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771108R1.VRN
771108R1-Vrindavan [45:38 Minutes]
You don't strain for collecting. Then spiritual progress will be hampered
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Prabhupada: Don't strain for collecting. Then spiritual progress will be hampered.
Jayapataka: It seems that the temple could be completed within seven years without straining.
Prabhupada: That is nice.
Jayapataka: Then we can have it completed by the five-hundredth-year anniversary of Lord Caitanya...
Prabhupada: Yes.
Jayapataka: ...which is in eight years.
Prabhupada: Do it. That is...
Jayapataka: And the architect at Mayapur, he said that the temple that's inside the big temple, that could be opened up to the public within three years by having just some type of false ceiling, and then the upper stories, work can go on. That means within three years people could start visiting the temple and using it, which will also be a big inspiration to the public. And then the upstairs and complete outside would be completed.
Prabhupada: Do like that. That is very good idea. And different name, you can purchase.
Prabhupada: Hmm.
Jayapataka: Each of the..., like gosala, handloom, these can be separately formed into societies, which would be easier for bookkeeping and management anyway, and each of those societies can purchase the land on which their handloom or gosala, whatever is, they can purchase that land in that name.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Jayapataka: Mr. Chowdury tried, but now he's been transferred from the development commissioner. Now he's the transport commissioner. So now all he can do is give us a free... He gives us, tax free, vehicles. But he can't give us the land anymore.
Prabhupada: Tax free?
Jayapataka: Our vehicles in Bengal, we don't pay any road tax. He's the transport commissioner, but now he's no longer development commissioner. And if the government gives us some land on acquisition, we'll take. But I don't think they'll give a big amount, neither we should wait for that.
Jayapataka: When they see we're doing something, automatically they want to also help.
Jayapataka: Because so many tourists are coming. The local M.L.A., he told me now there's thousands and thousands people coming. This last weekend there was... At any time you could see hundreds of people walking on the road to take darsana. So now the local man, he wants to build some guesthouse on his own, the government, where they're going to serve meat and other things. So that's why our temple, we want to... We're getting our guesthouse all straightened up. If we have a restaurant, then we'll be able to take all the tourist traffic.
Jayapataka: That was supposed to be done this year, but then Bombay took all the funds. Prabhupada sanctioned it already last year. It was a good idea. But Mayapur has become very popular. This is all due to your effort, Srila Prabhupada. Simply due to your efforts Mayapur and Navadvipa is becoming so much more famous and popular. We want to make the Mayapur temple so beautiful and make the city so nice that not only the Queen of England and the President of United States, but even the Russian and Chinese leaders, they'll all have to come to see this. They can't avoid. Will that please Bhaktivinoda Thakura?
Prabhupada: Hmm?
Jayapataka: If all the leaders, all these presidents and kings would come and visit the temple at Mayapur, that would please Bhaktivinoda Thakura?
Prabhupada: Oh, yes.
Jayapataka: This is the secret you are showing, working towards satisfying the desires of the previous acaryas.
Jayapataka: You've given the secret for success.
Prabhupada: If possible, make some improvement in Bhaktivinoda Thakura's birthplace.
Jayapataka: I was just thinking about that, Srila Prabhupada.
Prabhupada: At least repair it nicely, without any claim of our...
Jayapataka: From the Bhaktivedanta Charity Trust.
Prabhupada: Hmm.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Jayapataka: Amongst the Vaisnavas.
Devotee: [whispers] Bhaktivinoda Thakura's birthplace.
Jayapataka: Sometime in the future we can, if they are ever agreeable, if we can take the seva of that birthplace, then we should do so.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Jayapataka: In Malda district at Ramakeli, where Lord Caitanya first met with Rupa and Sanatana, there is a temple of Radha-Krsna that Lord..., that Rupa and Sanatana Gosvami used to worship those Deities. Bhaktisiddhanta Thakura Prabhupada has put a lotus feet of Mahaprabhu there. So we have gone there on two occasions for preaching, and they..., some local people came and said they would like us to take some..., to either take over management or somehow be connected with that, because they felt that it required preaching there. They're very favorable at that place.
Prabhupada: So take it.
Prabhupada: Hmm.
Prabhupada: No. No, in Bengal.
Prabhupada: That is another. That is Orissa.
Jayapataka: Without your intervention we would have no hope.
Prabhupada: Where is Jayapataka's mother?
Jayapataka: She's in California. Citsukhananda Prabhu said that... [to Citsukhananda:] You said you saw her in Los Angeles? She is coming to the temple? My mother?
Citsukhananda: Yes.
Jayapataka: What is she doing?
Citsukhananda: She's coming now. There's another lady, Mrs. Forkash, and she has been working with Mrs. Forkash, and she's been attending the programs and also organizing for good publicity for the movement all over America. And she's been attending any major functions that we do. Like we had a major function with all the important people of Los Angeles-movie stars, directors, politicians-and so she also assisted, and she was preaching, speaking about Krsna consciousness.
Citsukhananda: Yes, very much.
Citsukhananda: Parents for Krsna, yes. She assists in that Parents for Krsna group.
Tamala Krsna: That is your magic touch, Srila Prabhupada. Anyone who contacts you becomes a devotee. You're just like the associates of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Whoever saw them...
Prabhupada: She's already a good lady. Otherwise how she can have such a nice son? [laughter]
Citsukhananda: I asked her if she had met you, Prabhupada. I asked Jayapataka's mother if she had met you, and she said, "Yes..."
Prabhupada: A fortunate lady. All your mothers, they are all fortunate.
Prabhupada: Tenants?
Prabhupada: Oh.
Prabhupada: Which garden?
Prabhupada: Oh.
Jayapataka: One day you'll be celebrated for saving the whole world, Srila Prabhupada.
Jayapataka: Even this kaviraja, he said that he has seven patients in Calcutta who are about to die, but he said they're all materialists, so if they live or die it doesn't matter much. So he said, "If Prabhupada stays on the planet, then so many hundreds, thousands, countless living entities will get devotional service, get liberation, get elevated." That's why he's dropped those patients to come here. You are the most important. You are the pure devotee.
Tamala Krsna: It's amazing to think, Srila Prabhupada, that ten years ago you were living in Radha-Damodara temple and just conceiving all of this. Now Krsna has arranged everything. You were sitting alone, having to draw your own water, doing your own typing. Everything you had to do yourself. And now, gradually, the whole world is coming to assist you in serving Krsna. It is most wonderful.
Jayapataka: But still we are not able to serve properly. You have to show us continuously. We are so unfortunate, we are not able to serve you properly.
Devotee (1): Everyone is knowing of your glories, Srila Prabhupada. I was coming in a truck from the airport in San Francisco, and one policeman pulled me over, and he ran an investigation and then he came back and said, "I know this isn't right, but do you have any books by Prabhupada?" So he pulled me over just to get one of your books. And later on I saw him, and he and his friend... He was a sergeant, and they were reading your book at a liquor store.
Jayapataka: Haribol!
Devotee (1): He said that he used to go through the airports all the time and get your books, but he hadn't been through the airport in so long, he was feeling the separation. So he had to pull us over, because he saw we were devotees, so that he could ask for some of your books.
Citsukhananda: In Los Angeles, at the Spiritual Sky Incense company, there are so many karmi workers also assisting in Spiritual Sky business. So actually, they were just coming to work every day without any change of heart. But we started... The receptionist started giving Perfect Questions, Perfect Answers to the people who work there. And this one man who's a theologian who works there in the bookkeeping department read your book, and he said, "This man speaks perfectly. He has no fault. Everything he says is completely right, perfect." So now they're coming to the temple, now, because they've read your book. Otherwise they didn't want to associate. But now they read this book, Perfect Questions, Perfect Answers, and they're coming to the temple. They take prasadam. They've become very submissive, all the workers.
Jayapataka: Now that your books are being printed in Hindi, in Calcutta, one of our Life Members, Mr. Tulsan, he got your Hindi Bhagavatam and Caitanya-caritamrta, and he's begun reading, and now he said his whole life is transformed. He said that never he found anywhere that the knowledge was presented so simply and so clearly. All the panditas he could never understand. So now he's become so enthusiastic he's purchasing four rooms in Mayapur-two for himself, and he's making two relatives purchase. And every month he comes out with his family, with the whole family. "Instead of going to other recreation," he said, "we'll go to the temple." And he brings big basket of fruit, and he comes out, and they stay for the weekend and they all attend maṅgala-arati.
Prabhupada: Four rooms, which side? New?
Jayapataka: He's going to purchase, I think, two rooms in the old building, and then maybe two rooms in the new building he'll have his friends purchase.
Jayapataka: Yes.
Jayapataka: When one of the Communist papers was writing a critical report about us, then they said that "They even have a building that's longer than the Writers Building. How they have done this, shamed our state building?" [laughter]
Prabhupada: They are already silent. [laughter] Jaya.
Citsukhananda: Before I came to India, Prabhupada, I was... One Saturday night in Los Angeles about three weeks ago we had a big maha-saṅkirtana, big chanting party, because President Carter was coming to Los Angeles. So we got there about thirty minutes before he was coming, and we went with about 125 devotees from New Dvaraka. We went chanting through the street right in front of his hotel room. So he came in from the back way, but it was known to us that he heard the chanting, and all the main people from the government saw this chanting of Hare Krsna. We were chanting very nicely, dancing in the street. And everyone was protesting something different, but we were just happy and joyful, and everyone could see that this is positive, this is best thing. Everyone is griping about something, but we are all happy; we have no complaints. So we think that President Carter heard this kirtana party.
Jayapataka: We were noticing now the headline in America in the Newsweek or some magazine was that America is going right. Now people are protesting against abortion. They are demanding that leaders be moralistic. It is a whole trend now. And so we see that just because Your Divine Grace has begun book distribution and preaching in the West, in America, that now the people, they're becoming more... Qualities of goodness are automatically coming about just because of your preaching.
Devotee (1): At one big fair, Prabhupada, we were distributing your books, and after the fair was over so many people were coming up. So we surrounded the truck with stacks of books and passing them out. And pretty soon after all the books were gone the people started rocking the truck. They were surrounding it, asking for one of your books. They were demanding that they have one of your books.
Jayapataka: The kaviraja has come.
Prabhupada: [Transl. Obeisances.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. The urine I am passing, I am not passing all at a time.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Yes.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Little is there.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. No. To pass out...]
Kaviraja: [Transl. I just brought a bottle from Calcutta. You mix that ark with this ark and give him. He is feeling some problem in passing urine.]
Kaviraja: [Transl. You give him in the morning 6 o'clock or say 7 o'clock. That is the right time for taking medicine. So Maharaja, after eating that yesterday do you feel some apetite today? Try to bring out your apetite little little and end your pastime of aversion to food. If you like raisins, you can take raisins. You know small raisins? if you want you can take those. You tell me, whatever you feel like taking, whatever is your internal desire you can take it. You need to increase your strength.
Prabhupada: [Transl. I have desire, but when they bring before my mouth.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Hann]
Prabhupada: [Transl. No.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Why don't you explain?]
Kaviraja: [Transl. No, I am just an instrument. Who am I? The more you remain joyful, the more strength you will have. Do you sometimes feel extra sleepy? Yes?]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Yes.]
Kaviraja: [Transl. From Jatamamsi one gets six hours sound sleep. That you don't need now. He is getting good sleep. He had the heaviness in the stomach, but now it is completely gone, it is totally clear. Now you request him to start eating little by little. Can't he take Daliya [cracked wheat preparation] or rice little bit?]
Prabhupada: [Transl. I can't eat any solid food.]
Kaviraja: [Transl. Like Barley powder and mix it with water. You know khichri? You make it like khichri and give him little by little. That I will explain to you how to do. You prepare like that and give it to him little by little. His bones, asthi hy siddha bhisika asthita. Now his body has only bones left. So little by little we have to help increase his blood. Once blood is increased gradually flesh, bones, fat, marrow, semen increase in the body. Slowly like this he will get some energy. Without some energy in the body he cannot sit down. He will feel weak to sit up. Has Bhagatji come today? What time will he come?]
Kaviraja: [Transl. From Medicine No. 2, take two spoon full of punarnava root juice and two spoon full of Makoi. It is for swelling and the trouble for passing urine.]
Kaviraja: [Transl. This is plenty. Tell him to save some for later. You take little now and smash the roots and abstract two spoons of juice.]
Kaviraja: [Transl. Mix it with something and give him. You have decoction no? Mix with decoction and give him.]
[Prabhupada drinks something and coughs]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Enough. Hmm.]
Devotee: Which one?
[Srila Prabhupada coughs]
Bhavananda: Last night?
Bhavananda: It's in there.
Bhavananda: Consistency?
Bhavananda: He said it's coming in installments.
Jagadisa: Some slight pain.
Kaviraja: [Transl. This much roots you mix with decoction in the morning. Every morning you use decoction no? I told Bhagatji to send green roots, nice quality. In the morning you put more roots in the decoction.]
Jagadisa: What is he saying?
Prabhupada: [Transl. Wipe my eyes.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Wipe my eyes. Water is coming out.]
Prabhupada: Immediately?
Prabhupada: Soft.
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