Room Conversation

September 17, 1976, Vrndavana
Prabhupada: ...one horse within the mouththat is God. One hill. One Putana, sucking the breast, her life goes. That is God. Why shall I take some cheap God? We are not so foolish. Here is the... So many great saintly persons hearing about God. Srnvatam sva-kathah krsnah punya-sravana-kirtanah [SB 1.2.17]. They are fools, hearing about Krsna? Such great, great personalities? And Sukadeva Gosvami is speaking. Are they fools? All of them fools? One, two may be fool. They were wholesale fool? All the great personalities, they're all fools? Asita, Devala, Vyasa, Naradaall big personalities. Ramanujacarya, Madhvacarya, Caitanya Mahaprabhuthey're all fools? I may be fool. They are not fools. Mahajano yena gatah sa panthah [Cc. Madhya 17.186]. Why shall I accept a rascal God? Variyan esa te prasnah [SB 2.1.1]. "Oh, you want to hear about Krsna?" Variyan esa te prasnah. Sukadeva was praising: "Oh, glorious, you have taken... Yes." Here is God. Breathing, and innumerable universes are coming. Here is God. Sleeping and breathing is not unnatural. He is also. Nityo nityanam cetanah-like us. But like not us. He can breathe and... That is the difference. Breathing is common. I breathe, He breathes. That's all right. But His breathing, my breathing is not the same breathing. He eats, I eat. That's all right. But when He eats, mother Yasoda sees all the universes are within Him. They cannot understand this. That we are equal, that's all right, but there is difference. So far, I am a living being, He's also a living being, but He's supreme living being. How? Because I breathe, some dust comes and goes out, and when He breathes some universes come out. This is the difference. So because He is breathing and I am breathing, therefore equal. No. Pasyaty acaksuh. He sees, but not like us. Ksetra-jnam capi mam viddhi sarva-ksetresu bharata. He's seeing every particular thing, anywhere. Ksetra-jnam capi mam viddhi sarva-ksetresu. I can see within my limit, or I can feel pains and pleasure within my... But He knows everything, everywhere. Sarva-ksetresu. And because I cannot become like Him, therefore Mayavadis say kalpana, "This is imagination." He wants to make God like himself, and he wants to become like God. Therefore all description about God he thinks imagination, kalpana. Kalpana. Dr. Frog. Huh? More than this water, the...? How it is possible? Atlantic Ocean, very very big. What is that big? Maybe four feet, five, yes. Otherwise kalpana. It it is not within his "feet" estimation, then he's kalpana, imagination. This is their knowledge. (indistinct) I can think of three feet, four feet, five feet, ten feet, hundred feet-like that. And when I'm informed, "No, no, it is unlimited feet." Ah, this is kalpana. This is going on. So what other news? I have to send one letter to the governor. [break] Sutyam abhijata-kovidah. Yatha hi sutyam abhijata-kovidah samadisan vipra mahad-gunas tatha. Where this class of literature is now. Yatha sutyam, in the maternity home or maternity room, Sutyam. Abhijata-kovidah. The astrologers who can estimate the newly born child's destiny. Whatever they predicted, according to them, yatha hi sutyam abhijata-kovidah samadisan. They said that "This child will be like this"exactly he became. Pariksid dvija-varya-siksaya, and being trained up by first-class brahmanas, and the child came perfectly the king. Where is that king?
Hari-sauri: There're no kings.
Prabhupada: Where is that President? They're all drunkards, woman-hunters, meat-eaters. Exactly according to prediction, he became a young man and he was entrusted the kingdom, "Now you rule." (chants verse)
Each verse is a song. I wanted our students should do that.
Hari-sauri: To learn how to sing them nicely. To learn how to sing them?
Prabhupada: Yes. I can give them the tune. (chants first line of another verse) [break] ...ghnantam go-mithunam pada. This is Kali-yuga's king. Nrpa-linga. Dressed like king. Nrpa-linga-dharam, but sudra. Nrpa-linga-dharam sudram ghnantam go-mithunam pada. Very expert in cow-killing.
Hari-sauri: That's a very accurate prediction.
Prabhupada: Third-class, fourth-class men, dressed like President and king. Business: plunder money from the citizens and kill cow. 1965, 17 September, I landed at Boston.
Hari-sauri: You've done a lot of things since then.
Devotee: Changed the world.
Prabhupada: Much water has gone down. (end)

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