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Srimad-Bhagavatam 3.28.1

Honolulu, June 1, 1975
Prabhupada: You have got book? [break]
Devotee: Om namo bhagavate vasudevaya. (devotees respond) [break]
Prabhupada: Word meaning.
Devotee: (leads chanting of synonyms) "The Personality of Godhead said:. My dear mother, O daughter of the King, now I shall explain to you the system of yoga, the object of which is to concentrate the mind. By practicing this system one can become joyful and progressively advance towards the path of the Absolute Truth."
Prabhupada:
So this word yoga is very popular in the Western countries. Practically everyone knows the word at least, yoga. And many so-called yogis come here, and I do not want to discuss. But yoga is a very nice process by which you can make your mind very peaceful, and then you can make progress towards spiritual life, sat-pathe. Our, there are two ways. One is called sat-patha, and one is called asat-patha. Asat-patha means..., asat means which will not exist. That is called asat. And sat means which will exist. The spirit will exist; matter will be finished. Now you have got this body. You have got this body. This body will be finished, everyone knows. But the spirit soul within the body, that will not finish. Na hanyate hanyamane sarire [Bg. 2.20]. That is spiritual education in the beginning. We should understand what is spirit, sat. Asato ma sad gamah. This is the Vedic instruction. "Don't make much progress on the path of nonpermanent things." This is Vedic injunction. Asato ma sad gamah Tamasi ma jyotir gamah: "Don't keep yourself in darkness. Make progress towards the light."
So here also the same thing is statedthat yoga process is to keep the mind in peaceful condition, tranquillity, and then you can concentrate your mind towards the Supreme Absolute. This is yoga process, not a gymnastic, a gymnastic asana: yama, niyama, astanga-yoga. Astanga, eight kinds of practices, asana. Asana, the generally the yogis come here to show you the asana, how to sit in different posture. That is mechanical. That is also very nice to bring the mind under control. But real business is after your mind is controlled. These processes which generally the yogis demonstrate, that is the process of controlling the mind. The real meaning of yoga: yoga indriya-samyamah. The authorities of yoga practice, they say the yoga practice means to control the senses. That is the yoga practice.
So here Kapiladeva... Kapiladeva is incarnation of Krsna, Bhagavan Kapila. There are twelve authorized persons who can give you real knowledge of spiritual life. So out of the twelve persons, Kapiladeva is one. It is stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam,
svayambhur naradah sambhuh
kapila kumar manuh
prahlado janako bhismo
balir vaiyasakir vayam
[SB 6.3.20]
It was spoken by Yamaraja to the servants who went to take Ajamila to hellish condition of life and he was saved by the Visnuduta. Because at the end of his life he chanted "Narayana." Actually, Narayana was his youngest son, and he was very much attached to the little boy. So when Yamaduta in ferocious feature came to take him, he became too much afraid, and because he was accustomed to his son, Narayana, so out of fear he chanted very loudly, "Narayana, please come. Who are these men?" So simply by chanting "Narayana," immediately from Vaikuntha the servants of Narayana came, and they saved him from the hands of Yamaduta. That will be explained in the Sixth Canto how simply by chanting the name of the Supreme Personality of Godhead at the end of life, ante narayana smrtih [SB 2.1.6], that is the perfection of life. If at the end of life you can remember Narayana, then life is successful. You go back to home, back to Godhead.
So the real purpose is that we should give up this asat-patha. You sit properly, it is not... Asat-patha and sat-patha. Here it is said sat-patham. Sat-patham means our permanent goal of life. We are now interested with nonpermanent goal of life. People are thinking, "If I get a nice car, a nice apartment, a nice wife, a nice bank balance, then I will be happy." But this is asat, because none of this will stay. The bank balance also will not stay, the wife also will not stay, and good position, that will not... As soon as the body is finished, everything is finished. Therefore they are called asat. Narottama dasa Thakura has sung, sat-sanga chadi'kainu asate vilasa, te-karane lagila mor karma-bandha-phansa. Sat-sanga. Sat-sanga means persons who are making progress towards the permanent life. They are called sat. Just like this Krsna consciousness movement. This movement means we are training our disciples how to make progress towards permanent life. And the material world means they are making progress towards nonpermanent life. So those who are intelligent, they are not interested in nonpermanent life. And those who are foolish, mudha, they are interested in this temporary life, and they do not know what is there after death, neither they have got any knowledge what is spirit, what is matter. Ignorance. In darkness.
Therefore one is recommended to associate with sat. Satam prasangan mama virya-samvido bhavanti hrt-karna-rasayanah kathah [SB 3.25.25]. Satam prasangan. In the association of devotees the discussion on the matter of the Absolute Truth becomes very palatable. We have to hear about the Absolute Truth through the association of persons who are endeavoring to make progress towards eternal life, sat-patham. Yogasya laksanam. What are the symptoms of yoga? Kapiladeva, Kapiladeva is son of Devahuti. Devahuti is the mother of Kapiladeva. The mother is taking instruction from son. So it doesn't matter. One should not think, "Oh, he is my son. What instruction I shall take from him? I know better than him." No. Son or anyone, anyone, if he knows the science of Krsna he becomes guru. This is the Vedic system. It doesn't matter. Caitanya Mahaprabhu approved this. Caitanya Mahaprabhu was born in a very respectable brahmana family. He was very advanced learned scholar, and after all He took sannyasa. So when He was discussing with Ramananda Raya Ramananda Raya was a grhastha, householder and governor of Madras, means politician. A householder, politician, and he was born not in brahmana family; in karana, kayastha family. They are considered as sudras. So he had no position to instruct Caitanya Mahaprabhu. But Caitanya Mahaprabhu gave him the place of instructor and He took the position of a listener. Just see Caitanya Mahaprabhu's pastimes. He gave him the position of instructor and He took the position of student, listener.
So Ramananda Raya was feeling a little agitation, that "How is that? I am a grhastha, householder, not even born in high family, brahmana family. And I am engaged in politics, I am governor, and He is a sannyasi, renounced order of life. How is that that He is asking question and I am replying? The question is enquired by the student, and the answer is given by the spiritual master. So how is that?" He was feeling little agitation. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu immediately encouraged him, "Don't hesitate." This is Caitanya Mahaprabhu's example. He is teaching everything by His personal example. His purpose was that in this Kali-yuga the distinction between brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra will be almost finished. Then who will instruct? Because the instructor's position is brahmana. One must be brahmana. Brahmana's business is pathan pathan yajan yajan dana pratigraha. A brahmana should be personally very highly learned scholar. Therefore brahmana is called pandita. Even in India, still a brahmana is addressed, "panditji." He may be a fool number one, but he is addressed like that, "Panditji." So because without becoming a learned scholar nobody can become a brahmana... We are also giving our student position as brahmana, but if he remains a fool number one, then we are misusing our attempt. He should be very learned scholar. That should be the aim. And there is no difficulty to become a learned scholar because we have got so many books. You simply read and digest what we are speaking. Not that we are simply meant for selling books. We are reading. We must read. Then our position as brahmana will be fulfilled. Because brahmanas are teacher. Anyone who can teach, he is brahmana. So unless you read thoroughly what you are going to speak to the world, how you can become a brahmana and pandita? You should carefully note this.
Anyway, Ramananda Raya, he was very learned although he was not born in a brahmana family. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu was taking lessons from him. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu said, kiba vipra, kiba sudra, nyasi kene naya yei krsna-tattva-vetta, sei 'guru' haya [Cc. Madhya 8.128]. Yei krsna-tattva-vetta: "Anyone who knows the science of Krsna, he becomes a guru." So every one of you can become guru provided you understand the science of Krsna. The science of Krsna... (aside:) Who is spreading leg like that? He can sit back side. This is not the way. Science of Krsna, first of all one must know what is Krsna. That is being explained by Krsna Himself in the Bhagavad-gita, and when he understands what is Krsna, then he can hear further about Krsna. The books are there, Srimad-Bhagavatam and Nectar of Devotion, Teachings of Lord Caitanyaall we are teaching the science of Krsna. So here also Caitanya Mahaprabhu said, yei krsna-tattva-vetta, sei 'guru' haya: [Cc. Madhya 8.128] "Anyone who knows the science of Krsna, he can become guru." That is our mission. That is not my mission; that is Caitanya Mahaprabhu's mission. So it doesn't matter you Europeans, Americans although not born in brahmana family. It doesn't matter. That is Caitanya Mahaprabhu's approval. If you try to understand the science of Krsna, then, and if you behave properly, you can teach about Krsna all over your country, all over the world. That is my mission. And that is approved by Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Try to understand the science of Krsna. Then you will be able to preach nicely and people will be benefited.
So here Devahuti (s)he is taking lesson from his (her) son. The son is given birth by the mother. She may think that "I have given birth to you. What you will teach me?" No. Because he knows the science of Krsna. Or He is Krsna Himself. Therefore she is taking lesson from her son, exalted son. She is very fortunate lady, Devahuti. She is addressed here, nrpatmaje. Nrpa means king; atma-ja means offspring. So she was the daughter of the emperor of the higher planetary system, Manu, Vaivasvata Manu. The Vaivasvata Manu's name you have heard in the Bhagavad-gita. Imam vivasvate yogam proktavan aham avyayam, vivasvan manave prahuh [Bg. 4.1]. This Manu, Vaivasvata Manu, vivasvan manave prahuh. The sun-god, whose name is Vivasvan, he spoke to his son, Manu. This Manu is the father of Devahuti. She is not ordinary girl. So how fortunate she was. She was the daughter of Vaivasvata Manu. She... Vaivasvata Manu was the emperor of the heavenly planet. And the wife of Kardama Muni. Kardama Muni was a great yogi. So while practicing yoga, he thought of marrying. That, it is natural among young men. So this Devahuti's father... The Devahuti proposed to her father, "My dear father, I wish to marry the Kardama Muni. He is practicing yoga in such and such place. If you will take me there then I shall be very pleased." So Manu, the king, he thought that "My daughter wants to marry this yogi. All right, let me take her there." And she was brought by the king, and Kardama Muni was said that "I have brought my daughter and you marry him (her)." And he thought that "I wanted to marry, so Krsna has sent such a beautiful, exalted girl, daughter of the emperor of the..." So he accepted. And he left the daughter with Kardama Muni and he went away.
So this princess, means daughter of Manu, she began to serve Kardama Muni. And in the yoga asrama, it was a cottage, and there was no good food, no maidservant, nothing of the sort. So became gradually very lean and thin, and she was very beautiful, king's daughter. So Kardama Muni thought that "Her father gave me, and she is becoming deteriorated in her health, in her beauty. So as husband, I have got to do something for her." So by yoga power he constructed a big city airplane. That is yogic power. Not 747. (laughter) A such a big city, there was lake, there was garden, there was maidservant, big, big palaces, and the whole thing was floating in the sky, and he made her see all the different planets. In this way... That is stated in the Fourth Chapter, you can read it. So as a yogi he satisfied her in every respect. And then she wanted children. So Kardama Muni begot in her nine daughters and one son, with the promise that "As soon as you get your children, then I will go away. I am not going to live forever with you." So she agreed. So after getting the children out of which this Kapiladeva was one, the son, and when He was grown up He also said, "My dear mother, My father has left home. I will also leave home. If you want to take some instruction from Me you can take. Then I shall go away." So before going away He is giving instruction to His mother.
Now, this Devahuti's position is a perfect woman. She got good father, she got good husband, and she got excellent son. So woman has got three stages in life. Man has got ten stages. These three stages mean that when she is younger, she must live under the protection of father. Just like Devahuti when she was grown up, young, she proposed her father that "I want to marry that gentleman, that yogi." And the father also offered. So, so long she was not married she remained under the protection of the father. And when she was married she remained with the yogi husband. And she was troubled in so many ways because she was princess, daughter of king. And this yogi, he was in a cottage, no food, no shelter, nothing of the sort. So she had to suffer. She never said that "I am king's daughter. I was raised in so opulent condition of life. Now I have got a husband who cannot give me a nice apartment, nice food. Divorce him." No. That was never done. That is not the position. "Any way my husband may be, whatever he may be, because I have accepted some gentleman as my husband I must look to his comforts, and whatever his position, it doesn't matter." This is the duty of the woman. But that is Vedic instruction. Nowadays, as soon as there is little discrepancy, disagreement-divorce. Find out another husband. No. She remained. And then she got the nicest child, Personality of Godhead, Kapila. So this is the three stages. Woman should aspire first of all, by his (her) karma one is given the place under a suitable father, and then under suitable husband, and then produce a nice child like Kapiladeva.
So Kapiladeva is addressing His mother, nrpatmaje: "My dear princess, the daughter of King..." He is not addressing her (His) mother as the wife of Kardama Muni. Because she would be little puffed up that "I am the daughter of king." So..., and Kapiladeva knew how to flatter woman. (chuckles) So he addressed her (His) mother, nrpatmaje, "My dear daughter of king." She felt very much proud, "Yes, I am daughter of king." So "I will speak to you about the symptoms of yoga system." Yogasya laksanam vaksye sabijasya. With authorized statement. He is Bhagavan, He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Whatever He speaks, that is authorized. You cannot argue, because for the..., for us, we are conditioned soul. We have got four defectsmeans we commit mistake, we become illusioned or bewildered, our senses are imperfect, and, because everything is imperfect, still we want to become teacher, that is cheating. I am imperfect. How can I teach? That is going on. A imperfect person is teaching about transcendental knowledge. Therefore people are being cheated. Our process is to take lesson from the perfect person and distribute it, just we are doing. Krsna consciousness movement means we are preaching what Krsna has said, that's all. Not that we have manufactured something new. No. That is not our business. How I can manufacture? I am imperfect. How can I manufacture? But the spiritual master who follows the perfect teacher, he is perfect. He is perfect because whatever he is speaking, that is the statement of the perfect person.
I have several times explained to you. One may be imperfect, just like a child, he is imperfect. But he has learned, he has asked his father, "My dear father, what is this?" The father has explained, "My dear child, this is microphone." So if he, if the child says, "This is microphone," then that is perfect, because he has learned it from his father, "This is microphone." So even though he is child, he is repeating the words of the father. He is fixed up, that "My father has told me this thing. It is perfect." He is convinced. So he says, "This is microphone." So, who will protest? Or how you can say, "How this child can say like..." Yes. He can say, provided he has taken the lesson from the father. This is the way. So our teaching, Krsna consciousness, is perfect because we have taken the lesson from Krsna. Just try to understand how perfect we are. We don't say anything as "I think," "maybe," "perhaps." No. We never say. We say definite. Definitive information. Just like they are speculating Darwin's theory of evolution. We have got perfect knowledge from the sastras: jalaja nava-laksani sthavara laksa-vimsati. Now, we say there are 900,000 forms of life within the water. We have not gone within the water; neither as biologist we have studied. We have taken the perfect information from the perfect source. We say 900,000. This is called Vedic knowledge. This is perfect. Jalaja nava-laksani sthavara laksa-vimsati. This evolution theory is already mentioned. Darwin has taken this from this Vedic knowledge, and he has placed the whole thing in his imaginative way. Otherwise the evolutionary process is mentioned in the Vedic scripture. First of all aquatics, then plants and trees, then insect, then birds, then beasts, then human being. Now, in the human being form, because by gradual process of evolution we have got advance consciousness, the, I mean to say, subject matter is given to us. Now make your choice now again. Nature has given this opportunity whether you want to go the sat-patha or asat-patha; whether you are again wish to go to the cycle of evolution or if you want to make further progress. Further progress means this human form of life you can go to the higher planetary system. Urdhvam gacchanti sattva-sthah [Bg. 14.18]. Yanti deva-vrata devan [Bg. 9.25]. Now you can make your choice. You are now civilized, very advanced intelligence. Now whether you want to go to the cycle of evolution again or whether you want to stop this and go to your original position. These two things are there: sat-patha and asat-patha. If you make further progress this asat-patha, asat-patha asat. Asat means it will not stay.
So if you remain engaged in this bodily business, that is asat. Just try to understand what is asat. Asat means which will not stay. So everyone knows that this body will not stay. It will be ended today, tomorrow, or after years it will be finished. Therefore if you are simply engaged in the bodily concept of life, as people are generally engaged... People are thinking, "I am American," "I am Indian," "I am brahmana," "I am ksatriya," "I am cat," "I am dog." Every living entity is simply thinking in bodily. That is asat-patha. If we remain on the bodily concept of life, then we are no better than the dogs and cats. But unfortunately modern civilization is going on on this bodily concept of life. That is asat-patha. But here the yoga system is being taught by Kapiladeva to His mother for... [break] The purpose is prasannam yati sat-patham. By the yoga practice, you have to make your mind very transparent, clean, and then you can go towards sat-patham, eternal life. That is being taught. So He will go on teaching.
Next verse is:
sva-dharmacaranam saktya
vidharmac ca nivartanam
daivat labdhena santosa
atmavic-caranarcanam
The first step is given there, that sva-dharmacaranam. Sva-dharmacaranam saktya. As far as possible, be situated in your natural life. Natural life means there are three modes of material nature. So somebody is affected or infected by some modes of material naturesattva-guna, rajo-guna, tamo-guna. So the sastra has made the path so clear that in either of these infection, either sattva-guna, rajo-guna, tamo-guna, you can make progress spiritual life. Because we must be in either of these. Just like a train is going on: there is first class, second class, third class. So because the train is going, either you place yourself in the first-class compartment or second class, you will go. You will go. It is not that because you are situated in the third-class compartment the your train is not going. No, you can go. Similarly, Bhagavad-gita has taught that one can go back to home, back to Godhead, in any position, provided he knows how to tackle the situation.
Sva-dharma. Sva-dharma will be explained, and it is explained in the Bhagavad... Sva-dharma means one may be in goodness, one may be in passion, one may be in darkness, and one may be in mixture. So that is divided into four classes of men: the brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, and sudra. So Bhagavad-gita teaches us that anyone, if he worships the Supreme Personality of Godhead by sva-dharma, by his occupational duty, he also becomes perfect. For example, just like Arjuna. He was a military man, and his sva-dharma, his occupational duty, was to fight. So that fighting capacity he engaged himself in the service of Krsna, and he became a devotee. Krsna certified, bhakto 'si. What did he do? He did not chant Hare Krsna mantra. Of course, he was chanting Hare Krsna mantra constantly because he was thinking of Krsna. He had no other business than to think of Krsna. But by formality he did not become a Vaisnava or chanting. But he was always thinking of Krsna. Therefore he is certified as the foremost yogi. Yoginam api sarvesam [Bg. 6.47].
So that is the trickhow we shall always think of Krsna even we are engaged in our occupation duty. That will make us perfect. Actually, real sva-dharma is to be attached to Krsna. Because we are part and parcel of Krsna, but because we have got this material body, we have got this bodily concept of life. Therefore the Vedic injunction is divided that one class should be brahmana, one class should be ksatriya, one class should be vaisya, another should be sudra. In this way they should cooperate for the ultimate benefit of life, just like in our body there is the head, there is the arm, there is the belly, and there is the leg. So we are all cooperating for upkeep of the body. Similarly, if either as a brahmana or as a ksatriya or as a sudra we keep up in mind that we have to serve Krsna, then in either position we can become perfect. That is confirmed in many places.
In whichever position you may be, if you try to satisfy Krsna according to your capacity, sva-dharmacarana saktya, here it is said. Sva-dharmacaranam saktya vidharmac ca nivartanam. Vidharma vidharma means anti. Anti-occupational duty. Ultimately our occupational duty is to serve Krsna. Anything which does not help me in serving Krsna, if we give it up, and anything which helps me to serve Krsna, if we accept, in that way if we live, then gradually we become situated in our original constitutional position, eternal servant of God. And that is the perfection of life. It will be taught gradually.
Thank you very much. (end)

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