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Room Conversation
January 5, 1977, Bombay Prabhupada: (Hindi) ...article in... (Hindi) I was very much satisfied. New Vrindaban. Who wrote it? Somebody went there in my New Vrindaban.
Indian man: I think Mr. Dvari. That I can find out.
Prabhupada: (Hindi) The people are misled. They do not know. Na te viduh svartha-gatim hi visnum. Artha-brahmana-pandita [SB 7.5.31]. Pandiya means...
Indian man: Yeah. brahmana.
Indian man: Actually if a man is literate but if there is no samskara, I can't say he is better than... If samskara is there and no education, then still I call he is better man. The man without samskara is nothing.
Prabhupada: It is..., that brahmacari means samskara, to become satyam samo damas titiksa arjavam jnana... Jnana... You can have knowledge simply by hearing, not by reading books.
Indian man: Yes, by reading and writing all these things. (Hindi) By hearing, knowledge by hearing.
Gopala Krsna: It gave him raja-vidya, which that Mrs. Dutt... you know that editor of that government paper? So I just wanted him to have a final look, grammatical... (Hindi)
Prabhupada: I do not know. It was lying here, so I have packed.
Prabhupada: I do not know what for it was taken here.
Gopala Krsna: Srimad-Bhagavatam, French. [break]
Prabhupada: They take it trifle. Husband and wife who are fighting, dam-pate kalahe caiva bambharambhe laghu kriya.(?) If there is fight between husband and..., it will be... The show will be very big, and the result will be nil. Bambharambhe laghu-kriya. "Never come to me! I shall not see your face! If you come, I shall kill you!" So on, so on. Then next moment they are talking. Bambharambhe laghu-kriya. These are taken very lightly, no seriously. Now they are going... Nowadays, in the court case, fifty percent of cases are divorce in India.
Prabhupada: And that is also younger age, no old. Old age, they are never... There is no such case. Only younger generation, within thirties, twenty to thirty, they are fighting.
Hari-sauri: Even in the West, the Roman Catholic Church wouldn't allow divorce. The Church of England was started on that because Henry VIII didn't like his wife, and he wanted to divorce, and the Roman Catholic Church wouldn't let him. So then he did do, so they excommunicated him. So then he started his own church and made up his own laws. Otherwise, now there's a big push in Italy for divorce and everything, but even in the last ten years there's been no divorce. They don't allow it. And chastity of the woman was still very greatly appreciated too.
Prabhupada: Woman infidel, they are stoned among the Muhammadans. Christian also. "You have done..." Woman proved unchaste, she was punished. Is it not? The public would stone and kill. You know that punishment? Stoning?
Prabhupada: Everyone will throw a stone. Very tortuous death, stoning.
Hari-sauri: I remember my auntie's mother. She was Italian, and she used to wear black all the time. Just like the widows here, they wear white, so she was wearing black. She was a widow. So all the widows, even I saw some young women...
Prabhupada: Here also, in Gujarat, they wear black, black sari.
Hari-sauri: Yes, right. And they wear black, and they don't dress attractively at all, and there's no question of marrying again.
Prabhupada: And Russia also, respectable widows, they used to live in widow's home. They would never marry.
Prabhupada: I have seen that house when I was in Moscow. That was one of the... What is called...? They go to see, especially tourists.
Prabhupada: Red Square. No, I mean to say what is that called when they go to see specially something? Foreign Mecca(?).
Prabhupada: That, no. Sightseeing. So anyway, they took us to a house.
Prabhupada: Ah, yes, that "Here, respectable widows." In Russia, after being widow, they used to live along with other respectable widows. They would never marry. Widow house. Live with queens and other respectable ladies. This was...
Hari-sauri: Now I think about seven or eight marriages out of every ten in Russia end up in divorce.
Prabhupada: Everywhere.
Prabhupada: So we shall go?
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