721016SB.VRN
Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.2.5

Vrndavana, October 16, 1972
Pradyumna: (leads chanting, etc.)
munayah sadhu prsto 'ham
bhavadbhir loka-mangalam
yat krtah krsna-samprasno
yenatma suprasidati
[SB 1.2.5]
[break]
Prabhupada:
...bhavadbhir loka-mangalam
yat krtah krsna-samprasno
yenatma suprasidati
So the sages in the Naimisaranya, their inquiry was that "After departure of Krsna, the principles of religion, under whom they are now protected?" Religious principles should be protected. Therefore, Krsna's another name is Dharmasetu: He protects. Yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati bharata, tadatmanam srjamy aham [Bg. 4.7]. Just like it is the duty of the state, of the government, to give protection to the department of law and order, similarly Krsna, or the Supreme Personality of Godhead, He gives protection to religious principles. But the world is so deteriorated that Krsna comes, He gives protection, makes things in order, leaves His instruction... Just like when Krsna came, He personally supervised the religious principles, and practically, He killed so many demons who were against religious principles. Demons means those who are against religious principles. And He left His instruction, Bhagavad-gita, how to follow religious principles.
The sum and substance of religious principle is to surrender to God. Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. This is religion. Religion means the order given by God. That's all. This is the simple definition of religion. If you, anyone asks "What do you mean by religion?" Religion means to abide by the orders of God. That's all. Just like good citizen means who abides by the order of the government. That's all. There is no difficulty to understand what is good citizen. Whatever the government gives you law, and if you follow, then you are a good citizen. Similarly, there is order by God, and anyone who follows that order, he's religious. Religious does not mean a kind of faith. That English translation of the word religion is not sufficient. Faith"I believe in this, I may not believe in this"that is different thing. But law means you must. There is no question of you believe or not believe. You believe or not believe, it doesn't matter. Law is law.
Suppose there is fire. I believe that "I'll touch the fire; it will not burn." That is not law. It must burn. Even a child catches the fire, it will burn. There is no excuse. Similarly, dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam [SB 6.3.19]. (aside:) (Hindi) Let him come and sit down. No, no... (Hindi) So you cannot violate the laws of God. Any one of us, we know. Just like we, we eat... (Hindi) Eating is the law of God. Everyone should eat. But if you eat more, if you violate the law... You can eat whatever you require, little. But if you eat more, if you violate this law, then you'll be diseased, immediately. Daivi hy esa gunamayi mama maya duratyaya [Bg. 7.14]. As soon as you violate the laws of God, you'll be punished.
Therefore Suta Gosvami says, munayah sadhu prsto 'ham bhavadbhir loka-mangalam [SB 1.2.5]. "You have inquired about Krsna. It is a very noble question." Sadhu. Sadhu means pious, noble. So if people simply inquire about Krsna, what is Krsna... Just like we are preaching all over the world to arouse this inquisitiveness about Krsna. And actually, that is happening. Our Krsna books, wherever we present... Because this Krsna consciousness movement is now spread all over the world, they are very much inquisitive to know about Krsna. Our this Krsna Trilogy is selling anywhere like hotcakes. They're inquisitive now to know about Krsna. So this is very good sign. If you... If simply people try to inquire about Krsna, day will come he will be liberated. Just like in Caitanya-caritamrta it is said, krsne bhakti kaile sarva-karma krta haya. Visvasa sabde...
Devotee: Sraddha.
Prabhupada:
Sraddha, to advance in spiritual life, the beginning is sraddha, faith. That is faith. Sraddha... Not exactly faith. Sraddha means respectful: "Oh, it is nice." That is called sraddha.
So Srila Rupa Gosvami, in front of whom we are now speaking, he gave us the definition how one can make progress in spiritual life. Everyone is blind after material way of life. So the mission of human life is to get out of these clutches of maya. That is the real mission of life. We are missing the point. Yasyatma-buddhih kunape tri-dhatuke [SB 10.84.13]. We are accepting this body as everything. And the modern civilization means to enjoy bodily comforts as much as possible. That is perfection of civilization. No. That is not perfection of civilization. That they do not know. Especially the demons, the nondevotees, they do not know.
This question was raised by Hiranyakasipu before Prahlada, that "Why you are after so much Krsna, nonsense God?" So he replied his father, na te viduh svartha-gatim hi visnum: [SB 7.5.31] "My dear father, generally, demons like you..." (laughter) Yes. He addressed his father, asura-varya. Asura-varya means "the best of the demons." He was not afraid. He was a five-years-old boy. And he inquired some questions, "My dear boy, what you have learned first class from your teachers?" (Hindi) So Prahlada Maharaja addressed his father, tat sadhu manye asura-varya. Asura-varya. His father was addressed not "Father." He was addressed, "My dear the best of the asuras..." Asura-varya. Tat sadhu manye 'sura-varya dehinam.
So when you become actually preacher of God consciousness, you cannot make any compromise. You must call the spade a spade. Just like Prahlada Maharaja. Prahlada Maharaja is one of the mahajanas. Out of the twelve mahajanas, he's one of them. Because he was very bold. He was not afraid of his demonic father. He chastised him in so many ways. But he was never afraid. So just like our people are being persecuted in Australia. You know? They have been put into jail because they are preaching Hare Krsna. So this is not very easy thing, easy-going. My Guru Maharaja, Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Maharaja, he did not like that his disciples would be easy-going, cheap Vaisnava. Cheap Vaisnava. Dusta mana tumi kisera vaisnava. He sang a song, "My dear mind, oh, you are going to be a Vaisnava. And what kind of Vaisnava you are?" Dusta mana tumi kisera vaisnava, pratisthara tare, nirjanera ghare, tava hari-nama kevala kaitava. "You are chanting Hare Krsna, imitating Haridasa Thakura or Rupa Gosvami, in a solitary place... Not solitary place. You are thinking of woman and money. That's all. Mind is filled with dirty things. So this kind of bhajana is simply cheating, cheating." He was after preaching. First of all, go door to door. Just like Nityananda Prabhu did it at the risk of life. He was hurt by Jagai-Madhai. Blood came out of His head. Lord Caitanya became very much angry. He wanted to kill immediately Jagai Madhai. Lord Nityananda said, "My dear Sir, You promised that this incarnation You'll not take any weapon, Please be kind upon them."
So this is Nityananda. Nityananda-vamsa means one who takes the risk of preaching work, he can claim Nityananda-vamsa. Not that easy-going. The preaching work is not easy-going. There are so many difficulties. All the big, big preachers... Sri Ramanujacarya. His life was attempted to be killed. Why Ramanujacarya? My Guru Maharaja was attempted to be killed. Twenty-five thousand rupees were raised fund for bribing the police officer. He told me personally. The Navadvipa, Navadvipa Gosais, they wanted to kill him. So preaching work is always risky. Tat sadhu manye 'sura-varya dehinam. So krsna-samprasnah. If you want to make the whole world peaceful, yenatma suprasidati. Suprasidati. Prasidati means to become satisfied, and su means super, extra satisfied. Then people should be educated to inquire about Krsna. That's all. Simply. This very word. Yat krtah krsna-samprasnah. Make such propaganda in a way that everyone becomes inquisitive, "What is this nonsense, Krsna, they are speaking?" At least...
Just like Jagai-Madhai, when they... In the beginning, they were very much adverse to sankirtana, hari-sankirtana, but one day, the Madhai was telling to Jagai, "My dear brother, Jagai, after all, these rascals sing very nicely, (laughter) Hare Krsna. They sing ver..." "Oh, you are going to be Vaisnava?" "No, no. I am not going to be Vaisnava. (laughter) I'm just appreciating. They sing very nicely." So you go like that. They will arrest you. You have got good experience. In London, they were arrested. You were in London. How many times you were arrested?
Gurudasa: Three.
Prabhupada: Three times. Our record is that our people were arrested thirty-six times. They... Now the police has become disgusted. They don't arrest. Yes. But this thing is going on in Australia, especially in Melbourne. I have got, received... So they asked me what to do? To do? Chant Hare Krsna, and you'll get good opportunity. When you are put into jail, you'll be free to chant Hare Krsna. So they are doing that. They are not eating. The minister in charge of the jail department, he was perturbed that "These people are not eating," and they were allowed to that "You can cook." But they refused, because the same kitchen, they're cooking, I mean to say, flesh. So refused. So then after few days, they were let loose. "All right. You go home." Yes. So this is going on.
So religious persecution is always there. Even the father, what to speak of others? The father, Hiranyakasipu, he chastised his son. So don't be afraid. Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu wanted. Yare dekha tare kaha krsna-upadesa [Cc. Madhya 7.128], Caitanya Mahaprabhu said. This is the mission of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Anyone you meet, any dumb rascal or gentleman, it doesn't matter, try to convince him about Krsna and let him inquire about Krsna. Then his life will be successful. Simply he begins to inquire, "What is Krsna?" Then his, means, he'll, path of liberation becomes open immediately.
Therefore Suta Gosvami says, yat krtah krsna-samprasno yenatma suprasidati. Actually, everyone is suffering. That is the law of material nature. Narottama dasa Thakura, he says, visaya-visanale, diba-nisi hiya jvale, juraite na koinu upay. Visaya. Those who are materialistic, that is called visaya. Visaya means eating, sleeping, sex intercourse, and defence. How I shall be protected, how shall I enjoy sex, how I shall eat more, I shall sleep more: this is called visaya. Visaya does not mean a very rich man, visayi. A poor man can be visayi, and a rich man can be renounced. Just like Ramananda Raya. He was governor, a grhastha, not even sannyasi. But Caitanya Mahaprabhu accepted him not as grhasthamore than a sannyasi. So visaya. Visayi means, does not mean that if one is very rich, then he's visayi. Visayi means one is only interested with these four things: eating, sleeping, mating, and defending. The whole world is going on like that. The modern civilization, they're simply interested how to eat, how to sleep... In your country, in America, you know very well. They're whole day working, how to construct a skyscraper building, how to own at least four cars.
So, so long we shall be attached to this visaya, simply, there cannot be any peace. There cannot be any peace. It is impossible. Therefore Narottama dasa Thakura says that visaya-visanale. Anala means fire. There are different types of fire also. Vi..., visanala, the burning sensation by drinking poison. Visaya-visanale, diba-nisi hiya jvale. "Whole day and night, twenty-four hours, my heart is burning." Visaya-visanale, juraite na koinu... "I did not try, how to get out of this blazing fire." Golokera prema-dhana, hari-nama-sankirtana, rati na janmila kene tay. "The only, only relief is this krsna-sankirtana, hari-nama-sankirtana." Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu ordered that,
So para-upakara. This human life is meant for doing, do, doing well to others, not exploiting others. That is animalism. "I kill this animal and eat." Tiger, very powerful. That is animalism. It has no value. Who is, who is asking for a tiger, although he's so powerful? There must be some upakara. So Caitanya Mahaprabhu's mission is not tigerism, but welfare activities. People are very much so-called philanthropists. They open hospitals, schools, and other things, but actually, they do not know what is the real disease of the human being. The real disease is that he has forgotten Krsna. That's all. Otherwise, there is no scarcity in the world.
As I have repeatedly told you, that... Especially I have seen practically in America, in Africa, in Australia, there are so much immense scope for producing food that ten times of the whole population of the world could be fed simply by utilizing the open land still available. So there is no question of scarcity. We have simply mismanaged. Due to lack of Krsna consciousness, we have mismanaged things. Krsna says,
If you want peace, then you try to understand these three principles of life. What is that? That Krsna is the supreme enjoyer. No one else. All servants. Ekale isvara krsna ara saba bhrtya [Cc. Adi 5.142]. Everyone is servant. Not that "Oh, everyone is equal to Krsna." That has become a cheap business. So many krsna-avataras and so many demigods, they are counted as good as Krsna. But Krsna says, mattah parataram nanyat kincid asti dhananjaya [Bg. 7.7], "There is no more superior authority than Me."
So therefore this krsna-samprasnah, if simply people become inquisitive, what is Krsna, and you simply try to answer themwe have got so many books nowthen the whole world will be peaceful. Yena atma suprasidati. Everyone is hankering after, "Where is peace? Where is peace?" You know, you European and American boys. You have come to Krsna consciousness because on account of your hankering, "Where is peace?" Is it not?
Devotee: Yes.
Prabhupada: What is that? So you were, you were not after money; because money and woman, you have seen, enough. There is no scarcity of money and woman in Europe and America. You can earn any, as much as you like, and you can enjoy. But still, why they are coming out confused? They want something. That I have several times repeated, that your only qualification is, you are advancing in Krsna consciousness because you are..., you have no other material desires. Anyabhilasita-sunyam [Brs. 1.1.11]. Nobody can allure you by material inducements: "Oh, here is money. Please come. Here is woman. Please come." That you have seen. You want something... Param drstva nivartate [Bg. 9.59]. So that's a very good qualification. Not only you who have come to me as my disciplesI am speaking of the whole Europeans and Americans.
So try to impress the whole Western world about krsna-samprasnah. Then they'll be happy. That is our mission. Yat krtah krsna-samprasno yenatma suprasidati. Munayah sadhu prsto 'ham [SB 1.2.5]. And Suta Gosvami welcomed the inquiry, "Oh, it is a nice inquiry, very nice inquiry. You are inquiring about Krsna. Oh, I have got this opportunity to answer." Anyone, any devotee, any servant of Krsna, as soon as he'll be questioned by somebody about Krsna, he'll be very, very happy: "Oh, here is an opportunity to speak about Krsna." Just like when Naradaji inquired from Brahma that "I know that you are everything, but at the same time, I see that you are meditating on somebody else. What is that?" So Nara... Brahma welcomed this inquiry, "My dear Narada, it is a very nice question. Now you have given me opportunity to speak about my master."
So great sages, they were congratulated by Suta Gosvami. All the sages in the Naimisaranya. Just like you are sitting here. This is the process of understanding krsna-prasna. Formerly there were no big halls. Just like in your country or all over the world, we are speaking in big, big halls. Formerly the method was... Just like here, in this very sacred place, (taps podium) all the Gosvamis used to study Bhagavatam under the leadership of Rupa Gosvami, Sanatana Gosvami. This is a very... This is the most important place in the world. So you have got this opportunity. So... (Hindi)
Indian: (Hindi)
Prabhupada: Accha. So at least for a few days, let us sit down here and under the protection of Srila Rupa Gosvami and Jiva Gosvami... This place is a very sanctified place. They used to assemble here. So we are not going to imitate them, but we want a place under the shelter of their lotus feet and discuss something of their contribution. Then our life may be one day successful.
Thank you very much [break]
Indian: (indistinct question)
Prabhupada: Three principles means to understand that Krsna is the supreme sole proprietor...
Indian: That is one
Prabhupada: Yes. And the second point is that because He's the supreme proprietor, He's the supreme enjoyer. And generally, one who is enjoyer, people do not like. Now, just like these capitalists and the Communists. Capitalists they have made their program for becoming enjoyer. And the capitalists, uh, Communists, they do not like it. Because they known,"These people are enjoyers. They cannot fulfill our desires." But Krsna is not like that. Although He's the supreme enjoyer, although He's the supreme proprietor, He is the best friend of everyonesuhrdam sarva-bhutanam [Bg. 5.29], suhrdam sarva-bhutanamHe's not friend of the rich class of men or the... Just like we be, these political leaders, they become friend of the country. But they are their own party men. "I am Congress Party. I am this party. So I, I love my this party." And even if he loves all human beings, he sends the animals to the slaughterhouse. So he cannot be friend of everyone. But Krsna is friend of everyone. You have seen Krsna's picture. He's embracing the calf also, and He's embracing Radharani. Not that He's simply attached to Radharani and the gopis. He's attached to everyone, every living entity. Sarva-yonisu kaunteya sambhavanti mur... [Bg. 14.4]. Therefore Krsna is the best friend of everyone.
So if you want friendship, you make friendship with Krsna. And because He's the proprietor, He'll protect you. These are the three points. Is that clear? Or you have got any question, you can question. Let it be clear. This is very intelligent question. So if we have to search out a friend, just search out Krsna. Make friendship with Krsna. Suhrdam sarva-bhutanam. He'll satisfy you in all respects. And He's not poor because bhoktaram yajna-tapasam sarva-loka-mahesvaram [Bg. 5.29]. He's... He's the proprietor of everything. What do you want? Everything will be supplied. He's so nice friend. So if you one understand these three points about Krsna, then our life becomes successful.
Devotee: Devotees should try... [break] ...a person to inquire about Krsna consciousness. On the other hand, it should be...
Prabhupada: No.
Devotee: ...uncompromising.
Prabhupada: No. Thing is that if you chant Hare Krsna mantra, this very process will make his heart clean. Krsna consciousness can be understood not in dirty condition of mind. Yesam anta-gatam papam. That is the definition given by Krsna. Krsna..., to understand Krsna is not so easy. Therefore Krsna says, yesam anta-gatam papam jananam punya-karmanam. Persons who are simply engaged in pious activities and completely all sinful reaction of his life has ceased, te dvandva-moha-nirmukta bhajante mam [Bg. 7.28], he's no, no more hesitating or checked. Ahaituky apratihata. He can serve Krsna, he can love Krsna. So this process of chanting Hare Krsna means making him cleansed of all sinful reactions. So he'll chant, he'll hear, and as he hears, his heart becomes clean. Then he will naturally inquire about Krsna. So you have to create that situation. You go on chanting Hare Krsna, and as people will hear, his heart will be cleansed. Naturally he will be inquiring about Krsna. They do not inquire about Krsna because the heart is... [break] ...hearing and chanting. Then he'll be cleansed.
Gurudasa: Prabhupada? We were talking about the importance of preaching. Does it make any difference whether it's in India or in the United States?
Prabhupada: No. Everyone is Krsna's. Where is your neck beads?
Gurudasa: Oh, here.
Prabhupada: Why?
Gurudasa: They came, they came untied, and so I tied them together just like this.
Prabhupada: You must have your neck, neck beads tight.
Gurudasa: Right around the neck?
Prabhupada: Yes. So what is your question? There is no question... Preaching..., preaching is... Preaching... Haridasa Thakura was inquired by Caitanya Mahaprabhu that, that "You are chanting Hare Krsna. Is it for everyone?" Haridasa Thakura replied: "Yes, it is for every... Even the trees, the birds, the beasts, they'll be benefited." So what is the question of human society? Here or there, it doesn't matter.
Gurudasa: We've developed...
Indian: If hearing is more important than chanting, then from whom a man should hear about Krsna? It is from anyone?
Prabhupada: What is that question?
Devotee: He says hearing, hearing is more important...
Prabhupada: Everything is more important, but hearing is especially given.
Indian: From whom one should hear about Krsna?
Prabhupada: From Krsna devotee, not a professional man.
Indian: How one can tell that he is a devotee of Krsna?
Prabhupada: That requires little intelligence. One has to learn. It cannot be... You have to see that by chanting Krsna, what he is doing? He is maintaining his body, or he is actually desirous of advancing in Krsna consciousness. That you have to know. Chant. (end)

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