Room Conversation – November 1, 1973, Delhi

731101R1-DELHI [10:25 Minutes]

Where shall I find real happiness?

Prabhupada: vyasanagatya duḥkhanusandhanena. There is misery. Even you go to the moon planet... This is Bhagavata. Before going to your moon planet, here is the information: "Anywhere you go, rascal, these things will follow, janma-mrtyu-jara-vyadhi [Bg 13.9], and inconveniences you'll have suffer." So one is..., one who is intelligent, then, "Where shall I find real happiness?" That is Krsna. Therefore one requires to be very, very intelligent to become Krsna conscious. Sarva, sarvatra vyasanagatya. [SB 5.5.10]

The Sridhara Svami gives note, sarvatra lokantare 'pi. Even if you go to other planet... Now these rascals are going now... Trying, not going. And in the Bhagavata says, lokantare 'pi. Even in other planets. They were going in other planets. That means they were going in other planets; otherwise how it is stated, lokantare, "in other planets also"? From the statement it appears that people used to go. And here, Arjuna went to heavenly planet. And there the

[break] ...heavenly prostitute came to Arjuna. She's prostitute. So when Arjuna refused, that... His father is Indra.

Brahmananda: Yes.

Prabhupada: So Arjuna said that "You have connection with my father. Therefore you are my mother."

Srutakirti: You mentioned him in the Caitanya-caritamrta purport. When one yogi was performing severe austerities, Lord Indra would send the dancing girls, they were called.

Prabhupada: Yes. Apsaras.

Srutakirti: Yes.

Prabhupada: Apsaras.

Srutakirti: He would send them.

Prabhupada: The same thing here. Just like prostitute. They are going to the club. The father is going also; the son is going. And the prostitute is the same. Everywhere, this material happiness-wine, women...

Brahmananda: I think there... That boy, Ranchor, his father said, "You leave Krsna consciousness and I will give you a car and women."

Prabhupada: Yes. Your father also said like that. [laughter] Here father will feel shame to advise the son, or the son will feel shame to talk about sex with father or mother.

Brahmananda: Yes.

Prabhupada: About sex one can talk with friends, not with father and mother.

Brahmananda: Not with...

vyasanagatya duḥkhanusandhanena

Prabhupada: But in Western countries it is very open talk. In open business also. Sarvatra. Sarvatra lokantare 'pi vyasanavagatya iha duḥkhanusahanena. Iha nivrttya-kamya... So one should give up this material sense gratification. The more you become entangled with material sense gratification, more you'll have to remain in this material world. Iti tirthokti malakay oktam kamya-karma paritya gene ti., Aham deva upasyo yesam taiḥ sahgat. Nirvairaa advestrtvam. Samyam anyasya duḥkh…, sukha-duḥkhayoḥ, sukha-duḥkha... Water is wasted

Srutakirti: Almost full. Very slow.

Prabhupada: Viraraghavacarya: deha-geha-yoḥ atmiya-buddher jihasaya tyagecchaya. Atma-buddhi, this family, society, friendship and love. Yes. To feel very much affection... What is called? Attached. Tyageccha. It should be given up. Therefore the sannyasa asrama. Just try to deliver this message very... Everyone is in darkness. Therefore I was speaking. They do not know what is siddhi. Yesterday, you were present? Yes.

Brahmananda: Oh, yes.

Prabhupada: They do not know what is siddhi. What is perfection of life, they do not know. Neither they have information.

Brahmananda: Simply they talk about it.

Prabhupada: All foolish. Andha yathandhair upaniyamanaḥ [SB 7.5.31]. Blind man leading other blind men. There is no sense. Whole civilization. It is, this Krsna con..., our movement is a challenge to everyone-a challenge, general challenge. After all, everyone wants happiness, but they do not know what is happiness.

[pause]

So you can make few puris and khicuri. That's all.

Brahmananda: Srutakirti? Prabhu?

Srutakirti: Palika is already cooking.

Prabhupada: Alright.

Brahmananda: Puris, he said.

Prabhupada: Capati can also be...

Srutakirti: Puri or parata, I think, would be...

Prabhupada: Parata can do.

Srutakirti: Yes, she is...

Prabhupada: So you can give me massage now.

Brahmananda: Massage him.

Srutakirti: Yes. All right.

Brahmananda: Hare Krsna. [offers obeisances]

Prabhupada: Sarvatra vyasanava gatya. So if this advertisement attracts some people, then I can remain here...

Brahmananda: Yes.

Prabhupada: ...to organize this...

Brahmananda: Yes.

Prabhupada: ...for some time. Oh, they have got a bath also?

Srutakirti: Yes.

Prabhupada: Very nice.

Srutakirti: Yamuna has... She has...

Prabhupada: Where is Yamuna?

Srutakirti: I guess she is out shopping also.

Prabhupada: Sarvatra vyasanavagatya... Now here, as soon as we came, we thought it very nice-immediately...

Srutakirti: So many things.

Prabhupada: So many inconveniences. [laughter] Vyasanavagatya. Wherever you go, even though you found it is very convenient, very nice, you must know there is..., there is inconvenience. Don't be so sure that it is full of nice things. No. That is not possible. Sarvatra vyasan avagatya. What is that?

Srutakirti: Fifteen minutes of water.

Prabhupada: Oh. So you, you can get that connection disconnected now. Otherwise you're going...

Srutakirti: Yes. I could also connect over to here.

Prabhupada: Yes. For the time being, you disconnect. Otherwise it will fall down...

Srutakirti: Yes.

Prabhupada: ...with water. Then you create another inconvenience. Yes. That's it. You have taken your bath? Not yet?

Brahmananda: In the morning we took.

Prabhupada: You have taken?

Brahmananda: Oh, yes.

Prabhupada: So where is your oil?

Srutakirti: I have it. [break] [end]