Room Conversation – November 9, 1977, Vṛndāvana

You'll get your money at your house

[kaviraja arrives-Hindi discussions with Prabhupada] [break]

Kaviraja: [Transl. Today did you feel pain while passing urine? Did you pass in the evening?]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Little bit.]

Kaviraja: [Transl. Little bit. Now, when will you go to Mayapura? You have a desire?]

Prabhupada: [Transl. How can I go in this condition?]

Kaviraja: [Transl. This condition will not remain forever. You have a desire to go, no?]

Prabhupada: Hmm.

Kaviraja: [Transl. Today I read a sloka. Mūkam karoti vacalam pahgum lahghayate girim,

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Prabhupada: [Indistinct]

Bhagatji: [Transl. Purusottma Gosvami has come back Prabhupada. In Jaisingh Ghera.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Ah. He cannot do it?]

Bhagatji: [Transl. I don't know Srila Prabhupada, I didn't see the temple, what he wants and what he doesn't want.]

Kaviraja: [Transl. He is loaded with money.]

Bhagatji: [Transl. I didn't see. I will go and see. What he wants, Srila Prabhupada, and what is your order please tell us.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. He wants to live nicely.]

Bhagatji: [Indistinct]

Prabhupada: [Transl. No, we will repair it.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Will repair it.]

Bhagatji: [Transl. Repair.]

Kaviraja: [Transl. Uneasiness is less, no?]

Prabhupada: [Transl. What?]

Kaviraja: [Transl. Restlessness is somewhat less?]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Yes.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. It's less now, this restlessness and the pain.]

Kaviraja: [Transl. Are you passing urine? Is he passing urine? When did he pass?]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Yesterday he passed at twelve o' clock.]

Kaviraja: [Transl. What?]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Twelve o'clock.]

Kaviraja: [Transl. You didn't ask after that? After twelve o'clock no more.]

Bhakti-caru: He didn't pass urine after that. Last one is at five past twelve.

Bhavananda: That's all. He hasn't passed any since then.

Prabhupada: Hmm?

Bhakti-caru: He asking about urine, Srila Prabhupada, whether you passed urine afterwards. [Hindi]

Prabhupada: No. [indistinct]

Bhakti-caru: No, Srila Prabhupada.

Prabhupada: Tamala is there?

Tamala Krsna: Yes, Srila Prabhupada.

Prabhupada: So, you reply the letter of M. M. De, "In the absence of your bank [indistinct], we shall send you the money to your house address, and other address that you do not disclose, we cannot send there."

Tamala Krsna: His other address, since he does not disclose, we cannot send there.

Prabhupada: Hmm. "You'll get your money at your house." Is that all right?

Tamala Krsna: Yes, Srila Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada? Do you want us to give something towards repairing this Caitanya Mahaprabhu Mandir?

Prabhupada: Yes.

Tamala Krsna: Is there any amount in particular that you want to be given?

Prabhupada: First of all make an estimate.

Tamala Krsna: There's some maximum amount?

Prabhupada: Bhagatji?

Bhagatji: Srila Prabhupada?

Prabhupada: You can estimate?

Tamala Krsna: You have any idea?

Bhagatji: [Transl. Prabhupada I will go there in the evening and find out. I will take someone with me.]

Tamala Krsna: Jayapataka can go with him. This man who came yesterday was Visvanath Mishra?

Bhagatji: Balaram.

Tamala Krsna: The man who came yesterday was Balaram Mishra?

Bhagatji: Yes, Balaram Mishra.

Tamala Krsna: Yesterday, that was Balaram Mishra or that was Visvanath Mishra?

Bhagatji: Balaram Mishra.

Bhakti-caru: He wrote down. I think I told you.

Prabhupada: Have some kirtana.

Tamala Krsna: Jaya.

Bhavananda: Have some kirtana. [kirtana]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Does that temple belong to some particular person?]

Tamala Krsna: What did Prabhupada say?

Bhakti-caru: Whether that temple belongs to some particular person.

Tamala Krsna: [aside:] We have to find out who that temple belongs to.

Prabhupada: [Transl. How big the temple is?]

Tamala Krsna: What, Srila Prabhupada?

Prabhupada: Nahi, Bhagatji.

Bhagatji: [Transl. Srila Prabhupada.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. How big is the temple?]

Bhagatji: [Transl. Prabhupadaji, I have not seen it till now. Today I will see and tell you everything. I think it is not very big. [Whispering in background] Prabhupada should I go now?]

Prabhupada: [Transl. What?]

Bhagatji: [Transl. So see it should I go now?]

Prabhupada: [Transl. If it is convenient then you go.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. If it is convenient.]

Bhagatji: [Transl. Yes, convenient, I will take bath and then go. Last night I came back late from Agra.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Really?]

Bhagatji: [Transl. Yes. That signboard of the gate. Signboard of the gate. I went to Agra for that.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Why did you go to Agra?]

Bhagatji: [Transl. I went to check the stone work and also check the rates Srila Prabhupada. There is a difference in the rates of Gurukula.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Did they charge more?]

Bhagatji: [Transl. Yes?]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Did they charge more?]

Bhagatji: [Transl. It seems like that. That's why I did not make the payment. He said first you check the rate. So after checking I went there yesterday personally. There is so much difference in the rate. I had to order stone for the gate and also for the Gurukul. I had to order quiet a few stone works.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Gate what?]

Bhagatji: [Transl. Bhaktivedanta Swami Gate. It has to be written, a big sand stone has to be placed up.]

Tamala Krsna: What is the name of the gate meant to be?

Bhakti-caru: Bhaktivedanta Swami Gate on one way; and Bhaktivedanta Swami Dvara in Hindi the other way.

[indistinct background discussion with devotees]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Srila Prabhupada? Please open your mouth, I put little medicine.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. What medicine?]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. This is ark [cow urine]]

Prabhupada: [Hmm.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Open your mouth once more Srila Prabhupada. Little more left.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. No more.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Very little is there.]

Prabhupada: Hmm.

Bhagatji: [Transl. Give some water]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Should I give you little more water?]

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Tamala Krsna: ...begun some pūja.

Prabhupada: Ask him not to do any more [indistinct].

Tamala Krsna: Not to do anymore, unless he does it here.

Prabhupada: If he cannot do here...

Tamala Krsna: Hmm. Seems like he's mostly after money, Srila Prabhupada. Is that true?

Prabhupada: Everyone says like that.

Tamala Krsna: Yes. I got that feeling when I saw him. I felt it was very inappropriate that he should come here and in your condition he should be pressing you for money like that. I didn't feel it was very proper. So, er, Bhagatji is going to be going looking at that temple, so I can tell him that he should tell Balaram Mishra that unless he does the pūja here, then don't do it.

Prabhupada: Bhagatji has not gone?

Tamala Krsna: Well, I'm going to go over to his house right now and just see, Srila Prabhupada. All right? And if Bhagatji's still home, I'll tell him that he should tell that to Balaram Mishra. Either he does the pūja here or don't do it at all. Is that all right?

Prabhupada: Hmm.

Tamala Krsna: You want him to do it here, though?

Prabhupada: Hmm.

Tamala Krsna: All right. All right, I'll do that, Srila Prabhupada. I'll come back and let you know what happened. In case Bhagatji's already gone, then... I'll investigate, Srila Prabhupada, right now.

Bhavananda: Srila Prabhupada?

Prabhupada: Hmm?

Bhavananda: Upendra and I would like to give you an oil massage. Is that all right? But to do a full, good job, we have to lay you on your back. Is that all right?

Prabhupada: Yes. Whatever you like. [break] [Transl. [indistinct] Sit down. [indistinct] What more? The state is very big. Manage it nicely. Make people devotees of Hari. Be yourself a devotee of Hari. Eat and live nicely. There is no question of unhappiness. Am I right?]

Nitai-canda: [Transl. Yes, Srila Prabhupada.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Is your health good now?]

Nitai-canda: [Transl. Yes, Our joy has increased in Mayapur.]

Prabhupada: [Prabhupada becomes emotional and breaks down] [Transl. So much difficulty. Alas! You all are young boys, Anyway you all have taken trouble for Mahaprabhu. I could not do anything. You were beaten up and you tolerated all that. It is good that you have come. I don't know, my condition is such if I will be able to see again. Is everyone well?]

Nitai-canda: [Transl. Yes, Srila Prabhupada. All are well. Nowadays many people come to Mayapur for darsana.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Wipe my tears. Many people come?]

Nitai-canda: [Transl. Yes, Prabhupada.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. How many people come?]

Nitai-canda: [Transl. Some days it is more than a thousand people. And from Murshidabad, Beharampur and Calcutta 2/3 reserved buses come to Mayapur for darsana.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Do you distribute Prasada to them?]

Nitai-canda: [Transl. Yes, Prabhupada. We distribute prasada.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. What prasada do you give?]

Nitai-canda: [Transl. In the temple sweet peanuts are distributed and in the front we have a Mahaprasada stall.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. How many devotees are there?]

Nitai-canda: [Transl. More than one hundred seventy now.]

Prabhupada: Hmm.

Nitai-canda: [Transl. The Gurukula boys of Mayapur are mad to see you. All the devotees are mad to see you.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. This is my condition. How can I go?]

Nitai-canda: [Transl. Thinking that you would come the devotees jubilantly chant and glorify you. They thought you would come. When then heard you would not come, they almost cried. They think about you and say why Srila Prabhupada didn't come.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. To go in this condition is very troublesome. How is the book sale?]

Nitai-canda: [Transl. In the temple, Srila Prabhupada, about more than one hundred books are sold every day. Someday the sell is more. On Sunday the book sell goes up [Bhakticaru whispers about preaching party.] And preaching party, two preaching parties are out for preaching.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Ten to twelve thousand books are being sold every week Srila Prabhupada, Jayapataka Maharaja said.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. What?]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Preaching party and temple together, about ten to twelve thousand books are being sold every week.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Which book?]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Gitara Gana, Bhagavat Darsana, Bhagavaner Katha]

Prabhupada: [Transl. Do you have stock?]

Nitai-canda: [Transl. Yes, Prabhupada we have stock.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Are they printing?]

Nitai-canda: [Transl. Yes, Printing is going on.]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Srila Prabhupada, now Tapomaya is looking after the printing work. He is doing a good job.]

Prabhupada: Hmm.

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Three books are being published right now. Very soon they will come out from the printer.]

Nitai-canda: [Transl. Before Rasa Purnima two books will be printed.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. What are those books?]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. Those are-Bhakti Katha, Jnana Katha and along with Jnana Katha your Buddhi-yoga. And Jnana-Katha and Buddhi-yoga will together come as one book and Bhakti Katha will come as a separate book. And your short articles from 'Gauḍiya Magazine' were collected and it is coming out as Bhakti Ratnavali. And all these together a large book called Vairagya Vidya is going to come.]

Prabhupada: [Transl. When books are printed, they are sold.]

Bhakti-caru: Yes, Srila Prabhupada.]

Jayapataka: [Transl. The book Bhagavaner Katha was printed about twenty four thousand copies. All are finished now. Now they are being re-printed]

Bhakti-caru: [Transl. [Whispering] Twenty-four thousand?]

Jayapataka: Yes.

Prabhupada: Hmm.

Satadhanya: How many people are daily coming to the temple now? [break]

Nitai-canda: [Transl. About one thousand.]

Tamala Krsna: They say that Mayapur's book distribution will soon be rivaling the... [break] [end]