Morning Walk – June 19, 1976, Toronto
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Morning Walk
- June 19, 1976, Toronto 760619MW-TORONTO [20:06 Minutes]
We are not so fool
Prabhupada: ...to live like them, to dance like them, to dress like them, to smoke like them, to stand like them. [laughter]
Hari-sauri: What... Baḍa? That means?
Prabhupada: Baḍa-sab. Baḍa-sab-big master.
Hari-sauri: Oh, big master.
Pusta Krsna: Sahib or sab?
Prabhupada: The word is sahib, but short cut, sab.
[break] ...standing for twelve years here? No.
Hari-sauri: No, he's show-biz, show-business. [break]
Devotees: Hare Krsna, good morning.
Prabhupada: [Transl. Somehow or other that should be solved and rest of the time engage in the service of the Supreme Lord.]
Indian man: [Transl. That is human life.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Otherwise, roaming like hogs here and there whole life "Where is money, where is money," that is not human life. That is what is taught nowadays. Work very hard, have sex, and enjoy life-modern civilisation.] This is modern civilization. [Transl. Not modern, it's always been there. Work hard, eat all nonsense and enjoy sex. That's all. That is wanted. No interest in the purpose of life. They are not taught also. They are kept in the hog's mentality. The sastra forbids this,] nayam deho deha-bhajam nr-loke kastan kaman arhate viḍ-bhujam ye [SB 5.5.1]. Don't be hogs. Be human beings. This is hog civilization. [Transl. Work hard whole day look for stool and eat it. And when it is fat have sex with mother, sister, daughter, no discrimination. This is hog's business. That is why it is called hog. Why is one addressed as a hog? It works whole day, eats stool and as soon as it becomes healthy it indulges in sex. This is hog's life. In India or everywhere one is condemned as a hog, why? His life is like that.]
Indian man: [Transl. Son of a pig, they say.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Yes. They work hard day and night, eat stool, and as they become little fat immediately] sex. Don't care whether he's mother, sister or daughter. No, no. This is going on.]
Indian man: [Transl. The character of Indians has degraded so much Prabhupada.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Must be degraded.]
Indian man: [Transl. Very much. Where we were staying with the devotees people would be staring at the girls only and never at the devotees or in the chanting of the Lord's name. The same thing in Agra and Delhi also. Now there are many shops for selling meat there. Before, these things were not in public.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. No. They sell secretly.]
Indian man: [Transl. In Gujarat they sell secretly nowadays. Once people found out and they were very angry.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. In Bengal they call them 'du kana kata.' One man's ear was cut off. So he used to always hide it by keeping that ear in the river side. When his both ears are cut off then what to hide? [laughter] You see this side that side both ears are cut off. These rascals both ears are cut off. No question of hiding. What can be done?]
Indian man: [Transl. It is understandable that they don't know anything. They are engaged in their own ways of life. Some are drunkards, some are this or that. They don't know about the higher taste. If they understand the higher taste and give up everything then they feel strange. So are there any cultural trainings or something that can guide them to adopt a good path or stop them from being sinful?]
Prabhupada: [Transl. What culture?]
Indian man: [Transl. Every person, when he takes up devotional service or comes in the association of devotees, he automatically develops a higher taste, so much so that he begins to feel sense gratification inferior and starts to hate it. The point is that everyone wants it but…]
Prabhupada: [Transl. No, they don't want. Had they wanted, it would have taken only one minute.]
Indian man: [Transl. But the means and facilities…]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Everything is there. But the rascals won't take it.]
Indian man: [Transl. They don't know anything. They have no knowledge.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. No knowledge, therefore they should have associated with sadhus. Even from distance. That's why we open centres. Go and live there and learn. But the rascals won't come.]
Indian man: [Transl. They have no samskara
Prabhupada: [Transl. What samskara these people had? What samskara? Mlecchas, yavanas.]
Indian man: [Transl. Unless something is there from before...]
Prabhupada: [Transl. What was there was there. Now you are being offered. Before you were poor, now you take money. Why don't you take it? And these rascals say that when we will have samskara we will take. Money is being offered and you say when I will have samskara I will take it. This is all nonsense.]
Indian man: [Transl. It requires devotee association, Prabhupada. And devotee association is obtained by good fortune.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. It happens by good fortune. If you don't have good fortune then when you are being offered why don't you take it? That is the reason preaching is required. That you didn't have good fortune, now take it. If one is fortunate he will surely come. And one who is not fortunate he too will come. That's why preaching. When you are being offered without your asking then just take it. What is the question of good fortune?] Why you hesitate? [Transl. Running far away. Despite begging they won't take. Such asses.]
Indian man (2): [Transl. When will you come to Montreal?]
Indian man: [Transl. He has come from Montreal.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Let us see when the Supreme Lord desires.]
Indian man (2): [Transl. I humbly request to come soon.]
Indian man: [Transl. Prabhupada, are you constructing a big temple in Delhi?]
Prabhupada: [Transl. Big temples we can construct all over the world, but there should be enough persons to serve.]
Indian man: [Transl. I think there is just a small temple there. Population is huge in Delhi. Connaught Place is the worst area by the way. People don't have devotion. Actually those who come from villages outside Delhi, they usually visit Birla mandir. So we should have a nice temple there.]
Prabhupada: [Transl. What is the use of coming to the temple if they don't understand the philosophy? Hare Krsna. Without sadhu-sahga these things are not possible.] [break]
[in car]
Satsvarūpa: ...that we have to stick to the tradition. Tat-tat-karma-pravartanat. Then... Not just by mystical devotion.
Prabhupada: There is no proper guide. They manufacture ideas, that's all. Evam parampara-praptam imam rajarsayo viduḥ [Bg 4.2], that path is not there.
[break] ...name? I forgot
Satsvarūpa: Gene. [the priest who joined in LA]
Prabhupada: Gene.
Satsvarūpa: Yes. [break]
Prabhupada: ...building or something...
Visvakarma: Yes, it's a very big exhibit, scientific achievements.
[break] ...come and see it. [break]
Prabhupada: ...their achievement, no more death? As soon as you ask this question, matha kare hehta. Baḍa baḍa bandarera baḍa baḍa peta lahka ḍihgaite saba matha kare hehta. "Big, big monkey, big, big belly, Ceylon jumping, melancholy." [laughs] What scientific advancement? Ask them. Do you think there will be no more death? Matha kare hehta: "Yes, we are trying. Yes." Nonsense, "What is your achievement?" All achievement will be, remain in your back, and you'll have to die. So what you have done, insurance, that you'll enjoy this? You'll be kicked out of the scene at any moment. What you have done for this? What is the answer? Matha kare hehta: "Yes, we are trying." [laughter] Nonsense, you are trying. And we have to see this nonsense. We are not so fool. And if they say, "What you are doing?" "Yes, we are doing that. How to conquer over death." Tyaktva deham punar janma naiti, mam eti [Bg 4.9].
That is we are trying. That is real scientific. Eh? What is method? Very simple: man-mana bhava mad-bhakto mad-yaji mam namaskuru mam evaisyasi asamsayaḥ [Bg 18.68]: "Without any doubt, he comes to Me." This is science. Why shall I waste time? [break]
Svarūpa Damodara challenged one scientist in California that "If I give you the chemicals, can you manufacture life?" He said, "That I cannot say." What you have spoken all this nonsense? Matha kare hehta. And when there is challenge, matha kare hehta. Otherwise, baḍa baḍa bandarera, baḍa baḍa peta, big, big monkey, big, big belly. And when the real question is there, matha kare hehta. Ceylon jumping, melancholy. Hanuman jumped over the ocean, so other monkeys, they also become very proud: "I am..., Hanuman is our leader. We can...," "Can you jump over Ceylon?" Matha hehta.
[break] ...speak all these things, Indian villagers, they will immediately believe. One cobbler... I think I narrated this story. Narada Muni was going to Vaikuntha. Did I say that?
Hari-sauri: I think this story's in Raja-vidya, that small book. The one about the brahmana and the cobbler?
Prabhupada: [laughs] Yes. Cobbler immediately believed when he was informed by Narada Muni that "I saw God is pulling one elephant through the hole of a needle, this side and again this side." The brahmana did not believe it. And as soon as the cobbler-he was also devotee-he heard, oh, he began to pray, "Oh, my Lord can do anything." So Narada Muni, "You believed it?" "Yes, why not?" "How do you believe it?" "I am daily seeing. I am underneath the tree, and so many figs are dropping, and each fig has got thousands of seeds, and in each seed there is another tree. Why should I not believe it?" He did not believe it blindly. With reason. And he gave immediately reason: "When I see this fig tree, big fig tree, and there are millions of figs dropping, and in each fig there are millions of seeds, and each seed there is... Why shall I not believe it?" So nothing is impossible by God, everything.
Satsvarūpa: The brahmana was supposed to be learned in the Vedas.
Prabhupada: Ah, yes. And he said, "These are all...," what is called? Mythology. Why mythology? Why do you think God like you? God is all-powerful; He can do anything. That is real faith. That means you have no faith. "If God can do which tallies with my activities, then I shall believe." What you are? Nonsense. This is their general argument. How we can believe this? And why not believe this? You are seeing so many wonderful things. I gave this example to another man, that there is a coconut tree. Now find out where is the pipe and pumping so that the water is pushed. Show me. You have no idea that such a high height, how water is going there, and full of water. How the water is transferred there? Show me the pipe and pump. You have got the idea, that with pipe and pump we can raise the water. Where is that pipe and pump? Show me. Every day, every moment, we are seeing so many wonderful things. How you are thinking... "I am Dr. Frog. Pacific Ocean may be four feet. All right, five feet. Make compromise, ten feet." [laughter] Rascal. If you think for many millions of years, then you'll have no solution. Panthas tu koti-sata-vatsara-sampragamyo [Bs 5.34]. It is not possible in that way. They have no idea of God.
Hari-sauri: Everything is there, but actually they don't see.
Satsvarūpa: They think that if they follow, they'll still be misled. "Why should I believe? It may not be true."
Prabhupada: But you are already misled. Why not be second time misled? You are already misled, thousand times. Why not try once more? You are making so much arrangement to live comfortably, but you are kicked out. Are you not misled? Bahir-artha-maninaḥ [SB 7.5.31]. You are thinking that by adjustment of this external energy, you will be able to live very happily. Is it possible? You are trying, problem after problem, problem after problem. So you are already misled.
Satsvarūpa: You've said, "Just give this one life to Krsna. You've misgambled so many lives. Why not give one to Krsna?"
Prabhupada: You are misled already so many lives. All right, be misled another life. Sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg 18.66].
Hari-sauri: They're taking a photo today for the BTG, so they'd like if you would pose for five minutes.
Prabhupada: Why not? [end]
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