Prabhupada: Krsna says one who is completely free from sinful life, he can become perfectly a devotee. So these are the four pillars of sinful life. Yesam tv anta-gatam papam [Bg. 7.28]. Oh, it is nice park.

Ramesvara: But because this is the age of Kali, even if the Krsna consciousness movement spreads and even captures governments, how can we stop individual people from doing this? (car stops)

Prabhupada: No. You cannot expect cent percent will be sinless. But there must be an ideal section"Oh, here is..." That is wanted. That is wanted, not that you can expect cent percent ideal.

Gargamuni: Gate's locked?

Hari-sauri: So that ideal should be the persons who are living in our asramas.

Ramesvara: No, they're in there.(?)

Gargamuni: That's our man. He jumped over the fence to get the gate open open.

Ramesvara: But now, suppose there is some businessman, and he knows that everybody is wanting this sex. So he is making movie or writing a book describing these things.

Prabhupada: These things were formerly restricted-censor board.

Ramesvara: So there must be censorship...

Prabhupada: Yes.

Ramesvara: ...in a Krsna conscious...

Prabhupada: Oh, yes.

Ramesvara: ...government.

Prabhupada: Oh, yes.

Ramesvara: Censorship of television, radio, all media.

Prabhupada: So let us... (car door opensbreak) The people are becoming godless. How much degradation. Lord Ramacandra appeared, Lord Krsna appeared, Lord Buddha, Caitanya Mahaprabhu appeared and many others, and the people of India, they are becoming godless. Why? Do you follow what I say? Yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati bharata, tadatmanam srjamy aham [Bg. 4.7]. And He does it in India within this universe. And they are become now... This is Kali-yuga. Other countries, they may, but India, so fortunate birth... Bharata-bhumite haila manusya janma. They are becoming degraded so much so that they are doubting, asking questions. (end)