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Prabhupada: [Bengali]
So Bhavananda is sleeping in the car?
Syamasundara: Yes he is feeling sick.
Prabhupada: [Bengali] [break]
[Whispering]
Gurudas: the United States. In 1938 cause Bhaktivinode Thakura had said that he shouldn't go. He said I tried to disobey him [indistinct] [Bengali] [break]
Syamasundara: You just got started on this?
Jayapataka: [indistinct] start already
[Conversation in the background is loud]
Syamasundara: Let's just finish.
[Bengali] [break] [Bengali]
Acyutananda: To pay off that gardeners debt.
Prabhupada: Well I have already promised him to pay on his debts but he, he said yes but he did not come. I am prepared to pay whatever his debt.
[Bengali] [faint sound] [break]
Prabhupada: Do not keep there. There is tendency for fallen down.
Syamasundara: I'll just wash my hands then I'll sit it nicely.
[Bengali] [break]
Syamasundara: Hmm. Ah. Family.
Syamasundara: [laughs]. These are the sevites?
Syamasundara: Sri sevites.
Syamasundara: Hm… Then there is the signature of the seven persons. Rules and regulations? Of Sri Bhaktivinode-gosthi. Constitution. Constitution this charitable religious literary association or society called Sri Bhaktivinode-gosthi is constituted and composed of seven members. Some of them paying subscription annually and others for life paying subscriptions at a time. Including the sevite of the Ulla Sri Bhaktivinode Dvaras Mandir in the municipal town of Birnagar in the district of Nadia, West Bengal and the gosthipathi of the society. All of whom will form the mem…
Prabhupada: [Bengali]
[Bengali conversation]
Syamasundara: All of whom will form the managing executive committee and governing body and will be eligible to become office bearers and will hold posts as 1. President and Vice president. 2. Secretary and joint or assistant secretaries. 3. Treasurer and librarian. 4. Accountant. 5. Auditor. 6. Manager. 7. Gosthipathi. 8. Sevite and his assistants to perform seva and puja of deities at the said Mandir. And will hold any other post or posts which will be created afterwards by the committee as under the rules. Subscription of life member shall be annually 300 rupees at a time.
Syamasundara: The subscription for ordinary member shall be rupees one per month or rupees 12 per annum.
Prabhupada: 300 for whom?
Syamasundara: Life members.
Prabhupada: Life members.
Syamasundara: At a time.
[Bengali conversation]
Syamasundara: These members will be solely and wholly in charge of the money.
Gurudas: Who?
Syamasundara: These members.
Syamasundara: Yeah. Legal code? Yeah. These seven members? [indistinct] says these members. That is the seven members?
Syamasundara: Yeah.
[Bengali]
Syamasundara: It sounds like our constitution.
Prabhupada: It is the same.
Devotee: Books.
Syamasundara: Is the library here?
Devotee: Yes. We purchased the iron[?] here.
[Bengali conversation]
Prabhupada: …lease for development… [Bengali] We hold the lease from you.
Prabhupada: Legal limit, so 99 years.
[Bengali conversation]
Prabhupada: Bas, simple fact. Simply lease for so many years with option to revive. [Bengali]
Prabhupada: We don't want proprietorship, you give us lease.
Prabhupada: For 99 years. For Development that's all. [Bengali]
Prabhupada: [Bengali] Now I require massages.
Syamasundara: Where would you like to take massage? In the sunshine?
Prabhupada: Eh?
Syamasundara: In the sun?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Syamasundara: Massage. We will take massage.
[Bengali conversation]
[Bengali conversations]
Prabhupada: You also take bath?
Devotees: Yes.
Prabhupada: [indistinct]
Gurudasa: That bathing ghat by Bhaktivinode's…
[Bengali conversation]
Devotee: Yeah, I'll show you the temple.
Gurudasa: All right.
Devotee: I'll just take you to the…
Gurudasa: You know I just did a round by the birth site. It was wonderful.
Devotee: Around of [indistinct] of beads
Gurudasa: Beads. Now I'll do some film.
[simultaneous Bengali / English conversations]
Prabhupada: Be at home. Logic [Bengali]
Syamasundara: B H… be at home. Oh. [laughs]
Prabhupada: We're at home.
Syamasundara: [laughs]
Prabhupada: We are at our father's house.
[Bengali conversation] two hours [Bengali]
Prabhupada: Bas. [Bengali]
[Bengali conversation]
Syamasundara: There's a place [indistinct].
[Bengali conversation]
Bengali devotee: [reading newspaper] Russia France and Britain. [Bengali]
[break]. A tide of discussion between India and Pakistan. Russia [indistinct] France and Britain want.
[Bengali conversation] [break]
Syamasundara: Sun. You will go out for some sun also? So you are leaving?
Syamasundara: Okay.
Syamasundara: So you will move over and sit here?
Syamasundara: Ah.
[Bengali conversation]
Syamasundara: Eh?
Syamasundara: We will sit there?
Bengali devotee: The room is.
Syamasundara: That's all right I don't need to go anywhere.
Syamasundara: All right.
Syamasundara: Okay. [laughs]
Syamasundara: We want to walk. Okay, all right.
Syamasundara: We'll go see. Thank you. [break]
Prabhupada: [Bengali conversation in the garden].
He looks like his father also.
Syamasundara: His mother appears very beautiful also in those photos.
Prabhupada: Hm.
Syamasundara: Shining face. That man is reading the newspaper to him. Every day he gets all the news.
Prabhupada: This is the system, old aristocratic.
Syamasundara: Ah.
Prabhupada: Every old man should engage a man to read the news.
Syamasundara: Oh.
Prabhupada: Spread it.
Syamasundara: On the ground?
Prabhupada: Yes. Watch the bottle. It will be dry within 10 minutes by the time I take my.
Yadubara: I shouldn't wring that should I?
Syamasundara: [laughs]
Yadubara: Easy way to iron.
Syamasundara: These are old temples?
Prabhupada: Eh?
Syamasundara: These are very old temples?
Prabhupada: Yes. At least 200 years.
Prabhupada: Formerly they used to worship goddess Kali.
Syamasundara: Is that boy some relation?
Prabhupada: No.
Syamasundara: Just a friend. Society. A good boy.
Prabhupada: I have given him the suggestion the whole thing is solved in one minute. He also agrees.
Syamasundara: Lease.
Prabhupada: Lease.
Syamasundara: 99 years.
Prabhupada: That's it.
Syamasundara: Not for proprietorship for development.
Prabhupada: What is the use of proprietorship?
Syamasundara: What do we care? [laughs] Krsna is the proprietor.
Prabhupada: 99 years, our life, your life, your grand your son's life… We have to give some service so long the body is there, otherwise what shall I do with the property? Everything will remain here.
Syamasundara: He knows that you are in a position to develop it until some.
Prabhupada: Yes, 99. So one bucket cold water and one bucket hot water and one soap.
Syamasundara: One hot and one cold.
[indistinct discussion] [break].
Prabhupada: Bhavananda is a good massager.
Syamasundara: Yes. How big is the property here? Does it extend around some distance?
Prabhupada: 20 bigas.
Syamasundara: 20 bigas, oh that is large.
Gurudasa: Has he agreed to your proposals Srila Prabhupada?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Syamasundara: So should we get? Draw up some papers or?
Prabhupada: He'll do it.
Syamasundara: He'll do it. Very nice. [laughs] So before you leave India.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Syamasundara: All these things finished.
[break]. I was I always used to dream that you would take us to these places. [laughs] [break]
Prabhupada: So we require a few cars from America.
Syamasundara: Yes.
Devotee: Jeeps.
Syamasundara: I think heavy Jeeps.
Prabhupada: That is.
Syamasundara: Cars like that rough.
Devotee: Like UNICEF Jeeps.
Syamasundara: Or Land Rovers.
Devotee: Yes.
Prabhupada: That's all right. There is bathroom? No?
Syamasundara: Yes… And some more men also I think are required.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Syamasundara: [indistinct] they'll all come out.
Gurudasa: They don't want to come anyway.
[indistinct conversation]
Prabhupada: I've got enough for…[break]
Devotee (2): Jagannath Puri also.
Gurudasa: Dvarkadisa, where the boats.
Prabhupada: … And was purchased by Bhaktivinode Thakura at Rs.150.
Acyutananda: All of it?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Syamasundara: Per biga?
Prabhupada: No for the whole plot.
Acyutananda: [laughs]
Prabhupada: That was 20 bigas.
Syamasundara: In Mayapur that man from the Caitanya Math has bought 150 acres.
Acyutananda: That's about Rs.10. Less than Rs.10. [break]
Prabhupada: [indistinct] who had some excess money in hand. [break]. After producing they want cash in their hand. The capitalist will take, hold it for some time naturally the price will increase and they will sell it. That system is still going on but it is very dangerously made.
People do not bring out the commodity they simply speculate, "I purchased it from you, you purchase it from me," so the goods are there and transaction is going on. I sell to you, you sell to him, you sell and so on and people do not get the goods. There is scarcity and it is lying somewhere and the speculation is going on.
Syamasundara: Somewhere else.
Prabhupada: Yes. And because the goods are not coming the market is increasing, you see. This rogueism is going on and there are so many banks although I have no money. Suppose I want to purchase one lakh worth of grains. Somehow or other if I have Rs.20,000 the bank will give me 80,000.
So the market is increasing, I'm not selling and when it is to my full satisfaction I sell, I pay the banks money and take a large huge profit. This is going on, in every commodity. Things are not coming out it has become gold exchange. But they will sell just at the beginning of the next season.
Syamasundara: Hm.
Prabhupada: Otherwise they will be put into knots. [break]
Syamasundara: No, no as long as you are here I'm not afraid.
Prabhupada: Ah, the population has decreased.
Syamasundara: They have driven them away. Or killed them.
Prabhupada: When there is… Just like you do not go to the forest [indistinct] infested with many animals. Similarly they also do not come to the human society and the bigger population.
Syamasundara: Hm.
Syamasundara: Hm.
Prabhupada: That's all. They have forgotten that Krsna is the center he is our father. So there is no fear but that they have forgotten. Now, isad apetasya viparyayo 'smrtih, they have forgotten that we are brothers. Therefore fight, we have got equal rights to enjoy the father's property but no, I am taking more you are starving. And this is going on. Krsna consciousness will solve all these questions.
If everyone has got the right to enjoy father's property why one should take more? This is the best idea of communism, these things are there in Bhagavata. Bhagavata says whatever is there in the sky, whatever there is on the land and whatever there is on the water they belong to the Supreme Lord. So every living entity has the right to enjoy it as it is allotted by the Lord. This is Bhagavata's contribution.
Syamasundara: Hm. In other words if a man is born a King he is allowed to enjoy like a King?
Prabhupada: Yes King is to manage these affairs.
Syamasundara: Hm.
Prabhupada: If everything is property of God, you are all sons of God. So King's business is to see that nobody is encroaching upon other's property. Nobody is fighting and he equally distributes the produce, that is the king's duty. He has to see that whether brahmanas are executing their duty, ksatriya's, vaisyas according to their division, this is King's duty. To make him Krsna conscious but King is simply interested with the tax. No education, so-called King, and the king is finished, now the people have taken in the name of people's government but it is an oligarch.
It is for the interests of a few men and all of them rogues and thieves just like Gandhi started indigenous manufacture. Buy sell car, by manufacturing one's own cloth, now that became a show and the government started big big factories owned by capitalists. So Britishers were taking one rupee and eight annas per pair and they are now taking twenty-one rupees eight annas. Twenty times increase, government does not say anything because they are getting tax in different ways, excise tax, sales tax, income tax and the tax is distributed amongst the government servants. People do not get any benefit.
Syamasundara: Hm.
Prabhupada: 20% of the tax collected, they distribute for the people's welfare and 80% divided, divided by the governors, rajputies, secretaries and government servants-this is the position. One side the capitalist is exploiting and the government is taking tax from them and the government means a few men they are enjoying, that's it. This is all over the world I can see, and they want that the people should be engaged in fighting in the name of nationalism and they will enjoy that's all.
They have no good idea for the betterment of the position of the citizens. What we are doing every government should have done it-Krsna consciousness but the rascals they simply plunder the citizens and enjoy. Wine women and flesh-this is the position. [break] [indistinct], they are mlecchas and taking the dress of the king, killing the whole world. [break].
[Bengali conversation]
LalitaPrasada: [Bengali].
12 lakhs and all under the [indistinct] and putting a temple on that land only to get rid of it. 30 bigas to get the site, your site[?].
Prabhupada: [indistinct] it start by...
Prabhupada: Otherwise there is meeting 4 o'clock?
Syamasundara: Not today.
Prabhupada: Eh?
Syamasundara: Not today tomorrow.
Prabhupada: Not tomorrow. The press reporter?
Syamasundara: Oh is there a press meeting?
Gurudasa: I don't know.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Syamasundara: Oh.
Prabhupada: The press reporters from Navadvipa will come.
Syamasundara: Hmm.
Prabhupada: After four. So we must reach there by five, it will take 2 ½ hours. So by half past two we must get out.
Prabhupada: Let us...
Prabhupada: [Bengali] prasadam ready.
Syamasundara: So at about 2 o'clock I will begin working on the car and try to make that horn work.
Devotee: [indistinct]
Prabhupada: Without horn, not possible?
Syamasundara: No, well we can do that again. [laughs]
Prabhupada: What's wrong with that?
Syamasundara: It's dangerous.
Syamasundara: Dinner plate.
Syamasundara: No Prabhupada's plate. You know plate? Brass plate.
Syamasundara: Oh Yeah [laughs].
Syamasundara: [laughs]
[plays a part of Prabhupada's recording Bengali conversation]. Sideways, side view [Bengali].
Syamasundara: Only from the side?
Syamasundara: Only from the side?
Syamasundara: Ah.
Syamasundara: Left side?
Syamasundara: Ah. Ah... No eyeglasses?
Syamasundara: Ah.
Syamasundara: Ah.
Syamasundara: Ah... One eye is better than no. A one-eyed uncle is better than no uncle.
Devotees: Yes.
Gurudasa: Oh yes, yes.
Gurudasa: Yes, yes that's a fact.
Gurudasa: Yes yes.
Gurudasa: Longevity of life. Because then something else has to replace that…
Syamasundara: Hm.
Syamasundara: Hm… But when you are speaking on religious subjects then your strength comes out?
Syamasundara: You said that when you are speaking on religious subjects then your strength comes out.
Syamasundara: Hm.
Gurudasa: Servants of maya.
Gurudasa: Yes illusion.
Syamasundara: Bedding? Yes they are in Mayapur.
Syamasundara: In our camp.
[Gong sounds]
Syamasundara: Yes we go bathing there.
Syamasundara: Hm.
Prabhupada: Up to Gandhinagar.
Syamasundara: Hm.
Lalita Prasada: From jan-nagar[?] And at Ganga[?] it tries to. Took turn and then it came towards south. Towards East and then it goes a bit further [indistinct] 500 years ago [indistinct] time when Mayapur was discovered again, Thakura's expressed[?] But again that was stopped and the course has taken another way. By… Other side [indistinct] how the Ganges has shifted from one side to another… [indistinct] out 20 miles…Ganges shifted.
Syamasundara: Hm. 20 miles?
Syamasundara: Hm? 12 lakhs?
Syamasundara: Biggest temple in Bengal. We are rising.
Syamasundara: Yes. One of the biggest in India.
Syamasundara: Hm.
Syamasundara: Eh? Tallest.
Syamasundara: Yeah.
Syamasundara: 180?
Syamasundara: Hm.
Gurudasa: Yes in Orissa.
Syamasundara: In San Francisco California we have New Jagannath Puri.
Syamasundara: In San Francisco.
Syamasundara: You've seen picture?
Syamasundara: Hm.
Syamasundara: I think we have now six temples in England.
Syamasundara: Six temples in England.
Syamasundara: London, Birmingham, Manchester, Cardiff,
Syamasundara: Yes,
Gurudasa: Edinburg.
Syamasundara: Edinburgh.
Syamasundara: Scotland and Dublin.
Syamasundara: Yes.
Syamasundara: Yes Ireland and Scotland.
Syamasundara: In London?
Syamasundara: Ireland. Ah.
Syamasundara: Hm.
Syamasundara: No. British have lost their rule everywhere.
Syamasundara: Because they are taking to Krsna consciousness they will be saved, America.
Syamasundara: America is now taking to Krsna consciousness.
Syamasundara: Everywhere. America is taking to this Hare Krsna chanting.
Syamasundara: Simple.
Syamasundara: No. Yes.
Syamasundara: All the big cities.
Syamasundara: over 60 temples in America. Established by Srila Prabhupada.
Syamasundara: Yes. Every big city, one big big temple.
Syamasundara: Throughout the day.
Syamasundara: Morning.
Syamasundara: Bhog.
Gurudasa: Hare Krsna [indistinct]
[Bengali conversation, someone has asked for mrdaṅga]
[Bengali conversation with Srila Prabhupada]
Syamasundara: You don't eat?
Syamasundara: Monkeys?
[Bengali Prabhupada and others]
Prabhupada: Let us go… call them.
Syamasundara: We are going now?
Prabhupada: No. Then later.
Syamasundara: Yes.
Syamasundara: Oh yes there is one boy he has jaundice. One boy.
Syamasundara: Only fruits, fruits, that's all. I think he takes.
Syamasundara: At this time of year?
Syamasundara: Ah. [laughs]
Syamasundara: All right. [Microphone being moved]
Syamasundara: About Rs.1000.
Syamasundara: Rs.1000
Syamasundara: Eh? Where?
[referring to bad workmanship in the house and advising to beware]
Syamasundara: Bad work. Ah.
Syamasundara: But on good work, nothing. About one rupee.
[Bengali conversation]
Syamasundara: [Moving stuff]. I will. I would like to bring my wife and child everybody in… Well maybe? How long it takes by train to come here? How long by train to come here?
Prabhupada: Two hours by train from Mayapur, from Navadvipa?
Syamasundara: 20 minutes?
Syamasundara: From here to Navadvipa?
Syamasundara: Krsna-nagar? Ah.
Syamasundara: Ah. I see in total 18 miles. Yeah.
Syamasundara: Okay. Yeah.
Syamasundara: So from here there is train direct to Krsna-nagar.
Syamasundara: Yeah straight.
Syamasundara: Yeah [laughs]
Syamasundara: Okay we will go.
[Kirtana in background]
[Bengali conversation]
Syamasundara: Hare Krsna.
Syamasundara: Eh?
Syamasundara: Yes.
[Bengali conversations and silence for 5 mins] [break]
Gurudasa: Passport?
Gurudasa: In what year?
Gurudasa: 38. Oh!
Gurudasa: Ah.
Gurudasa: Oh.
Gurudasa: Five minutes?
Gurudasa: Oh.
Gurudasa: [laughs]
Syamasundara: Jaya.
Gurudasa: Oh.
Gurudasa: Oh.
Gurudasa: Yes.
Gurudasa: Oh he told you?
Gurudasa: Oh still that is… then got ill.
Gurudasa: Oh.
Gurudasa: Haribol.
Gurudasa: Yes. Impossible.
Gurudasa: Impossible.
Gurudasa: Yes.
Gurudasa: Yes, yes…
[speaking French] je ne sais pas [indistinct]
Gurudasa: Oh.
Prabhupada: Ah.
Prabhupada: [Bengali] [break]
Prabhupada: Give me water, cold water.
Holi: [indistinct]
Syamasundara: Cold water?
Gurudasa: You also photographed that poster?
Gurudasa: You also photographed that portrait?
Gurudasa: That famous photo.
Gurudasa: You photograph that one?
Gurudasa: Acha, that one is famous all around the world.
Gurudasa: All over the world.
Gurudasa: Yes.
Gurudasa: But this one especially.
Yadubara: He has this on the album also.
Gurudasa: It is very famous…
Gurudasa: You can ask Srila Prabhupada [indistinct]
Yadubara: Srila Prabhupada?
Prabhupada: Ah. Yes.
Prabhupada: [indistinct] …sit down here. No.
Yadubara: I don't think he can move very well.
Prabhupada: No he cannot move, I can move.
Yadubara: Yeah.
Prabhupada: Where shall I sit?
Yadubara: It would be best if he could turn. I'm not sure if he can do that, and you could sit here.
Prabhupada: I will sit down here.
Yadubara: Yeah, you could sit on the chair here.
Prabhupada: Oh.
Yadubara: And if he can turn a little, I can take the photo from there.
Prabhupada: [Bengali]. Mystical?
Yadubara: We'll do a candid and a portrait, also.
Gurudasa: Hare Krsna.
Yadubara: Very nice. Thank you very much.
Prabhupada: The car is ready or not?
Gurudasa: I think Syamasundara is just finishing fixing.
Gurudasa: Syamasundara prabhu!
Yadubara: Syamasundara how long will it be?
Syamasundara: Five more minutes.
Yadubara: He says five more minutes.
Prabhupada: Hm.
Yadubara: No no. [laughs]
Gurudasa: Ohh!
Syamasundara: [Outside] Try it now.
Gurudasa: Oh.
Prabhupada: That means from the past life you were a…
Prabhupada: Finished?
Syamasundara: No. I need one small piece of wire. I wondered…
Syamasundara: Electric wire about this long.
Syamasundara: [laughs] He's got everything.
Prabhupada: Yes, yes.
Prabhupada: And the road? [Bengali]
Prabhupada: Where is Bhavananda?
Yadubara: He is sleeping.
Yadubara: I think he is a little bit sick.
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