Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 6.1.38 – December 20, 1970, Surat

Prabhupada: Back to Godhead means one must be completely pure. A slight impurity, He will not allow. Kingdom of God is so..., that no impure person can enter. Just like in your country... Do you belong to USA? There are in every country, and so many, especially in your country, there are so many immigration to check whether contamination. Even they do not allow plants to be carried. Is it not?

Indian man: Yes, yes.

Prabhupada: From one port to another. Why? Checking the contents. So if in this material world such strict checkings are there, don't you think that one who enters..., one who wants to enter the kingdom of God, there is no checking? Anyone will be able to enter? It is a commonsense affair. So kingdom of God means purity. If there is slight impurity, he will not be allowed. "Keep outside." And it is stated in the Bhagavad-gita, yesam anta-gatam papam [Bg 7.28]. Yesam, persons who have completely been freed from the contamination of sinful activities,

Simply engaged in pious activities, they can become a devotee.

These are clear statements.

And the pillars of sinful activities, that is also mentioned in the Bhagavata:

Four kinds of sinful activities: illicit sex, and intoxication, and unnecessary killing of animals, and gambling. This..., all the slaughterhouses of the world are being maintained unnecessarily. That is recruiting simply sins. They are eating sin, and therefore the world is in trouble. Simply committing. There is no necessity of killing animals. But here in India they are killing ten thousand cows daily, what to speak of Western countries. The people are so much addicted to sinful activities. How they can be elevated? They are condemned. Only this movement, Krsna consciousness, if they take to this movement, they can be saved.

Otherwise, there is no saving. They must cycle round the 8,400,000 species of life-sometimes very happy, sometimes very sorry; sometimes Brahma, sometimes the germ in the stool. This is going on, changing bodies one after another, just like if we change our dress. This will go on so long one is not completely free from the sinful activities. Unless he enters into the kingdom of God, this cycle of birth and death will go on. Only in the spiritual sky there is no birth, death, old age and disease. And as soon as you are out of the spiritual sky, these four things will... You may live for thousands of years-that doesn't matter-but you have to die. That is the law of material nature.

You may have very good medicines, drug shop, as you have got in your country, but still you have to suffer from diseases. You may have thousands of method for contraceptive, but the population is increased. Ah. And as soon as there is death, as soon as this body, the janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi [Bg 13.9].

In the Bhagavad-gita everything is clearly stated, that any intelligent person will put forward before him that "We have solved all our miserable conditions of life, but not these four principles. That is not possible," janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi: the sufferings of birth, the sufferings of death, the sufferings of old age and the sufferings of disease. That cannot be stopped. That can only be solved if you become Krsna conscious and go back to home, back to Godhead, that's all. Otherwise it is not possible.

You may be very great yogi, you may be very great meditator-all the things, they are very nice; they can elevate you from higher standard of life. Just like your country, USA, they have got higher standard of life than India, in one sense. But you can have thousand, thousand more higher standard of life in higher planets. Thousand, thousand times. As there is comparison between India and USA or any country, similarly, in planetary system also there is comparison: this planet is so much full of material pleasure and other planets so much, so much. But in no planet [laughs] there is the guarantee that there will be no death. That is not.

That is stated in the Bhagavad-gita:

Even if you go to the Brahmaloka, where one twelve hours means thousands of four yugas, but still there is death. So we cannot avoid this. The one who is serious... Hmm. Social [indistinct]. What is this name of this magazine?

Indian man: [indistinct]

Prabhupada: Asia?

Indian man: [indistinct] Asia Magazine [indistinct].

Prabhupada: Hmm. Asia Magazine is published from London?

Indian man: It is published in Hong Kong.

Prabhupada: Hong Kong. Oh, I see. So [laughs] our New Vrindavan, very nice. So you have published very nice picture. So [indistinct; movements in the room] you can take it to our [indistinct]. Just see. This is one picture and this is one picture. Bring it. Hare Krsna. Side by side. Hell and heaven, one has to select. [break]

And the spiritual world there is only one class of men; therefore spiritual world is called absolute. The center is Krsna, or God, and everyone is engaged in His service in love. Not paid servants. Paid servants will always disagree, in proportion to the money he receives. But in the Vaikuntha world there is no question of paid service. Everyone is free; everyone has got sufficient.

Because as I told you yesterday that they are all liberated. They have got equal opulence like God. But still they serve. That is the superlative [indistinct]. Here, one serves, he needs; and there they serve without needs. There is no need of service; everything is there complete, cintamani-prakara-sadmasu kalpa-vrksa [Bs 5.29].

It is said that there are kalpa-vrksa, desire tree. Desire tree means a tree from which you can get anything you desire. Then why there should be service? Here, service is forced. If you don't render service, then you will starve. This nature is called avidya-karma-sahga anya trtiya-saktir isyate [Cc Madhya 6.154], karma sahga.

Here one may be king, but still he has to work, and what to speak of the poor man. Everyone has to work. This is called avidya-karma-sahga. But in the spiritual world there is no question of work.

There are two classes of men in this material world, not in the spiritual world. The spiritual world is one. They are all cognizant that "We are eternally servant of God." Nityo nityanam cetanas cetananam [Katha Upanisad 2.2.13].

There are plural number living entities. They are all being provided with one cetana, the supreme cetana. So these two classes of men are known..., one is known as demigods, or servants of God, and another is called the servants of maya. Both of them are servants. Nobody is master. That is not possible. Only one master is God, or Krsna. That is stated in the Caitanya-caritamrta, ekala isvara krsna : only isvara, the controller, or the master, is Krsna. Ara saba bhrtya: and any other, other demigods or ordinary [indistinct], they are all servants.

Yare yaiche nacaya, se taiche kare nrtya: now under the direction of the Supreme Lord everyone is dancing, or working. In the common world we see that we are dancing dogs, because under the direction of the master. The master says, "Please dance," the dog will dance. The master... Because the dog knows that "He is my master. If I don't dance, then I will starve."

So actually that is the position. Nobody is master here, but when we falsely claim that "I am master," that is maya. Everyone is serving, but under the impression that he is master. The head of the family, he is thinking that "I am the master." But he is..., actually he is serving each and every member of the family. The state executive officer-you may call a king or a president-he is thinking that "I am king," "I am president," but actually he is serving. That is his position. Unless he serves properly, immediately he will be dethroned, or next time he will not be elected.

That is our position. We are all serving, ekale isvara krsna, ara saba bhrtya. This is a fact. Only master is Krsna, and everyone is servant. Who can challenge this statement-is there anyone within this hall-that I don't serve anyone? Is there anyone? Eh? And somebody is claiming that "I am God." You see?

This is called illusion, maya. This claim is made by the illusioned living entities. Here, this material world means that everyone is trying to become the master. And that is competition between one master to another, because nobody is master. That competition that "I shall become master," that is illusion. So in this illusory fighting and competition, where one fails, that "I could not become the master..." Eh?

For example, in our country we respected Mahatma Gandhi as the father of the nation, or the master of the nation; but actually he was servant. As soon as there was little discrepancy, immediately he was put to death. Immediately. So similarly, in the USA also, President Kennedy, he was very popular president. But as soon as there was little discrepancy, he was also killed. So this position we must know, that nobody is master here; everyone is servant. But his real position is to become the servant of God.

That he is, but because... Just like a criminal: he thinks that "I don't care for any law," but he is forced to obey the laws in the prison house. Outside or inside, he has to obey the laws of the government. But under illusion he thinks that "I don't care for the government." Similarly, those who are rascals, they think that there is no God, "I am God. I don't care for any God." That is another process, demoniac process. And those who obey the laws of God, they are called demigods.

There are two classes of men in this world: one is called daiva and the other is called asura. Asura means rebelled against God, don't care for God: "I am God," "You are God," "Everyone is God." "Why you are searching after God? There are so many Gods in the street, lying on the footpath, daridra-narayana. You serve these Gods." You see? This is the difference.

Daridra-narayana, serving God... So many subscriptions raised in America in the name of serving these daridra-narayanas, in India. Now these Americans are questioning that "You take money for serving the daridra-narayana. Why we see when we go to India, why we see so many daridra-narayanas are lying on the footpath?" These questions are being made. One of the big Ramakrishna Mission svamis, Svami Nikhilananda, he told me. It is not my manufactured story.

Actually people are claiming welfare, society welfare activities, but what welfare they are doing actually? The welfare activities are increasing, and the candidates for receiving the welfare, they are increasing. They are trying to serve the daridra-narayana, but actually this number of daridra-narayanas are increasing daily.

So that is the position. Here... Practically Narayana cannot be daridra. That is another illusion, Narayana is the husband of the goddess of fortune, Laksmi. How He can be daridra? It is also a manufactured word.

Here we keep one Laksmi, but as soon as there is any little discrepancy the Laksmi immediately becomes angry and there is divorce. Practically there is no respect from the side of Laksmi to the so-called daridra-narayana. But there, thousands and thousands of Laksmis are very respectfully serving the Lord. You read the story, the Rukmini, the prime Laksmi of Lord Krsna. One day Krsna was a little joking, and she took it very seriously and she immediately fainted. So much respect. So, "Krsna, why are You thinking of leaving me?" She fainted immediately, so much [indistinct]. Laksmi-sahasra-sata-sambhrama-sevyamanam. These are the statements of scripture.

And when Krsna was actually present on this planet, He showed it, how much He respectfully served by His 16,000 wives, and how much comfortably He kept all of them in different palaces, and expanding Himself into 16,000 forms. That is God. That is God.

So everyone, even the Laksmis, is servant, are servants of Krsna; what to speak of others, dasis? So how one can claim that "I am God"? God is not so cheap. Only persons who are illusioned, they claim that "I am God." He is servant. He is servant. Instead of becoming..., voluntarily rendering service to God... Because they claim to be God, they are more put into illusion. Mayar grasta jivera haya se dasa uday, it is said in the Vaisnava literature.

Just like a person when he is haunted by ghosts, he speaks all kinds of nonsense, similarly, when the living entity is engrossed by the illusionary aspects of this material nature, he also talks all foolishly. He also talks all fool... One of the greatest foolish things is that he claims that "I am God."

So that is not [indistinct]. Therefore there are two classes of men: asuras and devata. You have heard that there is always fight between asuras and devatas, because asuras are always against God, and devatas, they are servants of God. That is the difference. Even at home there are..., there was asura and devata. The father was an asura, and the son was a devata, Prahlada Maharaja, and the father became enemy of the son. Naturally father is always affectionate, but because he was an asura he became against his beloved son. That is the nature of the asuras. Even asuras just like tiger, also has got affection for the cubs.

So this Hiranyakasipu was affectionate, because Prahlada Maharaja was very nice boy, five years old, very good looking. Natural affection, he was youngest. And one day he asked his son, "My dear boy, what you have learnt, the best thing, tell me." Just like father asks sometimes. So he replied that "One should sacrifice everything for realizing God." Tat sadhu manye 'sura-varya dehinam, asad-grahat [SB 7.5.5]...

Hmm. I forget that sloka, that, eh... But Prahlada Maharaja said, "That is the best way of life, in the human form of life, to utilize this opportunity for realizing God." That was his version.

And his father become very angry, and from that day father, the father taught, instructed the teachers that "How is that, that you are teaching all this nonsense to my boy?" They replied, "Sir, we do not teach. This boy is naturally God-inclined. What can I do? Eh? As soon as he gets opportunity, he begins to preach God consciousness in the class."

When the teacher is absent, immediately Prahlada Maharaja stands up on the bench and addresses his friends, "My dear boys, this is the life for realizing God. Don't forget this." In this way he was lecturing. These are in the Bhagavata. So the demigods means God-realized persons, or servant of God, they have dedicated their life for the service of the Lord, whereas the asuras, they are always against such principles.

So here also the same thing is happening.

The Visnudūtas challenged the Yamadūtas that "If you are actually servants of your master, Dharmaraja..." Yamaraja is Dharmaraja; another name is Dharmaraja. He is also a representative of God. Just like a magistrate, he has to deal with the criminal cases. But magistrate is not bad. Magistrate is representative of the government. Similarly Dharmaraja, although punishes all criminals, all sinful persons, but he is a pure servant of God; therefore his name is Dharmaraja. He is executing the order of the master.

So therefore the Visnudūtas challenged the Yamadūtas that "If you are actually serving your master, Dharmaraja..." Just like a police constable is supposed to know the law, whom to arrest. If he arrests anyone and everyone, then he is a fool. He cannot arrest anyone and everyone. He cannot arrest a law-abiding man. Similarly, the Yamadūtas, they also cannot take away to the court of this Yamaraja everyone and anyone. No. Only the nondevotees are taken. Those who are devotees, they are not taken. That is, you will find in the Bhagavata, Srimad-Bhagavatam. Yamaraja specially instructs that "Those who are Vaisnavas, you should not go there. You should offer your respect to them."

Somebody asked me, Swamiji, "Why this tulasi beads on your neck," or "your devotees' neck?" So I replied, "Just like a pet dog has got a collar, similarly, we are pet dogs of God, we have got this collar, and Yamaraja will understand that 'He is God's dog.' " [laughter] " 'He should not be shot down.' " So actually that is the position. Anyone... Then here there is a verse... There is a verse that "Don't go to the Vaisnavas," the Yamadūtas are especially instructed.

But this Ajamila was known as sinful, but everyone knew. But he had become, I mean to say, freed from all sinful contamination, because at the time of death he uttered the word "Narayana" without any offense. So the Yamadūta, they could not understand that he is no more under the laws of criminal punishment; he is freed from all contamination. Actually that is the position. "Krsna," one who utters the name "Krsna," he immediately becomes freed from all sinful activities. Immediately. That is the power of Krsna's name. But the difficulty is that after being freed, we again commit mistake in sinful activities. Krsna's name has got the power. As soon as you utter the name "Hare Krsna," immediately you become freed from all contamination. Eh?

Therefore if one thinks that "I am chanting Hare Krsna mantra, so even if I commit sinful activities, that will be counteracted by my chanting" ah, that is another greatest offense. That we have discussed many times, that on the strength of holy name of Lord if one commit sinful activities, he is a greatest offender. Just like sometimes we find in Christian churches, they go on Sunday and they confess, and they are supposed to be excused from the sinful reaction. But again after coming back from the church, again commits the same sins, and it is expected that "The next week when I shall go to the church, I shall confess, and it will be counteracted." These kind of, I mean to say, understanding is prohibited. This kind of understanding.

One... Just like Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Caitanya Mahaprabhu accepted Jagai and Madhai; they were very sinful. What is their sin? They're illicit sex, woman-hunter, drunkard, meat-eater-that is sinful activities according to Vedic scripture. So they became debauched and gunḍa, disturbing element. But Caitanya Mahaprabhu delivered them. Caitanya Mahaprabhu delivered them on one condition. What is that condition?

When they fell down on the lotus feet of Lord Caitanya and Nityananda, "Sir, we are so much sinful. Kindly deliver us"-there is a long history, incident; I will tell you some day-this Caitanya Mahaprabhu made one condition, that "I can accept you only on your promise that you shall no more commit sinful activities. What you have done, that's all right; I will excuse. But if you commit again, that will be greatest offense." So they said: ara nare bapa , ara nare, "No more, Sir.

This is the end of our sinful activities. No more we shall do it."

So our Krsna consciousness movement, following the footsteps of Lord Caitanya, we are also following the same principles under the authority of Lord Caitanya. When we accept somebody in our Society as initiated member, we put forward these obligations, restriction, that no more illicit sex life, no more gambling, no more intoxication and no more animal food. That is necessary. If you accept spiritual life and at the same time go on committing sinful activities, then you will never be able to progress. That is not possible. Because in the Bhagavad-gita it is clearly said by Krsna,

"Persons who are completely freed from all contamination of sinful activities and simply engaged in pious activities, they only are admitted in devotional service."

So if you are actually serious about entering into the kingdom of God, Vaikuntha, then we should be very much careful about these four principles of restriction: No illicit... You cannot have any sex life without being married. That is sinful activity. You cannot indulge in intoxication. You cannot eat anything which is beyond the jurisdiction of your food. For you, for a human being, the food is, I mean to say, given quota that you can eat grains, you can eat fruits, you can eat flowers, vegetables, you can eat milk. That is sattvika: foodstuff prepared from vegetables, fruits, grain, sugar and milk products, that's all. That is sattvika. That is allotted for the human being.

You cannot imitate the cats and dogs: "Because they are eating meat, I can eat. Meat also is my food." They put forward everything is food. So why don't you eat stool? That is also food, for the hogs. So we have to... We must have discrimination that "What sort of food we shall take?" Not that like hogs, anything will be accepted. That is humanity. In this way... Actually if we enter..., if we want to enter into spiritual life, then these four principles, or restrictions, must be observed.

[break] ...have to undergo the austerities, tapaḥ, divyam. That authority is meant for transcendental realizing, divyam. Then, when we have purified our existence, then we are admitted in the kingdom of God. Without that, it is not possible.

So therefore those who are trying to purify themselves and following the rules and regulation, they are devatas, or demigods. And those who do not believe in God and act according to whims, such persons are called asuras. In the Bhagavad-gita you will find,

It is clearly stated,

This very word is very important: asuram bhavam asritaḥ. They have... Because they have taken to the shelter of asura bhava, atheist philosophy, in spite of advancement of education they are naradhamaḥ, lowest of the mankind. These words are exactly there, naradhamaḥ. You cannot say, "How you can say these gentleman asura? He is so much educated, highly qualified, university degrees." The answer is there, mayayapahrta-jnana. Here it appears that he's very learned, but his actual knowledge is taken away by the maya on account of his being atheistic. And such atheistic person, bewildered by maya as being lowest of the mankind, they cannot surrender unto God.

So these things may not be very palatable, but these things are there in the scriptures. We have to preach the scriptural injunctions. Therefore we say "Bhagavad-gita As It Is." You cannot play hide and seek with the problem of life. You must know your real position, and you must...

Therefore here it is asked that brūta dharmasya nas tattvam [SB 6.1.38]. So dharma and adharma: there are two kinds of activities. Dharma, dharma means one who is acting according to the order of God. That is dharma. And one who is not acting according to the order of, that is adharma. Therefore the challenge was there, "If you are actually representative of Dharmaraja, you must know what is dharma and what is adharma. You will explain." That means they were also not aware in..., what was the actual position of Ajamila. They did not know that although throughout his whole life he was sinful, but because at the time of his death he simply remembered Narayana...

But that is also difficult. We may not think that "Let me now go on committing all sinful activities. At the time of death I shall remember Narayana, or Krsna." That is not possible. It is only possible for persons who had some intimate relationship with Narayana. This Ajamila had very intimate relationship with Narayana, when he was boy, when he was being trained up by his father. He was very faithful to Narayana, to his father, up to twenty years. He served very nicely Narayana; therefore he had the effect of remembering Narayana at the time of death.

Therefore in the Bhagavad-gita it is said,

If even slight of this Narayana-dharma is practiced, it can save you from the greatest dangers. So why not take to this Narayana consciousness or Krsna consciousness always, twenty-four hours; then there is no question of danger.

One who has become narayana-para, he is not afraid of anything. Na kutascana bibhyati. Why he should be afraid? He knows, "There is Narayana, there is Krsna. Why shall I be afraid?"

[aside:] So? It is past six.

Devotee: Shall we have some questions?

Prabhupada: Yes.

Devotee (2): You said that Ajamila, because he chanted "Narayana" offenselessly, so he went to Vaikuntha. And then you said if we are chanting..., if we chant Hare Krsna, all our sinful activities are washed away.

Prabhupada: Hmm?

Devotee (2): Is that... So even if we chant offensively?

Prabhupada: Offenseless [offensive] means when you chant with this idea that "Now I am chanting, all my sinful activities are gone, so again I can commit sinful activities and I shall chant Narayana." That is offense. That is offense. Knowingly you are committing sinful activities. You know "This sinful activity," but you are thinking, on the strength of chanting, that "Even if I commit this offense, I...., sinful activities, it is counteracted by my chanting," that is offense.

That offense was not there in the case of Ajamila. He was young man; he was being trained up by his father in the Narayana philosophy, Narayana life, but due to bad association he became a victim to all kinds of sinful activities. And that was not offense. You can fall down by, I mean to say, unworthy association, but if you are offenseless, then you will be saved.

But if you purposely think that "Because I am chanting Hare Krsna mantra, it can counteract my sinful activities," that is the greatest offense. Knowingly. Ajamila did not know. He was a boy. He fell a victim by bad association, but he was not offender. He did not dev..., do it purposefully. Therefore he was saved. Yes?

Indian man: Swamiji, sometimes the Vaisnavas, they [indistinct] Dharmaraja was more prone to Vaisnavas [indistinct] so why [indistinct]?

Prabhupada: Hmm?

Indian man: Why Vaisnavas are..., they are very [indistinct]? Yamadūtas are not very... Even they are [indistinct], because there is some [indistinct].

Prabhupada: Yes.

Indian man: So they are [indistinct].

Prabhupada: It is not to be kept falsely, you see? Yamadūtas are there very intelligent. If you keep it falsely, they can catch you.

Audience: Ah! [laughter]

Prabhupada: They are not foolish persons, they can cheat him. No, it is not possible. You must be actually Vaisnava; then you are excused. Otherwise not. You cannot cheat.

Indian man: [indistinct]

Prabhupada: So they are being trained up to become actually Vaisnava, not a pseudo-Vaisnava, simply for earning livelihood.

Indian man: [laughs]

Prabhupada: No. That is not our proposition. And those who are earning livelihood by presenting themself as false Vaisnavas, their condition is more condemned. My Guru Maharaja used to say that instead of earning your livelihood by presenting yourself as a Vaisnava, better you become a sweeper in the street and earn your livelihood. Don't cheat. That was the order of my Guru Maharaja. It is better to become a sweeper in the street than to become a false Vaisnava. That is real philosophy.

Devotee (3): Prabhupada, you said that the greatest offense is to chant, thinking that "My sins will be washed away," and commit sins wanted[?]. So what is the result that that person gets if he dies in that condition? What is...

Prabhupada: He dies a sinful-because he does not want to go back to Godhead; he wants to make some profit-so he dies sinful, and he has to be punished for that reason. In spite of his false this tilaka and false mala, he will be punished. Yes?

Devotee (4): Srila Prabhupada, even if a person is completely engrossed in material activities and somehow or other they utter the name of "Krsna..." Like you said my mother attained Krsna's kingdom, although she was completely absorbed in material activities.

Prabhupada: That was..., that was due to your grace. You reminded your mother at the time of her death, Krsna. You were a good boy of your mother, and she got the opportunity remembering Krsna and got all the profit due to your..., having a good son like you. Yes. His mother... We do not wish to discuss, but you're not at all... Just like European ladies there.

So he was visiting his mother and inspiring her, "Mother, you chant Hare Krsna, whatever you have learned from me." She got some idea of Krsna; later on developed some little affection for Krsna consciousness. So at the time of death, by seeing him she simply enquired from him, "Is your Krsna here?" and died immediately.

Audience: Ohh!

Prabhupada: So she was fortunate to have a good son like him to remind her by his presence, Krsna, and [s]he become liberated. Therefore these things are required, Vaisnava symptom. People will immediately remember Krsna. By this tilaka, by this beads, by their features, immediately they will know, "Here is the group of Krsna consciousness." Yes?

Indian man (2): [indistinct] Vaisnava [indistinct].

Prabhupada: Eh?

Indian man (2): Who can be told as a true Vaisnava?

Prabhupada: Hah, that you have to learn. Not in a minute. That you have to be trained up. Just see how they are being trained up. You cannot ask, "Who is... Who has passed M.A." You have to become M.A., then you shall... Not that simply asking for a minute you can understand. It is a long course of training. You have to admit yourself into the Vaisnava school and become trained up; then you will understand what is Vaisnava. Yes?

Devotee (4): In Indore, if I understand it proper, that you said that first Ajamila saw [indistinct] his son's name was Narayana, and he remembered, "Oh, Krsna." By calling for his son, he remembered Krsna.

Prabhupada: That is the commentary by Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura. So we have to accept our acaryas. That is the commentary. But some way or other, Narayana, the very name, the holy name, has got so much power. That you have to understand. So those who are always chanting Hare Krsna, they are saved. This is not a show, but offenseless chanting of Hare Krsna mantra will always keep us safe and sound from the attack of maya.

And there is no expenditure; there is no loss. Why people should not take? Why this obstinacy, I ask. Eh? They are thinking that "I have become civilized, I have become educated; therefore I cannot do this." So are they not educated? Are they not civilized? Why Indian boys are refusing? That is my question. They are losing the opportunity of taking birth in India. They are so much obstinate-to take their birth in India, and they are refusing this culture. That is the effect of this modern education.

Apana-dhana bhuliya diye bhiksa bhaja paraḥ [Sri Sri Kalyana Kalpa-taru]. You know... What is the position of India? Nobody cares for India. Wherever I go, they say, "Oh, India. That is poverty-stricken country." That is your good message. Because you are actually going. The ministers are going, "Give me..., give me grains, give me money, give me weapons, so I can be saved from the slaughtering of China." The begging business. India's position is not very glorious outside India.

You may be puffed up that you have become independent. But everyone is anxious to have your spiritual culture. Everyone. They know, even a Chinaman, he has written one book that is recommended in New York University. He says that "If you want to know about spiritual culture and religion, then you must go to India."

So you are all young boys. You should be very responsible. Caitanya Mahaprabhu has stated specifically, bharata-bhūmite manusya-janma haila yara Anyone who has taken birth as a human being in the land of Bharata-varsa, janma sarthaka kari' kara para-upakara, just make your life successful and do welfare activities for others. So you must realize, because in India you have got this Krsna science or spiritual culture so nicely left by so many sages, so many saintly persons. You do not make your life successful by following their path? Eh?