Room Conversation

April 22, 1976, Melbourne
Prabhupada: What is that?
Pusta Krsna: The machine, I forgot to turn it..., one knob down. I wanted to tape what you were saying because.... [break] We find actually it's true that when we try to speak philosophy sometimes to unwilling persons, they take that we are trying to convert them.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Pusta Krsna: And therefore they feel threatened. They react in an adverse way, put up so many barriers.
Prabhupada: Chanting they will take part. That's it.
Pusta Krsna: Before you went to America, in India, before 1965, were people coming at all, Indian people, to learn anything? Were they interested in any way?
Prabhupada: No.
Pusta Krsna: Now they're coming, so many.
Prabhupada: They were coming. But I was engaged in writing. I was not visiting many...
Hari-sauri: [break] ...when they begin to write, then they finish up their activities and retire and simply write. But you wrote first and then came out.
Pusta Krsna: I personally, I don't think that even Americans or Westerners would have accepted even your teachings as clear as they are without having your personal association and seeing your example. I think people would have thought that it's totally impossible to do such a thing.
Hari-sauri: It would have remained theoretical. But because you came and showed practical example, then everything has become very easy.
Prabhupada: Yes. Apani acari prabhu jivera siksaya. That is the way of teaching. Caitanya Mahaprabhu used to do.
Pusta Krsna: I've read some of your old Back to Godhead magazines, and actually you've been saying the same thing all along, with the same force also. Some of your critiques of Dr. Radhakrishna's Bhagavad-gita and modern science...
Prabhupada: You have read?
Pusta Krsna: Oh, yes.
Prabhupada: "Scholars Deluded."
Hari-sauri: Sometimes the devotees say that "Now Prabhupada is preaching much more strongly than ever before." But then, when we read the old Back to Godheads, it's exactly the same.
Pusta Krsna: Even if we read the First Canto of Bhagavatam... You translated that in India before you came. It's so powerful. (end)

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