we find bad treatment-but titiksavaḥ. One of our god brothers was a big thief, he was stealing money of the society, I don't wish to disclose his name, perhaps you may know. There was complaints to my Guru Maharaja that, "This man is taking all the money for his." So he used to reply, "So why you are complaining? Why you are not sympathetic with your godbrother? He's so much attached to money, can you not turn him to be attached to Krsna? Why you are complaining?" He used to like that. He knew that, "This rascal, he is taking money," and there were complaints but he used to reply. So titiksavaḥ, titiksavaḥ. Sadhu means very tolerant. Trnad api sunicena, taror iva sahisnuna, amanina manadena [Cc Antya 20.21].

The first qualification of sadhu is tolerance. Humbler than the grass and tolerant than the trees. Titiksavaḥ karunikaḥ. One side tolerance another side very compassionate. Preaching. [?] These non Krsna-consciousness people, they are suffering, without Krsna consciousness they are suffering. Let us do some service so that they may come to Krsna consciousness and be happy, this is karunikaḥ, titiksavaḥ karunikaḥ, suhrdam sarva-bhūtanam.

Then preaching should be done only in India? No. Sarva-bhūtanam! All over the world for the. There are not [just] living entities within India or within Hindus. Suhrdam sarva-bhūtanam. All living entities, they should be compassionate, how they are suffering for want of Krsna consciousness. Let them take this Krsna consciousness, these are the sadhu's business, titiksavaḥ karunikaḥ. And if you do that, ajata-satravaḥ, nobody will be your enemy. And depend on this principle Krsna is even enemies they will be [indistinct]. But, don't care for those enemies, you remain firmly with Krsna by speaking His message. Krsna will give you protection. Suhrdam sarva-bhūtanam, sadhavaḥ sadhu-bhūsanaḥ. They are sadhus because they have got all these sadhu characteristics.

So sadhu-sahga-people should be given chance to associate with sadhus then, bhajana-kriya. As soon as one comes in contact with sadhu he will be willing to accept the process of devotional service, initiation. He will be eager to be initiated. Bhajana. And as soon as he is initiated and follows the regulative principles then anartha-nivrttiḥ syat [Cc Madhya 23.14].

All the nonsense habits will disappear. All nonsense automatically. If there is bhajana-kriya, actually, then there automatically there is disappearance of. Anyone who is actually undergoing bhajana-kriya you can not see him smoking and drinking tea it is impossible. Therefore if you see so-called sadhu and so-called Babaji, "Oh its just a puff." Then you must know there is no bhajana-kriya. That is a test! That bhajana-kriya means all this nonsense habits must disappear-bhajana. And without disappearance of the nonsense habits nobody can be attached to Krsna consciousness.

Atha bhajana-kriya, tato nistha, nistha-when anartha-nivrttiḥ, when there is disappearance of unwanted things. Just like our students, they never think of going to the cinema. They're also young men. Because they have no taste for it anymore. Every young man you will see they are standing in line for hours together for purchasing ticket. But Krsna consciousness is so nice that even one is very young, even one has got all the inclinations, he has no more taste, param drstva nivartate [Bg 2.59].

Because he has got better taste he doesn't like this. Anartha-nivrttiḥ, tato nistha-when anartha-nivrttiḥ is there then he is firmly fixed-up, it is to be understood. Firmly fixed-up, he's nistha. Then rucis-love for Krsna, asaktiḥ, without Krsna, just like gopis, of course gopis position is very, very high, but some of them attained asaktiḥ. Krsna is going to Mathura, they are serving.

Hm, asaktiḥ, tathasakti. Then prema, these are the signs of prema. As soon as you reach to the platform of prema, then you see Krsna in every minute, nothing but Krsna. This is perfection of Krsna consciousness. You'll find everywhere Krsna, that is perfect love.

Thank you very much. [break]

Guest: [indistinct]

Prabhupada: How difficult? Anywhere sit down, even if you can't go outside, sit down, chant Hare Krsna and you will develop this highest perfectional stage. What is the difficulty? And for sense gratification, oh how much they are struggling hard. So sense gratification is difficult, Krsna consciousness is not at all difficult. Is that alright, the other side?

Guest: [indistinct]

Prabhupada: Yes.

Guest: [indistinct]

Prabhupada: Yes. It is not at all difficult. It's easier, but the rascal will not accept the religious process. They'll try to be happy by sense gratification. This is maya. He has been made a servant of maya, working day and night very hard for sense gratification. They will reply, "Oh if everyone becomes Krsna conscious who will work like me, like an ass?" That is their argument, "Where the asses will go?" [laughs] Why keep him an ass, why not make him a man? That program is not acceptable, he shall remain ass, sa eva go-kharaḥ [SB10.84.13].

What do you think? Manu. He was a priest in your country, yes, he was intelligent, be prepared.

Guest: [indistinct]

Prabhupada: Eh?

Guest: [indistinct]

Prabhupada: What is that?

Guest: [indistinct]

Prabhupada: Yes.

Guest: [indistinct]

Prabhupada: Yes material nature, that's all, just like we are feeling it is cold, covering, that's all. Matra-sparsas tu kaunteya, sitosna-sukha-duḥkha-daḥ [Bg 2.14]. Because it is cold that does not mean that we shall stop our Krsna consciousness business. Let it go on, tolerate. If there is time crying for a little, but go on with your Krsna consciousness. He is using he is coming by force, all-right let him wait for two minutes, let's finish this business. But they can not stop our Krsna consciousness movement. Just like I may be called for answering natures call, I go, alright, finish it. Like that. For that reason one cannot stop Krsna consciousness. That is not. Tams titiksasva bharata [Bg 2.14]. Krsna advises Arjuna, "Tolerate," it is painful, alright, tolerate. [coughs] That does not mean. That is maya, it is agamapayino 'nityas, it comes and goes they are temporary, disturbing elements. Alright just let him tolerate, that's all. So many things come and go, so we take it like that. You have any questions, Saheeb?

Guest: [indistinct]

Prabhupada: That's alright. Alright. [End]