The description of the living being is given in the sastra that the magnitude... Kesagra-sata-bhagasya satadha kalpi...: "One ten-thousandth part of the tip of the hair." And anantyaya kalpate: "There is limitless." As in practical experience also, we have this understanding that we require a leader. In the present moment there are so many parties, so many nations, so many societies, but there is a leader. That you cannot deny. (loud popping noises from outside, like firecrackers) Just like in our, this Krsna consciousness societyit is a societyI happen to be the leader. Similarly, there are other parties, political parties, and business parties. Everywhere there is a leader. You cannot avoid the leader. That is not possible. You may... I put this question to Professor Kotovsky, that "What is the difference between your philosophy and our philosophy? You are Leninist; you are following the leader Lenin, and we are following the leader Krsna. So where is the difference in philosophy?" You have to follow one leader. That you cannot avoid. Without leader you cannot be guided, you cannot form a party. Everywhere you go... Just like in our country we followed the leadership of Mahatma Gandhi, so we became a nation. So everywhere you will find: there must be a leader. Without leader you cannot become a community or a nation. Similarly, who is the supreme leader? That is God, or Krsna. Therefore He is described in the Vedas, nityo nityanam cetanas cetananamv. He is the leader.

So we cannot avoid sastra. So our, this Caitanya cult is strictly under the injunction of the sastra. So he has come to Caitanya Mahaprabhu and he is submitting himself.

A disciple, when he accepts guru... This is the example, Sanatana Gosvami. Tasmad prapadyeta... Tasmad gurum prapadyeta jijnasuh sreya uttamam [SB 11.3.21]. This is the injunction of the sastra. Who requires a guru? It is not a fashion, that one has to accept anyone as guru. No. A person requires a guru when he is inquisitive, tasmad gurum prapadyeta jijnasuh, when he is very much eager to understand the spiritual sreya uttamam. Uttamam. Ut means transcendental, and tama means darkness. This world is called darkness, ignorance. So one who wants to transcend this position of ignorance and wants to know the transcendental subject, means spiritual subject, brahma-jijnasa, he requires a guru, not any person, other person. If you are interested in things which is beyond this material world... That is necessary inquiry. So here is the enquiry, that Sanatana Gosvami says that "You have delivered me from the clutches of material attachment. I was minister, getting good salary, very nice post. So many aristocrats was offering me respect. So I think it was not necessary. My real necessary is to advance in spiritual consciousness. So kindly You have given me relief from this material concept of life. Now, according to Your desire, I have left everything. Now let me know what is my duty."

Tad viddhi. If you want to understand things which is beyond this material world... Tamasi ma jyotir gamah: "Don't remain within this darkness of material existence. Try to transcend, to go to the spiritual world, jyoti, where it is light." Here it is always darkness, and there there is always light. So everyone should be interested, especially in this human form of life, not to remain here like animals, cats and dogs, but to become brahma-bhutah. Aham brahmasmi. One must know. This is the duty of human life. So he says, sadhya-sadhana-tattva puchite na jani: "Now I am little interested how to become spiritually advanced, but I do not know how I shall put the question before You and what is the ultimate goal of life. These things I do not know. But I have got an inquiry." That is natural. Athato brahma jijnasa. This is the natural inquisitiveness of any conditioned life, especially in the human form of life. As it is inquired by Sanatana Gosvami, everyone should be elevated to that position to inquire, "What I am?" Krpa kari' saba tattva kaha ta' apani: "So I do not know how to place my question." This is submission. "So You can speak to me what is actually the goal of life, why I have forgotten my identification and how I shall be properly situated." This is Vedic civilization. Whole Vedic civilization means to understand oneself, to understand God and the relationship. And according to that relationship, one has to work. Then his life is successful. This is Vedic culture. Vedic culture does not mean to become a big dog. No. That is not Vedic culture. In the sastra it is said that sva-vid-varahostra-kharaih samstutah purusah pasuh [SB 2.3.19]. Purusah pasuh. In this material world, without any spiritual knowledge, if one is adored, it is just like the small animals in the jungle is praising the big animal, the lion. The lion is an animal and the small rabbit or other animals, they are also animals. So the rabbits are very much afraid of lion. That is a fact. And they worship the... This morning we were discussing one story, how a rabbit entangled one lion and saved his life. So here in this material world, similarly, the small animal may be afraid of the big animal, but the big animal or small animal, they are animals. They are animals. Therefore Bhagavata says the small animal may eulogize the big animal. That does not mean the big animal is of any importance. He is animal, that's all. Similarly, our position is that we do not go... We may not go to the big animal, but we may go to like Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Then we will be benefited. Caitanya Mahaprabhu, if we approach Caitanya Mahaprabhu... That is caitanya, living, supreme living being.

Caitanya Mahaprabhu answered that Sanatana Gosvami... But he is actually very learned. If he is not learned, then how he can give up his post as the minister, finance minister? He is actually learned because he was inquisitive that "I must know the goal of my life, I must make my life successful, and therefore I must go to Caitanya Mahaprabhu." So Caitanya Mahaprabhu appreciated his approach, that "You have come to Me for better enlightenment. That means you are not ordinary person. You are not ordinary conditioned soul. Who can sacrifice such big post and the honor and come to a sannyasi and submit to Me?" Therefore He says, prabhu kahekrsna-krpa purna haya: "God's mercy is fully there in You." Saba tattva jana: "You have understood all the truths of life." Saba tattva jana tomara nahi tapa-traya. And he was inquiring that "Why I am forced to accept all kinds of miserable condition of life?" But, "For You there is no such thing."

This is wanted. Every one of us should become brahma-bhutah, not to remain jiva-bhutah. That is ignorance. One must come to the platform of brahma-bhutah. Then prasannatma. He has no three kinds of material conditional life. He has no struggle for existence. Prasannatma. He is always jolly because he knows that "I am not this body. I am soul," at least theoretically, prasannatma. That is wanted.