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690511AD.COL
Address to Indian Association

Columbus, May 11, 1969
Prabhupada:
All glories to the sankirtana movement. Param vijayate sri-krsna-sankirtanam. Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, five hundred years ago in Navadvipa, at the age of sixteen years only, a boy of sixteen years, He introduced this movement, sankirtana movement. Not that He manufactured some religious system. Just like nowadays there are..., so many religious system have been manufactured. Actually, religion cannot be manufactured. Dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam: [SB 6.3.19] "Religion means the codes of God, the laws of God." That's all. Just like you cannot live without obeying the state laws, similarly, you cannot live without obeying the laws of God. And in the Bhagavad-gita, the Lord says, yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati: [Bg. 4.7] "Whenever there is discrepancies in the process of religious, prosecution of religious activities," yada yada hi dharmasya glanir bhavati, abhyutthanam adharmasya, "and there is predominance of irreligious activities," tadatmanam srjamy aham, "at that time," Krsna, the Lord, says that "I appear." That is the way. The same principle. Just like as soon as there is disobedience of state laws, there is advent of some particular state officer or the governor or the state man to take step and to set things right. That is the way.
So Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, He is worshiped by the Gosvamins, and there is a verse written by Rupa Gosvami, one of His principal disciples. There were six Gosvamins: Rupa Gosvami, Sanatana Gosvami, Raghunatha Bhatta Gosvami, Sri Jiva Gosvami, Gopala Bhatta Gosvami, and Sri Raghunatha dasa Gosvami. All of them were Gosvamins. Gosvamins means... Go means senses. There are three meanings of go. Go means land; go means cow; go means senses. So gosvami... They were gosvami means they were master of the senses. Svami or gosvami, the same category. Gosvami is more explained. Svami means master. So when one becomes master of the senses, gosvami, he can make progress in the spiritual life. That is the meaning of svami. Svami does not mean that he is servant of the senses. Svami means master of the senses, gosvami. So they were all gosvamis, and one of the gosvamis, Rupa Gosvami, he was the head. So he compiled one nice verse in respect of honoring Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu. He says,
He is blessing the people in general that "This incarnation of God, Krsna..." Anarpita-carim cirat karunayavatirnah kalau. Kalau means this age, this age of Kali, which is very much contaminated, or the age of quarrel and disagreement. This is called Kali, age of Kali. So Rupa Gosvami says that "In this age of Kali, where everything is disagreement and quarrel, you have descended to offer the highest, topmost love of God." Samarpayitum unnatojvala-rasam. "And not only topmost, but very brilliant rasa, transcendental mellow, humor." Anarpita-carim cirat karunayavatirnah kalau samarpayitum unnatojvala-rasam sva-bhakti-sriyam, harih purata-sundara-dyuti: "Your complexion is just like golden, luster of gold. So You are so kind. So I bless everyone..." Gosvamis, they can bless because they are master of the senses. "...that this form of the Lord, Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, may always remain dancing in your heart." Another place, when Rupa Gosvami first met Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu at Prayag, Lord Caitanya was dancing on the street, "Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna." At that time also, he offered one prayer, namo maha-vadanyaya krsna-prema-pradaya te: [Cc. Madhya 19.53] "Oh, You are the most munificent of all incarnation because You are distributing love of Godhead." Krsna-prema-pradaya te, krsnaya krsna-caitanya-namne gaura-tvise namah: "You are Krsna Himself, because without being Krsna, You cannot distribute Krsna-prema. Love of God or love of Krsna is not so easy thing, but You are distributing freely to everyone."
So this sankirtana movement was inaugurated in Bengal in India and in Navadvipa. So in this sense the Bengalis are very fortunate that in their country this movement was inaugurated by Lord Caitanya, and He predicted that... Those who are Bengalis here present, they will understand.
He predicted that "As many villages and towns there are all over the world, everywhere this sankirtana movement will be preached." That is His future prediction. So by the grace of Lord Caitanya, this movement is already introduced in the Western countries, beginning from New York. Our first movement, the sankirtana movement, was introduced in New York. I came in New York first, and I began to chant this Hare Krsna mantra in the Tompkinson Park. Is that Tompkinson Park or Square?
Devotee: Tompkins Square.
Prabhupada: Tompkins Square. So I was chanting there for three hours with a little small mrdanga, and these boys, American boys, they assembled, and gradually they joined. And it is increasing. First of all it was started in New York in a storefront, 26 Second Avenue. Then we started our branch in San Francisco, in Los Angeles, in Santa Fe, in Buffalo, then here. We have got now twenty branches, including one in London and one in Hamburg. And in London, the boysthey are all American boys, American boys and girlsthey are preaching. They are not sannyasi, neither they are Vedantist, neither they are Hindus, neither they are Indian. But they have taken this movement very seriously. Here one lady from London, she has come. She was very much praising about their movement. And in London Times there was an article. They said that "Krsna Chanting Startles London." So we have got many followers now. All my disciples till now, at least in this country, they are all Americans and Europeans. They are chanting, dancing. They are issuing paper, Back to Godhead. Now we have published so many books, Srimad-Bhagavatam, Bhagavad-gita As It Is, Teachings of Lord Caitanya.
So this movement is not like that is a sentimental movement. Don't think that these boys are dancing in some religious sentiment or fanaticism. No. We have background. We have background, highest philosophical and theosophical. Whatever you like. Just like Caitanya Mahaprabhu. Caitanya Mahaprabhu, while He was preaching, He went to Benares. So Benares is the seat of Mayavadi sannyasis. The followers of Sankaracarya, they are mostly seen in Benares, Varanasi. When Caitanya Mahaprabhu was there, He was chanting and dancing. So some of the people, they became very much appreciative of Caitanya Mahaprabhu's dancing and chanting, and there was a big sannyasi, Prakasananda Sarasvati, leader of many thousands of Mayavadi sannyasis. So somebody went to him and said, "Oh, from Bengal one young sannyasi has come. Oh, He is so nicely chanting and dancing." So Prakasananda Sarasvati, he was a great Vedantist. He did not like the idea. He said, "Oh, He is a pseudo sannyasi. He is chanting and dancing. This is not the business of a sannyasi. This is the... Sannyasi should always engage himself in the study of philosophy and Vedanta, and He is simply chanting and dancing?" So he remarked that "He's a pseudo sannyasi. He is not actually sannyasa." Then one of the devotees, he did not like the idea, remark of Prakasananda Sarasvati. He came back and informed Lord Caitanya that "These people are blackmailing You. I cannot tolerate this. So if something can be done to stop this blackmailing?" So that's a long history. So one devotee, he arranged the meeting of all the sannyasins, and Caitanya Mahaprabhu was also invited, and there was Vedanta philosophical discussion between Prakasananda Sarasvati and Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu. This description and philosophical discussions are given in our Teachings of Lord Caitanya, and it is very nice that Prakasananda himself with his, all his disciples, they became Vaisnavas. The idea is... Similarly, Caitanya Mahaprabhu had a great discussion with Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya, the greatest logician of that time. He was also Mayavadi, impersonalist.
So Caitanya Mahaprabhu's movement is not sentimental. People think that this is a sentimental movement. No. We have got very good background. If one wants to understand this sankirtana movement through philosophy and learning and logic, oh, there is ample opportunity. It is not sentimental. It is based on science and based on authority of Vedas. But it is simplified. That is the... That is the beauty of this movement. Either you are great scholars or philosopher, or either you are a child just like this child, everyone can take part, without any difficulty. Any system of self-realization, either jnana process or yoga process or any process, they are also recognized, but they are not possible to be practiced in this age. That is not possible. That is the verdict of the Vedas.
In the Satya-yuga it was possible to execute the meditation process. Just like Valmiki Muni. He meditated for sixty thousands of years to get perfection. So where is your age? Besides that, that process, meditation process, are described in the Bhagavad-gita. You have to select a secluded place, you have to execute it alone, you have to sit down in such a posture, you have to completely lead a life of celibacy, and so many rules and regulations. So astanga-yoga, meditation, that is not possible. But if you are satisfied by doing some imitation, that is different thing. But if you want right perfection, then you have to execute all the different stages of yoga practice, astanga-yoga. There are eight divisions: dhyana, dharana, asana, pranayama... So if it is not possible, then it is waste of time. What is the ultimate goal of yoga process or meditation? To contact the Supreme, the Supersoul, the Supreme Lord. That is the aim and object of yoga process. Similarly, philosophical research, jnana process, that is also, the aim is to understand Supreme Brahman, realize Brahman. So they are recognized process undoubtedly, but according to authoritative description, those processes are not practical in this age. Kalau tad dhari-kirtanat. Therefore one has to take to this process of hari-kirtana. Anyone can take, without any prequalification. You haven't got to study philosophy or Vedanta. This Vedanta philosophy was very much discussed between Prakasananda Sarasvati... Prakasananda Sarasvati asked first of all Caitanya Mahaprabhu that "I understand that You are were a very good scholar in Your previous life." Caitanya Mahaprabhu actually was a very great scholar. His name was Nimai Pandita. And at the age of sixteen years old He defeated one great scholar from Kashmir, Kesava Kasmiri. So He was a great scholar. So Prakasananda Sarasvati asked Him that "I understand that You are a great scholar, Sanskrit scholar, and especially in logic You are a very good scholar. And You are now sannyasi. You were born in a brahmana family. How is that You are chanting and dancing without reading Vedanta?" This was the first question made by Prakasananda Sarasvati. And He replied, "Yes. The thing is that when I was initiated by My spiritual master, he said that 'You are fool number one [Cc. Adi 7.71]. You don't discuss Vedanta. Simply You will spoil Your time. Please take to this chanting Hare Krsna, and You will be successful.' " That was His reply.
So Caitanya Mahaprabhu was not a fool, but Vedanta is not for fool. It requires sufficient education, sufficient status. Then one can understand Vedanta. In each and each code, each word, there are volumes of meaning, and there are many commentation, commentary by Sankaracarya, commentary by Ramanujacarya, commentary by..., big, big volumes in Sanskrit language. So how one will understand Vedanta? It is not possible. It may be possible for one person or two persons to understand what is Vedanta, but for the mass of people it is not possible; neither it is possible to practice yoga. Therefore this Caitanya Mahaprabhu's method, chanting Hare Krsna... He says, the first installment of gain will be ceto-darpana-marjanam: [Cc. Antya 20.12] All the dirty things from your heart will be cleansed simply by chanting. You chant. There is no expenditure; there is no loss. But as we are chanting, if you kindly chant... You just do it for one week, and you see how much you progress in spiritual knowledge. We are getting many students. Simply by chanting, they are understanding the whole philosophy. They are giving up their bad habits, they are becoming purified, so many things. They are practical. This Society, movement, is started practically not more than two years, 1966, and we have got so many branches. The American boys and girls, they are taking it very seriously and do it very nicely. They are following all rules and regulation, and they are happy. Ask any one of them.
So this is practical, ceto-darpana-marjanam [Cc. Antya 20.12], cleansing the dirty things from the heart simply by chanting Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. Yes. And the next thing is that bhava-maha-davagni-nirvapanam. As soon as your heart is cleansed of all dirty things, then all the problems of material existence immediately solved. Bhava-maha-davagni. It has been compared with davagni. Davagni means the blazing fire in the forest. In this material existence, nobody wants unhappiness, but it comes, forced, by force. That is the law of material nature. Nobody wants that there may be fire, but especially in this country, wherever in a city we go, the fire brigade is always active. You see? Nobody wants fire, but the fire brigade is active. Yes. There is fire. Similarly, nobody wants so many things. Nobody wants death; there is death. Nobody wants disease; there is disease. Nobody wants old age; oh, there is old ageagainst my, against my desire. We should have to think that what is the status of this material existence. This human form of life is meant for understanding. The human form of life is not meant for wasting the valuable life like cats and dogs in the matter of eating, sleeping, mating, and defending. That is not advancement of civilization. The Bhagavata says that "This body is not meant for working very hard simply for sense gratification. No." Nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke kastan kaman arhate vid-bhujam ye: [SB 5.5.1] "To work very hard and satisfy oneself by sense gratification, that is the business of the hogs or dogs, not for human being." The human being, tapa, they should learn tapasya. And especially in India so many great sages, so many great kings, and so many brahmacaris, sannyasis, they passed their life in great tapasya, not to go further. Just see Lord Buddha. Lord Buddha was a prince. He gave up everything, and he engaged himself in tapasya. This is life. King Bharata Maharaja, under whose name India is called Bharatavarsa, when he was twenty-four years old he gave up his kingdom, he gave up his young wife, young children, and went for tapasya. Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, when He was only twenty-four years He gave up His young wife, mother, everything. There are various, many, many examples. India is land of tapasya, but we are forgetting that. We are forgetting. Now we are making it the land of technology. It is surprising that India has gone so down, forgetting its tapasya, the land of tapasya, the land of dharma. Dharma-ksetre kuru-ksetre [Bg. 1.1]. Dharma-ksetre.
So it is not only in India. Everywhere in this age, everything is degraded, degraded in this sense, prayena kalau asmin alpayesu yuge janah. The duration of life is diminished. They are not very much active to understand what is self-realization. And if they are, some of them are very much active, oh, he is misled by so many misleading, so-called leaders. So the age is very corrupting. Therefore this Caitanya Mahaprabhu's process of chanting Hare Krsna is the best method and the simplest method. Harer nama harer nama harer nama iva kevalam. Kevalam [Cc. Adi 17.21]. There is no other alternative. In the Agni Purana this verse appears, harer nama harer nama harer nama iva kevalam. Three times: "Simply chanting Hare Krsna, chanting Hare Krsna," kevalam, "only." You cannot offer any other alternative. No. Only. Harer nama harer nama harer nama iva kevalam. Kalau: "In this age," nasty eva nasty eva nasty eva gatir anyatha, "there is no other alternative for self-realization except this." So we have to accept. There is another version in Srimad-Bhagavatam. Pariksit Maharaja was instructed by Sukadeva Gosvami. He described the faults of this age. There is... In the Twelfth Canto, Third Chapter, you will find. Everything is now being corroborated, what is described five thousand years ago. So in that conclusive portion, Sukadeva Gosvami says, kalau dosa-nidhe rajann hy asti eko mahan gunah: "My dear King, this age, Kali, is full of faulty things, but there is one good opportunity." What is that? Kirtanad eva krsnasya mukta-sangah param vrajet: [SB 12.3.51] "Simply by chanting this Hare Krsna mantra, one becomes liberated and he goes back to Godhead, back to home." So this is practical, this is authorized, and you can yourself test also how you become advanced simply by chanting.
So this Krsna consciousness movement is nothing... It is not a new thing that we have introduced or manufactured. No. It is authorized on the Vedic principle, authorized by acaryas like Caitanya Mahaprabhu and all other acaryas. So join us. You will be happy. Your human life will be sublime. And the method is very simple. There is no loss. We are not charging anything, that "You give me fee. I shall give you some secret mantra, and within six months you shall become God." No. It is open for everyone. Even child, even woman, girls, boys, oldeveryone can take it and chant it and see the result. That is our request. So this Krsna conscious movement is universal movement. I would request you to join. We have got branches here. We are chanting daily twice. Especially we are holding meetings on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. And you try to understand. We have got... Not that we are sentimentalists. We have got books, philosophy, everything. So please join and take advantage of it. That is our request.
Thank you very much. [break] Yes?
Indian man: Would you elaborate what you are doing as New Vrindaban? We heard... What is it you are establishing there?
Prabhupada: Yes. We are not only establishing New Vrindaban, but there is New Navadvipa, New Jagannatha Puri. Yes. We have already started New Jagannatha Puri in San Francisco. The Ratha-yatra festival is going on. And this year there will be a great ceremony of Ratha-yatra in London. There will be three cars: Jagannatha, Subhadra and Balarama. And it will be taken to the riverside, Thames. So this American land, they have imported "New England," "New York"; why not New Vrindaban? So you should all join. Those who are Indians, they should join this movement especially to establish this New Vrindaban. Because Lord Caitanya recommended, aradhyo bhagavan vrajesa-tanayam. The vrajesa-tanaya, Krsna, the son of Nanda Maharaja in the Vrndavana dhama, or Vrajabhumi, He is the supreme worshipable Deity. Tad-dhama vrndavanam. And His place, Vrndavana, is also worshipable. So these Western boys and girls, they are taking to Krsna consciousness. So they should have a place like Vrndavana. So here is present our Swami Kirtanananda. He went to Vrndavana with me two years ago, and he has taken the idea, what is Vrndavana. So I have instructed him that "You should construct at least seven temples." In Vrndavana there are five thousand temples, not one, two. Five thousand temples of Radha-Krsna. But the most important temples are seven, established by the Gosvamis. So our program is to live there, depending on agriculture and cow, cow protection and agriculture. That should be the economic solution. And peacefully be in Krsna consciousness, chant Hare Krsna. That is the Vrndavana scheme. Yuktahara-viharasya yogo bhavati siddhidah. This human form of life is not meant for increasing artificial needs. We should be satisfied just to maintain the body and soul together, and balance time we should save for enhancing our Krsna consciousness, or spiritual consciousness, so that after this body we haven't got to make another material body, but we go back to home, back to Godhead. That should be the motto of human life.
Another thing I may inform you in this connection, that when I first came to New York, one big man in India, mean rich man, Sir Padampat Singhania of Kanpur, I had correspondence that "Singhaniaji, if you give me some money, I can construct a temple here of Radha-Krsna." So he was ready. He said that "Swamiji, whatever amount you want, I can give, provided the government gives sanction." So I had many correspondence with the government, but they did not give me sanction. But here the embassy, they have given me sanction that "You can raise funds from the residents in America and construct temple." So you are so many Indians. If you help me, I can construct temples everywhere. We have got many assistants. Of course, the American rich men, they are not coming. The boys and girls who have joined me, they are very not rich but very sincere. They are working and maintaining these twenty centers. We have got good expenditure. You know. It is America. Sometimes we have to spend two thousand dollars in every center. So Krsna is giving us opportunity. Although there is no temple, but we are, I mean to say, our own temple, but temples we have got everywhere. We have got our Deity, Jagannatha, Radha-Krsna. They are being worshiped nicely, and we are offering prasadam. Every Sunday we are distributing prasadam. So the system is going on. Especially if you go to Los Angeles, we have got the biggest temple there. At least, daily, fifty, sixty persons are taking prasadam. On Sunday there are guests, more than one hundred. They are taking part. It is going on nicely. Similarly, we'll have in every place. So that foretellng, prediction of Lord Caitanya, prthivite ache yata nagaradi grama, that time has come. Let us cooperate and distribute this nice thing, Hare Krsna movement. People will be happy. [break]
Indian man: Is there any place in the movement for the drug addicts, a new class which has come...
Prabhupada: Yes. Our students are forbidden not to accept any kind of intoxication. They do not drink even tea or coffee, or they do not smoke, what to speak of other things. That is our first condition to become disciple: no illicit sex life, no intoxication, no meat-eating, no gambling. These four things must be there. Otherwise we don't accept anyone as disciple.
Indian man: Because for an average American, a man in the street who doesn't know what Hinduism means, he thinks...
Prabhupada: This is Hinduism.
Indian man: ...probably this is a meeting of hippies going on here.
Prabhupada: Hippies who are coming in our touch, they are giving up all these things even. Because they are not guidedmisguidedthey are seeking after something better, but there is no leader. But this movement will give them relief, to everyone. We are... Anyone who comes to us for initiation, our first condition is that there should be no illicit sex life, no boyfriend-girlfriend. No. Just get yourself married. Although I am sannyasi, I have no connection with this marriage, but I do it for the sake of my disciples, just to settle them nicely. So all the boys or girls, they are being married. In Boston, while I was coming, there was three couples married. So they are living peacefully. There is no intoxication. They do not smoke even, do not take even tea or coffee. And they are taking nice prasadam every day. They are happy, they are healthy, and chanting Hare Krsna. That's all.
Indian man: Could I ask a question?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Indian man: Is there a basic conflict between a spiritual life and material living? How does the philosophy...?
Prabhupada: No. Material life means eating, sleeping, mating and defending. This is material life. And spiritual life means something more than this. Just like animal life or human life. Animal life, the common formula is eating, sleeping, mating and defending. A dog also eats; a man also eats. A man also sleeps, and a dog also sleeps. The man also have sex life, and the dog also have sex life. The dog also defends in his own way, and man also defends in his own way, maybe atomic bomb. That is a different thing. But the defense, defense measure... These four principles are common between human being and animal. So advancement of these four principles is not human civilization. That is animal civilization. That is not human civilization. And human civilization means that athato brahma jijnasa, the Vedanta-sutra says. The Vedanta-sutra, first aphorism is athato brahma jijnasa: "Now it is the time for inquiry about the Brahman." That is human life. Without this inquiry, that is animal life. So that is material life and... So long one is not spiritually inquisitive, jijnasu sreya uttamam, he is animal because he has got only these four principles: eating, sleeping, mating and defending. That's all. He must be inquisitive, "What I am? Why I am put into these miseries of lifebirth, death, old, disease? Is there any remedy?" These things should be questioned. Then it is human life. Then it is spiritual life. Athato brahma jijnasa. This is the beginning of Vedanta. Brahma-jijnasa: One should be inquisitive to understand what is Brahman. That is spiritual life.
So our Vedic system was so nicely designed that automatically one will be elevated to the understanding of Brahman. This caste system is condemned because they have been vitiated by designing person. Actually, caste system, as it is stated in the Bhagavad-gita, catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah... [Bg. 4.13]. According to division of qualities, there are caste system everywhere. Goodness, passion, and ignorancethese three qualities are working in the material nature. The persons who are in goodness, they are called brahmanas. Not that birth. Krsna does not say, "By birth." Catur-varnyam maya srstam guna-karma-vibhagasah. There is no question of birth. Simply by quality. Quality, the division is everywhere: intelligent class of men, administrative class of men, productive class of men, and laborer class of men. This is brahmana, sudra... That's all. So everything should be taken scientifically. Human... That is human civilization, human life; otherwise animal life. Spiritual life means human life, and material life means animal life. That's all. So we have to make adjustment, as it is recommended in the Bhagavad-gita, yuktahara-viharasya. It does not mean because I am going to be spiritual man, I shall give up eating. No, not that. But my eating should be adjusted. These things are described in the Bhagavad-gita, what class of foodstuff is first class, in goodness, and what class of foodstuff in the passion, third class, in ignorance. So we have to raise ourself in the goodness platform of human civilization, then revive our transcendental consciousness or Krsna consciousness. These things are, everything is there in the sastras. Unfortunately, we do not consult. [break]
Unless one is liberated from the clutches of these three modes of material nature, he cannot understand what is God. Prasanna-manaso. He must be Brahman-realized soul. Brahma-bhutah prasannatma na socati na kanksati [Bg. 18.54]. These things are there. So you should take advantage of these sastras and preach. That is the responsibility to the Indian. Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu has said,
"Anyone who has taken his birth in India as human being, he should learn all the sastras, make his life successful, and distribute this." That is the responsibility of India. This is the injunction of Lord Caitanya. Bharata-bhumite manusya-janma haila yara [Cc. Adi 9.41]. So Bharatabhumi is not... To take birth in India is not ordinary thing. You must know. But you should utilize the opportunity. That utilization you should read, study, understand volumes of Vedic literature, and you should distribute the knowledge to the rest of the world. Rest of the world, they know God is great, but they do not know how great is God. That you will find in the Vedic literature. And that is our duty. That is kirtana, hari-kirtana. Param vijayate sri-krsna-sankirtanam, to glorify. So I shall specially request our Indian nationals to join this movement and distribute the knowledge. I am doing it now alone. And if you join, it will be great help to this movement. Try to understand.
Indian man: We understand from the newspaper that there is a temple which has been started on East 20th Street. Can somebody tell us at what stage it is?
Prabhupada: In New York?
Indian man: Here in Columbus. We read in newspaper yesterday.
Prabhupada: Oh, yes. That is our temple. Our temple, yes. So you come and see. That is just started for the last few weeks only. Yes. But we have got very nice temples in Los Angeles, in New York, in San Francisco.
Indian man: We saw the one in Montreal.
Prabhupada: In Montreal also. You saw me there?
Indian man: Yeah, we saw last year.
Prabhupada: Last year, no. I think in June I was there. Montreal also we have got. In Vancouver we have got. So as these boys are growing, so we are starting. Bala bari duhkha kande (?). When the children are grown up, the father's labor diminishes. So all right. Chant Hare Krsna. Please join with us. (end)

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