Konigstein, Germany, June 19, 1974
Prabhupada: ...because it is full of cheating, full of mistake, full of illusion, imperfectness, then how you can understand the thing or the person who is beyond your perception? That is not possible. Acintyah khalu ye bhava na tams tarkena yojayet. This is Vedic instruction, that "Things which are beyond your perception, don't try to understand by this foolish argument and logic." Don't try to understand. Acintyah khalu ye bhava. Acintya means beyond your conception. Cintya means within you perception, and acintya means beyond your conception. Acintyah khalu ye bhava na tams tarkena. You cannot understand by this rascal logic and philosophy. That is not possible. Then how it is to be understood? There are many places. Atah sri-krsna-namadi na bhaved grahyam indriyaih [Cc. Madhya 17.136]. These blunt senses, you cannot understand Krsna. Krsna's name, Krsna's form, Krsna's qualities, Krsna's activities—you cannot understand. Then I have got this... This is my, in possession. How can I understand Krsna? That is said, sevonmukhe hi jihvadau. When you engage your tongue in the service of the Lord. Now, this is also another peculiar thing, that to understand by the tongue, not by the mind. Tongue. Tongue means we have got two businesses we perform with the tongue. One is tasting foodstuff and vibrating voice. So you use the tongue vibrating Hare Krsna maha-mantra and eat Krsna prasadam-bas. Then you understand Krsna. You don't understand, but He reveals.
And actually that is happening. All over the world, these young boys and girls, because they are chanting Hare Krsna mantra, and because they are eating Krsna prasadam, now they are developing their Krsna consciousness. They are not Vedantist. They have not studied all the Vedas. But how they are understanding? If they are not understanding Krsna, how they are sticking to this life? In this life everything is forbidden: no illicit sex, no gambling, no intoxication. Everything no. Material life finished. Why they are sticking unless they are understanding Krsna? This is the proof. The more you stick to these principle, sevonmukhe jihvadau, engage your tongue in two business—chanting Hare Krsna and eat Krsna prasada—your life will be perfect.
Thank you very much. [break] Any question?
Prabhupada: You first of all question on the topics we have finished. Of course, this is also pointing... What is your question? Go on.
Devotee (1): Well, you explained that we have three kinds of miseries: adhyatmika, adhibhautika and adhidaivika. So adhyatmika is the misery also of the mind.
Devotee (1): How can I understand?
Prabhupada: Well, the, a mind is sometimes not in order. That is adhyatmika. Suppose somebody comes to me and asks some question. I am not thinking, but...(?) "Well, later on I shall say." That means mind is not in order. You are hearing Bhagavad-gita, but your mind may be somewhere else. So there is... This is mind's disease, rejecting and accepting. There is mind's disease; there is bodily disease. That is called adhyatmika.
Indian man: Krsna says according to your, as you said, learn to tolerate. Learn to endure, toleration. And what... How can one be better equipped to tolerate these despairs and miseries of our human existence?
Prabhupada: The more he understands that he is not body. The more he understands that "I am not this body," then he can tolerate. And if we become disturbed by the pains and pleasure of the body, then we shall forget our real business. Our real business is to get out... I am not this body, but this human body is a chance how to get out of this body. That is my real business. So if we are disturbed by these bodily pains and pleasure very much, then I forget my real business. Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu has advised, taror api sahisnuna.
Trnad api sunicena. Just like grass. Everyone is trampling over the grass. The grass does not protest. Therefore humbler than the grass. And tolerant than the tree. In this way we shall have to keep our position in this material world and advance in spiritual consciousness. If we become disturbed, then we cannot make progress. Suppose we are prohibiting so many things. Especially in the Western world, this is very painful. But you have to tolerate. If you want to get out of this body, you have to tolerate. Actually it is not painful. If you are in Krsna consciousness, then it is not difficult. It is very easy. It is not very. So any other question?
Devotee (2): Prabhupada, how does one develop his desire, then, to get out of this body?
Prabhupada: No desire. No material desire. Simply think of how to push on this movement. That desire and no other desire. Anyabhilasita-sunyam [Brs. 1.1.11]. No material desire. Sunyam. Make zero all material desires. Simply desire, "How shall I push on? How shall I serve Krsna? How shall I decorate this?" Therefore we have given so many engagements, to divert the desire. Desire cannot be stopped. That is not possible. Those foolish persons are: "Become desireless." That is not possible. Desireless means I am dead. No. Purify desire. Purify desire. You have got the desire for driving motorcar. Just drive motorcar for preaching Krsna consciousness. (laughter) You see? This is the... Change the quality of the desire. Desire cannot be stopped. That is not possible. I want to eat very nice foodstuff. All right, eat remnants of foodstuff. We offer Krsna the best food. That is the regulative principle. Krsna also should be offered the best foodstuff, and you take the remnants. Krsna is not so hungry that He is... He is taking, but He is leaving also. That is Krsna's eating. Krsna says that patram puspam phalam toyam yo me bhaktya prayacchati, tad aham asnami: [Bg. 9.26] "Anyone who is offering Me these foodstuff made of patram puspam, vegetable and food grains and milk and this..." He never says, "Give Me meat or eggs." No. He never says. He says, patram puspam phalam toyam. These foodstuffs we can prepare nicely in so many ways, and Krsna says, "If somebody offers Me with faith and love, I eat it." Now, the question is, you see that "Whatever I offer, these things are there. How Krsna has eaten?" Therefore His eating process is different. But He has eaten. That you have to learn from the sastra, that purnasya purnam adaya purnam evavasisyate [Iso Invocation]. He is not hungry; still, He can eat the whole world. But still, the world remains as it is. That will require some brain to understand. (laughter) Krsna eats. Krsna eats and again keeps the whole thing as it is for your eating. So you are not loser. If you offer to Krsna, Krsna will eat and He will again get you the foodstuff for eating. That is His fullness. That is His fullness. So therefore you prepare very, very nice foodstuff and offer to Krsna and take it. Then your desire for eating nice foodstuff will be automatically fulfilled. And at the same time become devotee of Krsna. Why don't you do this? Anyone can do, either in this temple or at home. But they will not worship Krsna. They will worship a dog. Instead of God, keeping dog and taking all care. This is the mentality. Then next life he becomes a dog. Because he has got good faith and love for dog, therefore he becomes dog. And if you have got good faith and love for Krsna, you become a body like Krsna. Unless you have got the same type of body, how you can play with Krsna, dance with Krsna? Therefore when Krsna says, tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti... [Bg. 4.9]. If you become a perfect devotee of Krsna, then after giving up this body, you get a body like Krsna, sac-cid-ananda-vigraha [Bs. 5.1], and live eternally, blissful life of knowledge. That should be the aim of life. All right, chant Hare Krsna. (end)
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