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Indian man: Yes.
Prabhupada: I was very much satisfied. New Vrindaban. Who wrote it? Somebody went there in my New Vrindaban.
Indian man: I think Mr. Dvari. That I can find out.
Indian man: Yeah, brahmana.
Indian man: Actually if a man is literate but if there is no samskara, I can't say he is better man... If samskara is there and no education, then still I call he is better man. The man without samskara is nothing.
Indian man: Yes, by reading and writing all these things. [Transl. How it used to be in the ancient times? The spiritual master would be sitting and the disciple would be sitting. The spiritual master would instruct and the disciple would follow. That's all. That's why it is called sruti or that which is learned by oral reception. Sruti means heard.] [laughs] By hearing, knowledge by hearing.
Mr. Pandiya: Whoa!
Prabhupada: I do not know. It was lying here, so I have packed.
Prabhupada: I do not know what for it was taken here.
Mr. Pandiya: [Transl. In the Communist country China also! Very good, very good.]
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Prabhupada: They take it trifle. Husband and wife who are fighting, dampatya-kalahe caiva bahv-arambhe laghu-kriya. If there is fight between husband and..., it will be... The show will be very big, and the result will be nil. Bahv-arambhe laghu-kriya. "Never come to me! I shall not see your face! If you come, I shall kill you!" So on, so on.
Prabhupada: And that is also younger age, no old. Old age, they are never. There is no such case. Only younger generation, within thirties, twenties to thirties, they are fighting.
Hari-sauri: Even in the West, the Roman Catholic Church wouldn't allow divorce. The Church of England was started on that because Henry the VIII didn't like his wife, and he wanted to divorce, and the Roman Catholic Church wouldn't let him. So then he did do, so they excommunicated him. So then he started his own church and made up his own laws.
Otherwise, now there's a big push in Italy for divorce and everything, but even in the last ten years there's been no divorce. They don't allow it. And chastity of the woman was still very greatly appreciated too. 'Cause now in the last...
Prabhupada: Woman infidel, they are stoned among the Muhammadans. Christian also. "You have done..." If a woman proved unchaste, she was punished. Is it not?
Prabhupada: The public would stone and kill. You know that punishment? Stoning?
Prabhupada: Everyone will throw a stone. Very torturous death, stoning.
Prabhupada: Here also, in Gujarat, they wear black, black sari.
Prabhupada: And Russia also, respectable widows, they used to live in widow's home. They would never marry.
Prabhupada: I have seen that house when I was in Moscow. That was one of the... What is called? They go to see, especially tourists.
Prabhupada: Red Square. No, I mean to say what is that called when they go to see specially something? Monument or...
Prabhupada: That. Sightseeing. So anyway, they took us to a house.
Prabhupada: Ah, yes, that "Here, respectable widows." In Russia, after being widow, they used to live along with other respectable widows. They would never marry. Widow house. Live with queens and other respectable ladies. This was...
Prabhupada: Hmm?
Prabhupada: Everywhere.
Prabhupada: [pause] So we shall go?
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