710718IN.DET
Detroit Initiations

Detroit, July 18, 1971
Prabhupada: Beads. Give me beads. (chants japa) Where is that tulasi plant? Today's not very hot. Warm... It is all right. (Chants japa, devotee chants purificatory mantras. More japa. Devotee chants mantra again. Prabhupada corrects his pronunciation. More japa. Jagadisa gives lecture while Prabhupada chants japa. Then more japa.) The ten offenses, explain. (Jagadisa explains ten offenses from book) Give them chairs. Some ladies are standing.
Jagadisa: (continues lecture on offenses) ...the mind will be controlled. And we can fix the mind of Krsna's lotus feet. The mind will be wavering here and there, but if we control the lower self...
Prabhupada: Or, in other words, when you fix up your mind in Krsna, then senses will be automatically controlled. This way is difficult. That way is easy. You fix up your mind... Sa vai manah krsna-padaravindayor vacamsi vaikuntha-gunanuvarnane [SB 9.4.18]. Ambarisa Maharaja, he was a emperor, but he was a great devotee. How? He always fixed up his mind on the lotus feet of Krsna. Vacamsi. Sa vai manah krsna-padaravindayor. Krsna-padaravindayor, on the lotus feet of Krsna, he fixed up his mind. Vacamsi vaikuntha-gunanuvarnane. The next is the tongue. Mind fixed up, then the next sense is, important sense, is the tongue. Next to the mind, tongue should be controlled. How? By chanting Hare Krsna and eating Krsna prasadam. Then other senses will be automatically controlled. (continues chanting japa)
Jagadisa: (continues lecture) We must know the goal. We must know by intelligence...
Prabhupada: That verse is not quoted there? Sa vai manah krsna-padaravindayor vacamsi vaikuntha-gunanuvarnane. Leg should be engaged to go to the temple of Krsna. Hand should be engaged for cleansing the temple. Nose should be engaged for smelling tulasi which is offered to the lotus feet of Krsna. Ear should be engaged for hearing about Krsna. Eyes should be engaged for seeing Krsna beautifully dressed. These things are... In this way the temple worship means all these senses being engaged in Krsna consciousness, mind and senses. Then they can, cannot do any harm. They're already engaged. They cannot have any other engagement. And if you keep vacant the mind and the senses, then maya will capture. Then eye will go to see the cinema and tongue will go to the restaurant, for rooster(?) (cocktails?), what is called? These things will be engaged. Yes. (continues japa)
Jagadisa: (continues lecture) So we must always try to fix our mind on Krsna's activities, Krsna's lotus feet...
Prabhupada: Bhavausadhi srotra-mano-'bhiramat. Krsna's pastimes are described as the medicine of the disease bhava. Bhava means repeated birth and death. This is a disease. So bhavausadhi. The medicine, panacea, for curing this disease, bhavausadhi. At the same time, srotra-mano-'bhiramat: it is very pleasing to hear, and very enlightening to the heart. Krsna's name is so nice, Krsna's pastime is so nice, that it is very pleasing, very satisfying, at the same time, it is the medicine for the disease of repeated birth and death. (continues japa)
Jagadisa: One of the qualities of...
Prabhupada: The more you become free from material harassment, the more you make advance in spiritual life, or the more you make advance in spiritual life, the more you become detached to the material life. These are the tests. Bhaktih paresanubhavo viraktir anyatra syat [SB 11.2.42]. Bhakti, devotional life, spiritual life, the test is that viraktir anyatra. Anyatra means beyond, without Krsna, everything becomes detestful. The example is given just like a hungry man, when he's eating, as he's eating so he's feeling satisfaction and no hunger, proportionately. And at one time it will come, he'll say, "No, I don't want any more. I am completely satisfied." Svamin krtartho 'smi varam na yace [Cc. Madhya 22.42]. Just like Dhruva Maharaja. He said, "I am now completely satisfied. I have, I haven't got to ask anything, benediction." That is the progress and ultimate goal of bhakti. As soon as one is saturated with bhakti, he has no more demand, no more attraction for this material world. Not... Krsna attraction means decreasing attraction for the material world. Go on. (chants japa) One can test his advancement for spiritual life, how he is being detached to the material life. That's all. It is not to be taken certificate from others. Just like when you eat, you haven't got to take certificate from others. You'll feel, "Yes, I'm satisfied." That's all. You don't require, while eating nicely, you don't require to take certificate: "Am I eating nicely?" You'll know yourself. (japa) Another example is given: the candy. Candy, when a man is suffering from jaundice disease, if you give him candy, he'll taste it bitter. That means more one is materially suffering, he'll not be interested to Krsna consciousness. But the example is this: The candy is the only medicine for jaundice. So we have to give him candy by force. And as he cure, as he cures, he'll say, "Oh, candy's very nice. Candy's sweet." So in the beginning we have to force. We have to give the medicine just like horse is given medicine. Three men required to induce medicine to the mouth of the horse. So this is our duty, to inject Hare Krsna medicine just like pushing medicine in the throat of a horse. By force. (japa) (devotees chant prayers) Then neck, neck beads. Let them... (devotees continue prayers; devotee begins lecture again) Go on. I shall distribute this. Who is the...?
Jagadisa: Should I go on?
Prabhupada: Yes. (Jagadisa continues lecture) [break] Atmarama dasa. Atmarama means who is satisfied with self-realization. Next. Puranjana was a great king, devotee, in the history. (devotees coming up, taking initiation.) Aprakrta. Aprakrta means transcendental. Yes. Hare Krsna. Then, next? There are different stages of understanding. First understanding is direct perception, pratyaksa. In Sanskrit word it is called pratyaksa, direct understanding. That tenth-class understanding, that is not actually understanding, direct perception. But people are giving stress that "I want to see. I want to touch." This is called pratyaksa. Then next is paroksa, hearing from authorities. Then aparoksa, realizing. Then adhoksaja means beyond the perception of the senses. Then aprakrta, transcendental. These are the stages for going to the aprakrta, transcendental stage. From direct perception, then, pratyaksa, paroksa, to take instruction from others. Then realization. Then beyond these senses. Then aprakrta, transcendental. So Krsna is aprakrta. Krsna cannot be understood by direct sense perception. Gradually you have to rise to the aprakrta stage, which is called Vasudeva stage, beyond this material understanding. That will take time. You have to practice that. Hare Krsna. Come on.
Hiranyagarbha. Hiranyagarbha is Lord Brahma's name. Or Garbhodakasayi Visnu's name. Generally Garbhodakasayi Visnu's. Hiranyagarbha dasa. That's all right.
Then, next. Where is...? No neck bead? How is that? Where is neck bead? Huh? Oh, these things are not good. It must be well equipped. Otherwise, what is the meaning of initiation? Give... No neck bead? Go on. First of all get neck beads. Who is next? You have got neck beads? That's all right. Visvakarma. Visvakarma is the engineer of this universe. Hare Krsna. Jaya. You know what are the rules and regulations? That's right.
Next? Come on. Dinesvara. Dinesvara is the name of sun, sun-god. Come on. We are all dasa, not the person. When you call "Krsna," "Krsna" means Krsna dasa. When you call Dinesvara, Dinesvara, means Dinesvara's servant. Our position is always servant. Dasa-anudasa [Cc. Madhya 13.80]. Servant of the servant, servant of the servant, the more, the more you become on the lower status of servant, our position is greater. This is...
Come on. Next. You arranged for offering this sacrifice? You arranged? What is name? Maha? Mahavira. Eh? M, h, r. Mahavira. Mahavira is the name of Hanuman, the servant of Lord Ramacandra. He was very strong. He could raise even the hills for service of the Lord. Mahavira. Maha means great, and vira means hero.
Come on. Hare Krsna. Don't laugh. Then... Bahismati, one of the daughters of Manu. Come on. Hare Krsna. You know, what are the rules? Tell me. Thank you. Hare Krsna.
Come on. Next. Who's this? Oh, all right. Then how many still remaining? All right. (chants japa) First of all grains mixed up. (more japa) Come on. Take your. Come on. Whose beads are lying on the floor there? Whose beads? Oh, you never put it in the floor. When there is no bag, you put like this. Mahayajni, Mahayajni is a name of Lord Siva. Hare Krsna. Take. (more japa)
Uttamasloka. Uttamasloka means Krsna who is chanted with best verses. Come on. (more japa, devotees chant prayers). You keep it. You keep it. (prayers continued) So where is that, he has come? Waiting. I'm going just now. (more prayers, japa)
Bhagavati. Goddess Durga's name. Goddess Durga, external energy of Krsna. (more japa, prayers) Tapasvini: who performs great austerity. Svarga dasi. (Prabhupada leaves, devotees continue prayers) (end)

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