740503MW.BOM

740503MW.BOM
Morning Walk
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May 3, 1974, Bombay
740503MW-BOMBAY [05:08 Minutes]
That he came to understand what is the value of Krsna
 
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Prabhupada: The inhabitants there, they can go from one planet to another without an aeroplane. That is Siddhaloka. Hmm. Go on.
Dr. Patel: The highest is Satyaloka, no? Janaloka and Satyaloka.
Prabhupada: Brahmaloka.
Dr. Patel: Brahmaloka, Janaloka and Satyaloka.
Prabhupada: No. Highest Brahmaloka, where Lord Brahma lives.
Yadubara: [reading] "There was beating of drums, and being inspired by godly feelings, the residents of Gandharvaloka began to play on their tamburas to please the Lord. Once when He was..." [break]
Prabhupada: ...what is God. Such innocent. You see? They thought, "Might be some demigod." That's all.
Yadubara: " 'O Nanda Maharaja, we are now in great doubt. Your son Krsna must be one of the demigods.' " [break]
Prabhupada: ...the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
Yadubara: " 'And He saved all honest men from the hands of the dishonest.' " [break]
Prabhupada: ...Vrndavana inhabitants, they are always anxious how to save the cows. Always. They are connected with cows.
Yadubara: "Thus ends the Bhaktivedanta purport of the Twenty-sixth Chapter of Krsna, Wonderful Krsna." [break]
Prabhupada: ...only Indra, even an ordinary person, he thinks he is all in all.
Dr. Patel: When he does work, he says, aham karta, aham karta, like that.
Prabhupada: Ahaṅkara-vimudhatma kartaham iti manyate [Bg 3.27]. They think like that, the mudhas. Ahaṅkara-vimudhatma. Vimudha. Not only mudha; vimudha.
Dr. Patel: Visesa-mudha.
Prabhupada: Visesa. But... You are right. "Specifically mudha." [break]
Dr. Patel: Janma karma ca me divyam [Bg 4.9].
Prabhupada: No. Yam brahma varunendra-rudra-marutah stunvanti divyaih stavair vedaih saṅga-pada-krama... [SB 12.13.1].
Dr. Patel: Dhyanavasthita-tad-gatena manasa... [break]
Prabhupada: ...asura also, they cannot understand, and these so-called scholars, they are interpreting Krsna. Go on. [break] Vimudha. Mayayapahrta-jnanah [Bg 7.15].
Dr. Patel: All the Vaisnava books, all... [break]
Prabhupada: Vaisnava acarya...
Dr. Patel: No, Vaisnavas, all quotes comes from Vaisnavas. They all believe in the form.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Dr. Patel: Then I was not able to grasp it, though I am born Vaisnava from my right birth. [break]
Yadubara: Lord Indra is saying that Krsna is so merciful that without punishing the offenses of the demons, that He devises means so that their false prestige is subdued.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Yadubara: How is that? How does He devise means without punishment?
Prabhupada: This is the device, that He agitated Indra, and he came down and surrendered unto Him. This is the device. Not directly punishing. That he came to understand what is the value of Krsna.
Yadubara: " 'My dear Lord, You are the supreme father, supreme spiritual master and supreme king.' " [break]
Prabhupada: ...accepted by Indra is all described in the Bhagavad-gita. [break]
Yadubara: " 'You are the root of all creation.' " [break]
Prabhupada: ...composed after Mahabharata.
Dr. Patel: Mahabharata. Everybody says.
Yadubara: " 'Due to my gross ignorance, I created great disturbance in Vrndavana by sending torrents of rain and heavy hailstorms.' " [break]
Prabhupada: ...first of all, being observed by father of Krsna. It is very important.
[break] ...necessity of tapasya, if one worships Krsna? Aradhito yadi haris tapasa tatah kim [Narada Pancaratra]. And after austerities, if he does not know Krsna, then what is the value of his tapasya?
[break] ...imitating here, that is lust.
Dr. Patel: Anything with a view on the sex is lust.
Prabhupada: Yes. That is lust. Here everything is lust. Center is lust. Yan maithunadi-grhamedhi-sukham hi tuccham [SB 7.9.45]. The central point is sex.
Dr. Patel: That is what... What this...? [break]
Prabhupada: ...philosophy.
Dr. Patel: Sigmund Freud.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Dr. Patel: Sigmund Freud. [end]

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