Prabhupada: ...purport of the Bhagavata. Diva vyartha-karmabhih. Karmabhih. Diva ca vyartha-karmabhih [SB 1.16.9]. [break] That's all.

Karandhara: Oh, that... There is... Let's see. 1968, nineteen sixty..., 1970 there was a lot of rain. But I've never seen it rain four days in a row like this, just all day.

Prabhupada: All day and night.

Karandhara: I don't ever recall it raining so long in succession. Last year it didn't rain very much at all. Very little rain.

Prabhupada: Yes. Last year all over the world there was drought. [break]

Hanuman: ...and they had some temples there in Rio Janeiro and San Pablo, and they were followers of Gaurasundara and Siddha-svarupa. And I think they're still there. And when I was there they were making kirtana, and they were chanting Hare Krsna. In the middle of their kirtana, they would stop their kirtana, and they would chant "Jaya jaya Siddha-svarupa," and "Jaya jaya Gaurasundara." So I could not do anything. I told them it was all wrong and everything, and uh... But there is many, many innocent people who are following. They go there for the first time and they make them chant "Jaya jaya Siddha-svarupa" and "Jaya jaya Gaurasundara," like this. So we were telling, we were talking with...

Prabhupada: There is no harm in giving "jaya" to Vaisnavas provided they follow the Vaisnava principles. Otherwise, to glorify Vaisnava is not bad. (pause) No, no "jaya" to Mahaprabhu, Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu? They chanted?

Satsvarupa: Were they chanting, "Jaya Lord Caitanya, Nityananda Prabhu?"

Hanuman: Yes, they also chanting, "Bhaja sri-krsna-caitanya." Yes. But the point is that they were chanting the name of Siddha-svarupa Gosvami and Gaurasundara Gosvami, uh, Gaurasundara Adhikari.

Prabhupada: If one is Vaisnava, then to glorify him is..., that's not...

Hanuman: So that's all right.

Satsvarupa: As long as that Vaisnava is following the principles.

Prabhupada: But they should not attempt like that in the presence of their spiritual master. That is not good. When you found this?

Satsvarupa: When did you find they were doing this?

Hanuman: When I was there. I was in Brazil about three months ago. And the only books they had published is a book written by Siddha-svarupa Gosvami. They had published one book of him, and they were distributing this.

Prabhupada: What is the name of that book?

Hanuman: It was an introduction to Krsna consciousness, question and answer.

Prabhupada: You have seen that book?

Hanuman: Yes, Prabhupada. I have give to Karandhara.

Prabhupada: So is there anything awkward against our devotional life?

Karandhara: I can't read it. It's in Portuguese.

Prabhupada: Oh, it was in Portuguese language.

Hanuman: Yes, it's in Portuguese. The only, the only point is that he quotes in this book, he quotes more the books of Gaurasundara than your books.

Prabhupada: Eh?

Hanuman: Gaurasundara has written some books, and so Siddha-svarupa, answering the question, quotes from the book of Gaurasundara, and he mentioned, "My professor, Gaurasundara, taught me," and he quotes many, many time. Practically more from the book of Gaurasundara than from your books. (end)