Room Conversation

September 5, 1976, Vrndavana
Prabhupada: ...they're reading now. Here, although we have got books, nobody reads. But there they are reading. But nobody is... (microphone moving) That means they are concentrating (indistinct) with so many books. There are other books also. Why they cannot sell so many books. Unless public is interested... If one has read one part of Bhagavatam, he has got some impression, and actually that is the... [break] One young gentleman came, I do not know where. He simply asked me, "Swamiji, can I talk with you?" "Yes, sit down." His first appreciation was, "Swamiji, where you have got so vast knowledge?" I have already told some of you. So these people, these Americans and Europeans, they are intelligent. They are seeing that here are some ideas which is not to be found throughout the whole world. Therefore they are purchasing. Actually, it is right here. Every verse, every sloka is so sublime, and if it is properly explained people must appreciate. There is no doubt about it. And they are doing that. In our country, due to the loss of our own culture and poverty, we have now taken, "Money is everything." Wherefrom you are coming?
Rupa Vilasa: Gurukula.
Gopala Krsna: He's in charge of Gurukula. He's here for the last six months. Jagadisa left him here. [break]
Prabhupada: ...he has got?
Devotee: What taste does he have?
Rupa Vilasa: He seems to have a taste more for studying, but not too much for teaching.
Prabhupada: Study is not to teach. What is that study?
Rupa Vilasa: I mean to say he likes very much studying languages and writing. He's a good scholar. But...
Prabhupada: Has he written anything?
Rupa Vilasa: In the classroom with the children he is not so expert.
Prabhupada: No, no. Has he written anything? You say that he likes to read and write. So has he written anything?
Rupa Vilasa: Just as far as I know, some articles for Back to Godhead.
Prabhupada: So why does he not write? If he has got a taste for something particular he can do that but nobody knows where he is.
Rupa Vilasa: What I came to ask was that...
Prabhupada: He's not fixed up. He wanted to take charge of the Deity worship, then he went away.
Devotee: He has got a visa.
Gopala Krsna: He has left Bombay long ago. Fifteen days ago.
Harikesa: With four thousand rupees.
Gopala Krsna: He's in Radha-kunda, they say.
Prabhupada: Just see.
Harikesa: Really? He's in Radha-kunda?
Devotee: One boy came from Bombay, he told me, "If I leave I have to go."
Prabhupada: When did he say?
Devotee: (indistinct)
Prabhupada: Then he's Radha-kunda.
Gopala Krsna: In Bombay you...
Prabhupada: He has taken four thousand rupees and gone to Radha-kunda.
Devotee: Yogananda is in Govardhana?
Gopala Krsna: No. Yogananda is in Delhi. He's going to come here.
Prabhupada: This is his taste. Sit idly, and become famous as very good scholar.
Rupa Vilasa: He did not come to class so often. He did not even come to teach so often. Srila Prabhupada, when Dayananda prabhu was teaching the children he was a very good teacher and he liked very much to teach. Now I know he is in Tehran upon your order, but still he was very effective as a teacher of Bhagavad-gita to the children.
Prabhupada: Restless, that's all. Mind not fixed up. Restless. Now what he'll do with that four thousand rupees? It is very good program. If I get some thousands of rupees and sit down in Radha-kunda and eat, that is very good idea.
Gopala Krsna: I think we can find him. We know where he is.
Prabhupada: You can find him, that is not difficult, but what is his mentality. Why he has gone to Radha-kunda if he was teaching here? You cannot rely upon him. When he'll go (indistinct). Radha-kunda, Radharani's place, if anyone thinks that it is very easy to remain in Radha-kunda, the topmost place. Rupa Gosvami has spokenhe must speak about Radha-kunda. But what he has spoken about other things?
atyaharah prayasas ca
prajalpo niyamagrahah
jana-sangas ca laulyam ca
sadbhir bhaktir vinasyati
[NoI 2]
So Radha-kunda, who will live Radha-kunda? One is topmost devotee, and if he mixes with third-class devotee, how he is fit for living in Radha-kunda? There is no difference between Radha-kunda and Radharani. So how you can jump over Radharani? Radha-kunda and Radharani nondifferent. How you can enjoy Radha-kunda by swimming? You cannot touch with your feet even Radha-kunda. You can take little water and keep it on the head. That is respectful to Radha-kunda. Of course, things are going on like that, but strictly speaking, Radha-kunda should be respected as Radharani herself. That is Radha-kunda consciousness. Highest Radha-kunda consciousness. And if you want to live in Radha-kunda, then why he has taken four thousand rupees from Giriraja?
Gopala Krsna: Actually, Giriraja gave him that money to buy books for our library of our new temple, for the library...
Prabhupada: So why should he take, why should he take the responsibility for purchasing if he's interested in Radha-kunda?
Gopala Krsna: Yes, that's not right. He had his own money also. He just got a lot of money from his wife. Three, four hundred dollars he told me.
Prabhupada: That's all right. Money is not the strength for understanding Radharani. If you have got some money, by the strength of money you'll understand Radharani. That is another bogus thing. Radharani...
Indian man: (Hindi conversation for some time)
Gopala Krsna: Giriraja was asking me for the books.
Prabhupada: Just see. The man who paid him, he was inquiring where are the books? (Hindi) That Mukunda, his class friend, he was doing that. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu rejected him. (Hindi) "He goes everywhere." (Hindi) We have got index in Caitanya-caritamrta. You can find out what is the meaning of... (Hindi) ...one who is rejected. (Hindi) (end)

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