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770727R1.VRN
770727R1-Vrindavan [45:45 Minutes]
Unless one is very strong in body, old age means suffering
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Prabhupada: So everything all right?
Yasomatinandana: Yes.
Prabhupada: So you are...
Yasomatinandana: How are you feeling?
Prabhupada: Not very good. Old man's disease. Bhaktivinoda Thakura said, vrddha kala aola saba sukha bhagala:[?] "When a man becomes old, all bodily comforts..." So it is not very good to live like an old man. It is troublesome. Body will be weakened, and all kinds of disease will be strong. Unless one is very strong in body, old age means suffering. So whatever Krsna-Balarama desire. Now it is up to you to maintain the Society very nicely. There is framework. There is idea. There is facility of everything. If you like, you can maintain work.
Yasomatinandana: They're having a very nice farm in Ahmedabad.
Prabhupada: That's nice.
Yasomatinandana: One hundred acres. It's all very nice level land, and we have planted crops in 150 bighas. That is about...
Prabhupada: So you give some... We are getting many other land. If your becomes ideal, you can teach them. People are coming for chanting?
Yasomatinandana: Yes. One grhastha is there, and the first week we went there, every night three hundred people were coming.
Prabhupada: That's it.
Yasomatinandana: And that was in the middle of the desert. Not desert; in the middle of like jungle, you know.
Prabhupada: That I want.
Yasomatinandana: It's fifteen minutes away from the...
Prabhupada: We don't want any profit. We don't want any profit. You produce, you eat, you chant. Organize. Don't go outside.
Yasomatinandana: Don't go to the cities.
Prabhupada: No. Be man of character. No illicit sex, no intoxication. Vaisnava. Eat sufficiently, dress sufficiently. Live very comfortably. Whatever profit is there, it should be invested again for books. That's... Because we are investing money, our land... Therefore we are not profited. Beneficiary, you. It is a cooperative society. You produce your needs, live comfortably, chant Hare Krsna. Our only interest is that you are taking interest in Krsna consciousness, working. Otherwise we don't want to exploit you. That is not... If there is no sufficient, you can... We help you manage it. You manage your own affair. We give you direction. Live happily, chant. This should be... Will not they agree?
Yasomatinandana: Yes, they will very much agree.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Yasomatinandana: They already like our program of chanting and dancing.
Prabhupada: That's all.
Yasomatinandana: Very much they love it. People come from distant villages in groups.
Prabhupada: Yes. Make them... In Gujarat it is very good. So you show an example, that other camp will...
Yasomatinandana: This year we are taking some cash crops just to develop the farm.
Prabhupada: That's all right.
Yasomatinandana: But then, once we have developed, then we can have rice and wheat and then distribute free prasada to everyone. Because every inch of the land is cultivatable.
Prabhupada: I have given so much for... Try to repay.
Yasomatinandana: Well, we are doing it as...
Prabhupada: Gradually.
Yasomatinandana: Gradually.
Prabhupada: Gradually.
Yasomatinandana: We are doing it, and we are hiring it. Because if we just give them away, they will spoil it.
Prabhupada: No.
Yasomatinandana: What we'll do is we'll grow the food and then distribute the food. And if someone is ready to come and live on the farm, then we'll give him the facility. Because Bhogilal's farm is just next door, and he's getting fifty mounds of rice in every bigha. Fifty mounds.
Prabhupada: Why not our farm?
Yasomatinandana: Just now this is the first year, and it has not been used for three, four... It is not that fertile. It is not too much fertile. For rice you have to prepare the ground. It is not... Some part of it is there. Once we develop, then we can develop it for rice. That area is doing maximum rice. Bhogilal's men grows fifteen lakhs' worth of crops every year. He has thousand acres, and most of it is even unfertile. Only in certain part of it, fifteen lakhs.
Prabhupada: So why not our farm?
Yasomatinandana: We cannot get that much. But we can easily go up to two lakhs.
Yasomatinandana: Per year. This is at least.
Tamala Krsna: And he donated it free. You said that... Yasomatinandana said Bhogilal will be coming here for Janmastami to be with you.
Yasomatinandana: We invited him for Janmastami. So he said, "If you come, I'll go." He wants me to accompany him.
Prabhupada: He's godly man. And he's religious, honest, ideal man.
Prabhupada: I talk with him as my brother.
Yasomatinandana: Only one thing is that the government has this Agricultural Land Ceiling Act, which prohibits any...
Prabhupada: Our Society...
Yasomatinandana: No, even the societies are not exempt. Only one gosala trust is exempt. So they're registering it as a gosala trust, but there are some limitations because it had to be registered before. So we are now moving in that way at least, to show that...
Yasomatinandana: Yes. So there is one member of Parliament in Gujarat who belongs to the party of the Home Minister. He was the chairman of party Lok Dal. It was Charan Singh's party. And he... I met him, and I explained to him that we wanted some citizenship for some devotees or something like that, and he mentioned it to Charan Singh when he came back from Delhi. And Charan Singh said that if it was... There's discussion, then definitely... I mean if there's no legal hitch, he will certainly help. Then I said but they want to come and meet you also. So he said, "Yes, you can bring them." So tomorrow... I came this week, and tomorrow the member says that we can meet him. Now I just heard that there was some news yesterday? So that might... We will have to make two applications, one to clear up that incident...
Yasomatinandana: Yes, if I bring him he'll come.
Prabhupada: Not bad.
Yasomatinandana: But he might not come immediately.
Prabhupada: No, no. Don't go to him. This Mayapur incident is a handling of the Communists.
Yasomatinandana: Now there is Communist government there.
Prabhupada: Please try to... Just try to understand. There is a story that a thief entered in a room, and the proprietor, he was in the other room. As soon as there was some sound, he inquired, "Who is there in that room?" The man said, "No, no, I am not stealing." You see? That means he is thief. So this Jyoti Basu raised the question, "How they are getting visa?" In the Parliament also they are raising the same question. That means it is Communist manipulation, the Mayapur affair. They put forward some Muhammadans because there are many Muhammadan Communist also. They wanted to give a communal color. But the whole thing is Communist plan. And their aim is to wipe out any religious movement. That is their open declaration in other Communist...
Prabhupada: Nice.
Yasomatinandana: That will be very nice.
Prabhupada: Why not? Let him.
Yasomatinandana: Because he can say he has five companies; [indistinct], now he has given his life to Prabhupada.
Prabhupada: But I am sure this Mayapur incident is a Communist plan. That is...
Yasomatinandana: Yes, that is sure.
Prabhupada: There is no doubt.
Prabhupada: Has he brought some books?
Yasomatinandana: I think he has brought First Canto, Part Two, Hindi.
Prabhupada: He is very slow, printing.
Prabhupada: So whatever it may be, it is Communist plan.
Abhirama: But he is expected to make such statements. He is always making so many statements, and no one listens, again and again and again. It is his style. They expect him to...
Prabhupada: So they are their party men.
Prabhupada: Yes. The party should take very serious investigation, and if possible, suspend government for the time being.
Prabhupada: So that will be nice step.
Abhirama: So we should challenge these Communists.
Prabhupada: What you'll challenge? They will challenge. Don't talk of...
[indistinct background comments by devotees]
Prabhupada: They say also, "Close this temple."
Tamala Krsna: Yeah. One of the things they raised was they should close this... "This is said to be a temple of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, but actually it is the base of the CIA, American CIA in India, and now it should be closed." And in one newspaper we read that they're proposing that if it's closed, they can use it as a hospital and school. Prabhupada said actually this is their intention, to drive us away and to take the buildings and use it as hospital and school. So they want to kill religion in Bengal. The Janata party is for religion. At least they say so.
Yasomatinandana: This Prabhudas Patwaria is just now in Delhi. I can go today. He already told me that he will take me to the Prime Minister, because he has very good relation with Prime Minister. And he was reading your books in the jail. Prabhudas Patwaria was framed by Indira Gandhi in the dynamite case of George Fernandes. And the George Fernandes was also in same room with him, and he was also reading books.
Yasomatinandana: George Fernandes is Minister of Railway. And he was with Prabhudas. Prabhudas Patwaria can be a great help now. He's coming here on 30th.
Yasomatinandana: Yes. I'll come with him.
Prabhupada: [laughs] So I thought that "Unless he brings some book, he won't come." Because every time I criticize him, "Where is the book? Where is the book?"
Prabhupada: Yes. Very nice. So you are being recognized. [indistinct comments by devotees] You are doing good, as he's doing good.
Yasomatinandana: I have got four or five books in Gujarati ready for printing.
Prabhupada: Why not print them?
Prabhupada: Print.
Prabhupada: Yes. Oh, yes. Use government paper.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Prabhupada: Yes, the ladies can read at home.
Prabhupada: This I want. Books are selling.
Prabhupada: All right. Whatever manuscript you have ready, print.
Prabhupada: I want to see, whatever manuscript is ready, they should be printed.
Gopala Krsna: Also, Srila Prabhupada, we've come out with Diwali cards this year. These are going to be very, very big. Inside is a message. We are selling hundreds of these. On this BBT will make a very big profit, plus the temples will make a profit. There's a message inside. We are selling these exclusively to our Life Members. And on the back is the maha-mantra. Big orders. [indistinct aside to devotees] I brought you a package with me. This is another sample.
Yasomatinandana: This is going to be very profitable business.
Yasomatinandana: We'll sell it for two rupees to our men.
Yasomatinandana: We'll sell for two rupees.
Prabhupada: Thank you very much.
Prabhupada: Such and such book.
Prabhupada: Yasomatinandana will order that set. You can sell.
Prabhupada: The printing is first class.
Prabhupada: I think the Diwali greeting card dealers also will accept.
Gopala Krsna: Yes, but we are keeping it... Srila Prabhupada, I studied the whole market. It is to our advantage to restrict the sale, because when we deal with dealers or distributors-I talked to them-we have to sell them at half the price and allow them to keep their profit. But we want to make this exclusive for Life Members. Otherwise, if anyone can buy it in a market, then it's not such a great prestige.
Prabhupada: No, no, no. You keep.
Gopala Krsna: So this we are showing, as if we are doing the Life Members a favor. Just see, Srila Prabhupada. These are just some advanced samples that are printed just to get orders. And plus, anyone who orders more than hundred cards, we will print their name and message inside. And plus, there's a maha-mantra on the back of every... Hundred cards is the minimum order.
Prabhupada: So both consulting, you can see.
Yasomatinandana: Oh, yes, I can sell. I think this will be very successful.
Prabhupada: So far the printing is concerned, there is no question. First class. Very nice.
Prabhupada: Whatever it costs, I don't mind. You make some profit. That's all.
Prabhupada: So you have sent the export books?
Gopala Krsna: They got it, and I have a bill of lading. That was a completely bogus letter. I have all the evidence with me. Yes, I've got a bill of lading to show you. Fiji, Mauritius, they've all gone. Plus, I also wrote up a small catalog. This is a very cheap catalog, not like the American. A lot of people write to BBT for brochure or catalog. So this is costing us only about twenty-five paisa but advertises all your books.
Prabhupada: Hindi?
Gopala Krsna: Yes. It advertises all your books. Plus, Srila Prabhupada, I had signed a contract with the biggest mail-order house in India, called Mail Order Sales. And this week their full-page advertisement on the Bhagavad-gita is reaching 25,000 households. Their ad wasn't ready, but they are sending it to me in few days. It's a very beautiful ad. They have a monthly newspaper called Mail Order News, and that they've given a whole page. But they pay for it. We give them a straight commission on sales. Just like in America you have Book of the Month Club and selling books by mail. This is very big. Plus we are now doing the Bhaktivedanta Encyclopedia of Vedic Knowledge. This will also... We are preparing a brochure just like this. This is a Brittanica Encyclopedia advertisement. So we're going to have your nineteen or twenty Bhagavatams here. The artists are working on it, in a small [indistinct], and this is going to be sent to about thirty thousand households. These are just for households, not libraries or anyone, just as selling to businessmen and executives.
Prabhupada: Everything you do, it is... Now, utilize. So one book has come only.
Prabhupada: Translator? Anyway, it is the [indistinct].
Yasomatinandana: [reads Sanskrit verse, Hindi synonyms, translation and purport]
Prabhupada: Very nice.
Prabhupada: Next you make Gujarati.
Prabhupada: Gujarati.
Prabhupada: So why not print?
Yasomatinandana: Just we have to... The titles are being printed in Bombay. Inside I am already [indistinct].
Prabhupada: That's all right. [indistinct] And Bombay is not far away.
Prabhupada: Gujarati books will sell very nice all over the world.
Prabhupada: All over the world. Gujarati people are all over the world.
Prabhupada: Everywhere they have made colonies.
Prabhupada: So I am getting very good news, book distribution, from Europe and America.
Prabhupada: And Communist country wonderfully.
Prabhupada: Caitanya-caritamrta. They have sold at least thirty to forty lakhs' worth of Caitanya-caritamrta.
Prabhupada: That is Bombay. Three days, four days raining continually, that is not unusual in Bombay.
Prabhupada: Just see.
Prabhupada: So, give first attention to the question, printing.
Prabhupada: Other things you can do, but you... This your only main business. Now do it very pleasingly so that you can... So whatever you have done, it is very pleasing.
Gopala Krsna: Also we are now going to have big distributors who are ready to take on our books, and we're going to have them distribute our Hindi, Gujarati books all over India. Plus, you know, those railway stands? What we're going to do, we're going to come out with a plastic, small bag type, with six pockets in it, and it's going to say, "Bhaktivedanta Yoga Library," "Bhaktivedanta Library of Yoga Books." And then we're going to have Beyond Birth and Death, Perfection of Yoga, in Hindi, and in Gujarati areas, Gujarati books. We'll have a complete selection of yoga books. Because I've been speaking to many distributors, and yoga books are very popular in India. So I was also thinking, I have this book all ready, The Scientific Basis of Krsna Consciousness. I wanted to change the name to The Scientific Basis of Bhakti-yoga in Hindi. Just by replacing "Krsna Consciousness" with "Bhakti-yoga," the appeal will broaden, because people are buying books just...
Prabhupada: You can.
Prabhupada: Oh, yes.
Prabhupada: You consult among you. So I want to see simply distribution of books in any language. That I want.
Prabhupada: Gujarati.
Prabhupada: Gujarati you can send anywhere. It will be...
Prabhupada: Any outside, in outside India, any country, Gujaratis are there-Africa, Europe, America. Africa is Gujarati country.
Prabhupada: England. England also. All the guests we receive from, Patels.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Prabhupada: Eighty percent, they're Gujarati.
Yasomatinandana: One boy just came from Toronto, and he said that now they have a team of Indian people. They get on the phone. They have one festival every month. And these five or six Indian people call up all the Indian people, and one thousand people gather every festival. And it is just one little town. So Life Members, you can at least take one thousand...
Prabhupada: They have got life now. The Indians, on account of this movement, they have got life. They were forlorn, completely cut off from Indian culture. Now they have got it.
Prabhupada: Yes, he has made this.
Yasomatinandana: Eight miles.
Prabhupada: It is nothing.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Prabhupada: No, city should be... Make there.
Prabhupada: Oh, yes. There is no need of... City there are many temples. If there is a good temple fifteen miles, that is...
Prabhupada: Yes.
Prabhupada: Yes. They will pay for that.
Yasomatinandana: Two, three members already told me.
Prabhupada: Three, four rooms, one cottage. They will come and live comfortably.
Prabhupada: So Krsna has given this facility.
Prabhupada: It is not at all. It is within city. Eight miles is within.
Yasomatinandana: City bus goes...
Prabhupada: If you go to see some friend, we have to go eight miles.
Prabhupada: This farm...
Prabhupada: Very good.
Prabhupada: Oh, yes. Prthivite ache yata nagaradi grama . There is no distinction that you have to make in the city. Nagaradi grama. That is Caitanya Mahaprabhu's...
Yasomatinandana: And it is our experience that in the city hardly fifteen, twenty people come. But in the village, hundred fifty, two hundred come, even though the temple is...
Prabhupada: You can make an ideal place. Very good.
Gopala Krsna: Yes. It will be very good temple. And actually the farm is worth five or six lakhs' rupees. All surroundings all good. And another good thing I found was in Hyderabad the neighboring villagers were against us when we went there, but here they're all favorable. They all say "Hare Krsna." When you walk, they greet you enthusiastically.
Prabhupada: Gujarati people are Vaisnava by nature.
Yasomatinandana: One boy that is there, they invite him for prasada, and then they fan him. They invite him for prasada, they give him, they fan him, and then they give five rupees [indistinct].
Prabhupada: Do it nicely. All facilities will come.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Prabhupada: Weekly visitors. Two-rooms cottage.
Prabhupada: And it will cost not more than fifteen thousand, two-room cottage.
Yasomatinandana: Now we will organize. Just now we had to rush everything.
Prabhupada: No. No, no. Don't make it a rush.
Yasomatinandana: Because we had no facilities there. Now there's one couple...
Prabhupada: No, you can prepare bricks. By brick. Make in such a way that we get local supplies.
Prabhupada: Bricks and tiles. Local potter can make that round tile. Make a brick that... And you have got bamboo. Take local supply as far as possible.
Yasomatinandana: [indistinct]
Prabhupada: Government will help you.
Prabhupada: No. It is complete government.[?] Where is that book? Very nicely done.
Prabhupada: Nobody can say it is Indian.
Prabhupada: You cannot imagine that India has published.
Gopala Krsna: The First Canto Bhagavatam which you printed in India were... Also, we are keeping the cost low. This is very, very important. Like this whole book, Srila Prabhupada, we've done within eight rupees, fifty paisa, which is quite reasonable. It's very good.
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