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Prabhupada: "Probably," "perhaps." Why Darwin's theory is full of this "perhaps," "probably," "millions of years"? What is this nonsense? Is that knowledge? A mortal man is suggesting "millions of years" and "perhaps," "probably." And that's science. I never liked this.

Tamala Krsna: Never.

Prabhupada: That is my disease.

Tamala Krsna: Even in your school days. How did you feel about when they taught Darwin when you were in school?

Prabhupada: We were never taught. But in our college days one professor, Dr. Kalidas Nahan[?], he was sometimes speaking in relations with history, "prehistoric age," that. But I did not take it very seriously. He was speaking about some anthropology. But he was very... No, historians, they must be very intelligent. And they must refer to this Darwin's theory.

Tamala Krsna: We have to rewrite the history books. Your Bhagavatam is actually rewriting history, universal history.

Prabhupada: Yes. I have many times said that this is universal history.

Tamala Krsna: Yes, you mentioned, "This is not done according to the time chronology or place. Many of the events have taken place on other planets." That you mention in the First Canto. That was very appealing to me.

Prabhupada: And Krsna incarnation appears according to the particular planet and climate, er, planet. Just like churning. That is in higher planetary system. There are persons like that. It is not improper. And we are comparing with us, that "We cannot churn. Therefore there is no churning." That is our disease, to simply compare with our position.

Upendra: Self-centered.

Prabhupada: Yes. Even in this planet, in different places there are different standard. In the ocean, there the standard is different from this standard.

Tamala Krsna: Yes. You said, just like in Africa there are seven-foot-tall people.

Prabhupada: Yes.

Tamala Krsna: Giants.

Prabhupada: In Japan, when I went there for... [aside:] Here. The house, it was so low that "How they live here?"

Tamala Krsna: Was that when we went to Dai Nippon that time?

Prabhupada: [laughs] No, Dai Nippon has good building.

Tamala Krsna: No, I mean is that the time?

Prabhupada: Yes. "What is this? Why so low?" [laughs] I was...

Tamala Krsna: Paper house. You were living in a paper house.

Prabhupada: Yes. I was feeling very uncomfortable.

Tamala Krsna: Insecure in that position. Everyone was cooking nasty things.

Prabhupada: Within this house, within this room, a palace is made in Japan.

Tamala Krsna: He was there for quite a while, Satadhanya Maharaja.

Prabhupada: Yes.

Tamala Krsna: With Trivikrama Maharaja.

Prabhupada: Very short places. Park, [laughs] a nonsense park. A rough hill is a park. You remember?

Tamala Krsna: Um-hmm.

Prabhupada: All ordinary huts, general people.

Tamala Krsna: Yeah. But one thing we noticed, that there was... I remember we had a discussion that there was less fighting amongst the people.

Prabhupada: They are peaceful.

Tamala Krsna: Because they're peaceful, you said.

Prabhupada: Indian culture.

Tamala Krsna: You remember that lady? You were walking, and some old lady, she didn't know you, but just by your dress and the way you were walking...

Prabhupada: Yes.

Tamala Krsna: ...she offered her respects.

Prabhupada: Yes. On the whole, they are good. Culture is Indian.

Tamala Krsna: Eastern culture.

Prabhupada: Yes. But they are imitating.

Tamala Krsna: Srila Prabhupada, Dr. Sharma is waiting outside. Should I go back to him?

Prabhupada: Um-hmm.

[aside:] You can go out. [end]