life comes from life

"Because You are the original person, You are therefore described in the Gopala-tapani (the Vedic Upanisad), as well as in the Brahma-samhita, as govindam adi-purusam. Govinda is the original person, the cause of all causes. In the Bhagavad-gita [14.27] also it is stated that You are the source of the Brahman effulgence. No one should conclude that Your body is like an ordinary material body. Your body is aksara, indestructible. The material body is always full of threefold miseries, but Your body is sac-cid-ananda-vigraha: full of being, bliss, knowledge and eternality. You are also niranjana because Your pastimes, as the little son of mother Yasoda or the Lord of the gopis, are never contaminated by the material qualities. And although You exhibited Yourself in so many cowherd boys, calves and cows, Your transcendental potency is not reduced. You are always complete. As it is described in the Vedic literature, even if the complete is taken away from the complete-Supreme Absolute Truth-it yet remains the complete, Supreme Absolute Truth. And although many expansions from the complete are visible, the complete is one without a second. Since all Your pastimes are spiritual, there is no possibility of their being contaminated by the material modes of nature. When You place Yourself subordinate to Your father and mother, Nanda and Yasoda, You are not reduced in Your potency; this is an expression of Your loving attitude for Your devotees. There is no other competitor or second identity than Yourself. A person with a poor fund of knowledge concludes that Your pastimes and appearance are simply material designations. You are transcendental to both nescience and knowledge, as it is confirmed in the Gopala-tapani. You are the original amrta (nectar of immortality), indestructible. As it is confirmed in the , amrtam sasvatam brahme. Brahman is the eternal, the supreme origin of everything, who has no birth or death. (More...)

This material world is Krsna's. We cannot say mama maya. No. We are under the control of this material nature. But Krsna is the controller of the material nature. That is the difference. We are controlled by the material nature, but Krsna is not controlled, but He's controller. Mayadhyaksena prakrtih suyate sa-caracaram [Bg 9.10]. One who understands this, that this prakrti, this material nature, is working under the direction of Krsna, that is our real knowledge. How the things are going on? That is not possible to understand. But the summary, sum total, if we simply understand... Janmady asya yatah. Everything is emanated from the Supreme Absolute Truth, Krsna. That much knowledge is sufficient. Then you can increase-how they are working. How, by Krsna's energies, the material energy is working by the direction of Krsna, that is advanced knowledge. But on the whole, if we... As it is stated in the Bhagavad-gita, mayadhyaksena prakrtih suyate sa-caracaram. That is perfect knowledge. If we think that this matter is working independently, as modern scientists, they think that chemical evolution... No. No chemical evolution. Life does not produce by chemical evolution. Life is from life. That... Just like Krsna says in the Bhagavad-gita, that aham sarvatra..., aham sarvasya prabhavo mattah sarvam pravartate [Bg 10.8]. (More...)

This material energy is inferior, and the spiritual energy is superior. And superior why? Because the superior energy, the living entity, jiva-bhuta, they are controlling. Not controlling; they are trying to utilize. Just like we advanced living entities, human being, we have created the modern civilization by utilizing the matter. Utilizing the matter. That is our superiority. But we are also prakrti. Apareyam viddhi me prakrtim param. We are para-prakrti, spiritual energy. This is the understanding. In this way we have to understand tattva-jnana. The human life is meant for understanding tattva. Jivasya tattva-jijnasa. The Vedanta-sutra: athato brahma-jijnasa. Jijnasa, tattva-jijnasa, the same thing. (More...)

The modern scientists, they are of opinion that life comes from matter. We say, "No, life comes from life. Matter comes from life." This is satyam. I do not know how they get Nobel Prize, putting forward a false theory that life comes from matter. The matter... So why don't you produce life in the laboratory? Matter is there. Chemicals are there. You mix them and produce a life. When some such chemist is inquired, "Whether you can produce life if I give you the chemicals?" they will immediately say, "That I cannot say." Then why do you speak like that? So this is asuric. If they accept that everything comes from the living being, then they will have to accept God. So they want to avoid this. "Everything matter." But that is not the fact. Origin is life, that is explained in the Bhagavad-gita. Krsna says, aham sarvasya prabhavah [Bg 10.8]. Aham. Krsna is life. He's not dead matter. (More...)

So the modern theory that life is made possible by chemical evolution is not correct. Or the Darwin's Theory, evolution of matter. No. The... They are missing the soul. That is their mistake. They are simply observing the material cover. That is the basic mistake of modern civilization. They have no information that within the body there is the spirit soul. That is the basic principle of material development. Matter is coming out of spirit, not that spirit is coming out of matter. They think by combination of matter there is a stage when living symptoms are visible. That is not the fact. The fact is that spirit soul is there, and therefore matter is developing. (More...)

So one should be inquisitive to know, "How this physical body has come into existence, covering myself, the spiritual body, aham brahmasmi?" So to understand this science, Kapiladeva is explaining the physical Saṅkhya philosophy, how things are developing. To understand that... The same thing: to understand the simple thing, that "I am not this body. The body has developed from the soul." Therefore we challenge the material scientists. They say that the soul has developed from the body. No. Soul has not developed from the body, but the body has developed from the soul. Just the opposite. The material scientists, they think that combination of these physical elements creates a situation where is..., when there is living, life symptoms. No. That is not. The real is that, fact is, that the spirit soul is there. They are wandering all over the universe, brahmanda brahman. Brahmanda means all over the universe. The spirit soul is sometimes in one species of life; sometimes he's another species of life. Sometimes he is in this planet, sometimes another planet. In this way, according to his karma he is wandering. That is his material life. So ei rupe brahmanda bhramite [Cc Madhya 19.151]. (More...)

We can understand living... In the life, when we are alive, the body is moving, we can understand what is living force. And we can understand further when the body does not move-that difference, why the body was moving and why the body is not now moving. If we simply study this difference of position we can understand what is living force. It is not very difficult. Simply we have to understand, "Now this living force is gone out of this body; therefore the body is no longer moving and it is a dead matter." This is this... So this Caitanya-caritamrta means we are talking of the living force, not of the dead matter. We should always remember. So the guru belongs to that living force. And isa, isa means controller. So everyone, that living force. Gurun, isa, isa-bhaktan, isa-bhaktan and isam. So they are all living force. The Lord, His devotee, His representative, everyone, they belong to the spiritual platform, living force. Caitanya-samjnakam. Caitanya means living. That personification of all living forces is Krsna Caitanya, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu. People mistake Krsna Caitanya Mahaprabhu because by misfortune they understand Krsna Caitanya as a devotee or just like so-called sadhu or yogi, like that. That is mistake. Krsna Caitanya means the original living force, Krsna. (More...)

My point is life comes from life. They say life has come from chemicals, so how these things can be adjusted? Besides that the scientists change their theories after some years, this proves that they have no perfect knowledge, otherwise where is the necessity of changing? That is the basic point of our argument. Perfect knowledge is never changeable. If we can prove that life comes from life, or the soul is from the super soul, then all other things can be brought into serious consideration. So you try to prove that chemical combination can never bring about life, this is our main argument. If we can prove this particular subject matter, that the soul cannot be manufactured by combination of chemicals, then gradually we can prove that vedic knowledge is perfect, while other sources of knowledge by speculation and imagination are all wrong. (More...)

Prabhupada: ...Is it not fact? If sexual intercourse is the beginning of life, then why it is not always successful? We say that when the life, living entity, is there in the semina and it is put into the woman's womb, then body develops. Therefore, the beginning is the life. This is practical. And this life is the part and parcel of the supreme life. Therefore the beginning is God. Janmady asya yatah. Athato brahma-jijnasa. So we have to establish this theory in this misguided world that... And besides that, why they cannot produce life from matter? What is the value of their statement? That they have not been able to do. Where is the proof that from matter life comes? You do it. (More...)

Svarupa Damodara: Proof is under investigation. [laughter] (More...)

Prabhupada: Eh? That is nonsense. That is nonsense. This proof, that from life, life is coming, there is proof, so many proof. A man, animal, trees-everything is coming from life. Up till now, nobody has seen that a man is born from a stone. Nobody has seen. Sometimes the... it is called vrscika-tandula-nyaya. You know that? Vrscika-tandula-nyaya. Vrscika means scorpion, and tandula means rice. Sometimes we see some heaps of rice, the scorpion is coming. But that is not that the rice has given birth to the scorpion. You have not seen in your country? We have seen it. From the rice, heaps of rice, one scorpion, small scorpion, is coming. The fact is that the parent of the scorpion, they put their eggs within the rice and, being fermented, the scorpion come, not that from rice the scorpion is coming. Therefore it is called vrscika-tandula-nyaya. Vrscika means scorpion, and tandula means rice. So, matter is... "Life is coming from matter"-this is called vrscika-tandula-nyaya. Life cannot come from matter. Besides that... Just like when there is life, living entity, the body grows, body changes or grows, as you say. But if the child is dead or come out dead, then the body does not grow. Then matter is growing on life. Why, a dead child born, it does not grow? What is the reason? Hmm? What is your scientists' reason? (More...)

Svarupa Damodara: They will say that somehow the chemical reactions are not going right in the body, in the dead body. (More...)

Prabhupada: But you give the chemical. You rascal, you have got so many chemicals. Why don't you give it? What is the use of saying like that? Now the child is dead. Now you give some chemical injection and bring it into life. Why you cannot do that? If you cannot do that, then what is the nonsense, saying that some chemical is missing? If it is missing, you will replace it. Hmm... Why you cannot replace? (More...)

Svarupa Damodara: Because they haven't found out the chemical. (More...)

Prabhupada: Therefore you are rascal. You do not know what is that chemical, and still you say that some chemical is missing. This is going on-bluffing, cheating. This should be stopped. You do not know what is that chemical missing; still, you say, "Some chemical missing." Why do you say like that? (More...)

Prabhupada: This kind of answer, that if I ask you that "You produce life from chemicals," and if you answer that "Yes, we shall do it in future," that is not very scientific answer. What do you think? Is that very scientific answer? (More...)

Prabhupada: How it is scientific? Life is already there. Not that the life production is depending on your future scientific research. The life is already going there, hundreds and thousands and millions. You say that you do not know. Why you are claiming that "In future we shall know"? There is no need of your knowing; it is already going on. You do not know. That is your position. And still, you are declaring yourself as scientist. You are misleading. You can make a fool's paradise, that is another thing. But you do not know at the present moment, but the things are going on. Life is being produced without your knowledge. So you admit that you have no knowledge. And without having knowledge, you are declaring yourself as scientist-how much cheating it is. It is not that it is depending on your future knowledge. It is already going on. Life is being produced. So if you think that in future, by chemical combination you will produce life, so that chemical composition is already there, going on. So you have to find out who is that scientist, not that chemical composition. Who is that scientist who is producing so many lives and chemicals? That is real intelligence. (More...)

Madhava dasa: First, we want to expose other scientists to Krsna conscious ideas. Also, we think that people in general will also be interested in how two former academic scientists view Krsna consciousness. There's a lot of interest now in the limits of science. More and more people are questioning science's ability to solve the world's problems. We've seen science's ability to create problems. Now many people doubt it will be able to get us out of that situation. They feel that science has been overrated and they're beginning to look at wider and wider perspectives to understand what's going on. In psychology, the Gestalt movement has become popular because it doesn't try to analyze consciousness in terms of behaviorism or atomism. In scientific theory we're seeing a lot of emphasis on how the observer influences what he's observing. In every scientific experiment, the consciousness of the observer has to be accounted for, but present theories don't explain how. In addition, there are problems now in understanding the fundamentals of mathematics and of reason itself. There's also a general trend toward trying to understand consciousness and the higher psychology of living beings. A recent study conducted by the American Association for the Advancement of Science showed a great deal of public interest in phenomena that can't be explained by the known laws of science, such as psychokinesis, telepathy, Kirlian photography, and so on. (More...)

After being created from the navel of Garbhodakasayi Visnu, Lord Brahma, the original created living being within the universe, created many other different types of living entities to reside in this universe. Therefore, from the beginning of creation, the living entities were born of a superior living entity. Ultimately, Krsna is the supreme living being, the father of all others. Aham bija-pradah pita: He is the seed-giving father of all living entities. (More...)

In this verse it is clearly indicated that the original source of everything is life. Brahma was instructed by the supreme life, Krsna.

In this verse it is clearly indicated that the original source of everything is life. Brahma was instructed by the supreme life, Krsna. Krsna is the supreme living entity (nityo nityanam cetanas cetananam), and Brahma is also a living entity, but the original source of Brahma is Krsna. Therefore Krsna says in Bhagavad-gita (7.7), mattah parataram nanyat kincid asti dhananjaya: "O Arjuna, there is no truth superior to Me." Krsna is the original source of Brahma, who is the original source of this universe. Brahma is a representative of Krsna, and therefore all the qualities and activities of Krsna are also present in Lord Brahma. (More...)