Morning Walk – January 30, 1974, Tokyo

740130MW-TOKYO [29:03 Minutes]

Ahghripaḥ means the trees. They drink water through the legs

[interspersed with japa throughout]

Devotee (1): ...as a religious organization, so for a society to be registered we have to own the property. So we purchased a house, and I think that we are going to have to keep a Deity in this…, in this temple or this house out there. Otherwise they won't accept it as a religious organization.

Prabhupada: Ah.

Devotee (1): So it is going to be difficult for us to do proper worship for two Deities at once. Is it possible to keep a Deity in the house and just perform mahgala-arotika, and then the rest of the day have it sit?

Prabhupada: Why not?

Devotee (1): Yes?

Satsvarūpa: Pancatattva?

Devotee (1): No, we have to have a…

Prabhupada: Eh?

Devotee (1): …this, eh, mūrtis…

Prabhupada: Radha-Krsna?

Devotee (1): Yes.

Satsvarūpa: Oh.

Devotee (1): Because that is the name of the Temple.

Prabhupada: Somebody must remain there.

Devotee (1): Must remain there?

Prabhupada: Yes. Is it difficult?

Devotee (1): At the moment it is difficult. We are so far away from this temple, about…, about two hours by train.

Prabhupada: Hmm. So?

Devotee (1): They have a special organization which checks on religious organizations, because they're very much afraid of organizations becoming registered and simply making money and then dissolving the society after some time.

Prabhupada: So there is no place for living?

Devotee (1): Yes. It is a small house, but it is so far away.

Prabhupada: No, why not somebody remain there?

Devotee (1): Somebody could remain there.

Prabhupada: Yes. You take care, and as far as possible worship the Deities. After all, he has to eat something.

Devotee (1): Yes.

Prabhupada: So let him prepare something and offer to Krsna.

[dog barking] They have become very busy, and he is so busy for the sake of little bread from the master. What is this meant for? Asphalt?

Devotee (1): It is made to keep the pedestrians out of the street.

Devotee (2): Except at six o'clock in the morning.

Prabhupada: Eh?

Devotee (2): Except at six o'clock in the morning.

Prabhupada: Ah.

Devotee (1): This is a very wealthy neighborhood we have our temple in. All these people here, they are very rich.

Prabhupada: They are not interested?

Devotee (1): No.

Prabhupada: Kasmad bhajanti kavayo dhana-durmadandhan [SB 2.2.5]. Durmada. When one gets money he becomes durmada, highly intoxicated, durmada. Kasmad bhajanti kavayo dhana-durmadandhan…

This is the formula given by Sukadeva Gosvami. Cirani kim pathi na santi: whether old garment are not thrown in the street. Formerly, in your country-in America also they do so-anything old they throw away in the street, even furniture, carpet. So this was the system. Old garments, clothing, they would be thrown in the street, so that any poor man can collect, pick up. Cirani. Cirani means old garments, kim na pathi santi.

Devotee (1): Prabhupada, would you like to come here? There's a park.

Prabhupada: Eh?

Devotee (2): Park.

Devotee (1): There is a small park here.

Prabhupada: Oh. Whether these old garments are not available in the street. Disanti bhiksam naivahghripaḥ. Ahghripaḥ. Ahghripaḥ means the trees. They drink water through the legs. Their food is they are drinking water through the legs.

Devotee (2): Legs?

Prabhupada: Ahghripaḥ. Ahghri means leg.

Devotee (1): Root. Roots.

Prabhupada: [indistinct] alms, clothes, eh? So your garment, pick up from the street, and take alms from the trees. Ahghripaḥ bhrtaḥ apy asusyan. For water go to the river and drink water. Your drinking, food, cloth problem solved. Ruddha guhaḥ kim, the caves…[indistinct]

Devotee (2): See the snow?

Prabhupada: [indistinct]…ruddha guhaḥ kim ajito. And after all these things, Ajita, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, does He not maintain the servants? Kasmad kavayo bhajanti dhana-durmadandhan. Why one should go to these intoxicated, blind rich men? This is mendicant's life. Why one should go?

Devotee (2): [aside] Can I go this way?

Devotee (1): Yes, please.

Prabhupada: [indistinct]

Devotee (1): They go to them for their benefit.

Prabhupada: For their benefit. Not for your subsistence; for their benefit. These rascals are sleeping, thinking life will go in this way, and they have no knowledge that one day death will come and take away all his possessions and kick him out of his place-everyone. This is his ignorance. To give him this knowledge one should go there, not for personal necessities.

Devotee (1): Hmm.

Prabhupada: Better we go to the street.

Devotee (1): All right. The street is right over here; we will come out again.

Prabhupada: Shall we go?

Devotee (1): Yes.

Devotee (2): Shall we cross here?

Devotee (1): No, we can go this way also.

Devotee (2): No, it's a dead end.

Devotee (1): Dead end?

Devotee (2): Yes.

Devotee (1): Right. Srila Prabhupada…

Prabhupada: Eh?

Devotee (1): …we can go up this way.

Prabhupada: This way? All right.

Satsvarūpa: The only exit is up here.

Devotee (1): We can go back the other way.

Prabhupada: There is another path [indistinct].

Devotee (2): This way. How far is that exit? The best way.

Devotee (1): We can go out here, but then we have to cross the street. If we just go back the same way we came.

Prabhupada: All right. Let us go, same way. [break] [indistinct-in car?] ... is person. Generally Lord Buddha [indistinct] is person. How the Supreme can be imperson? Also in this place, [indistinct] how it can be imperson? [break] [walking again]

Devotee (1): Yeah, we go this way, straight. Right straight.

Satsvarūpa: Srila Prabhupada, we heard that some hippies, like in Hawaii, they follow all the instructions of those verses, but that does not make them saintly.

Prabhupada: No…

Satsvarūpa: They just take whatever clothes they can…

Prabhupada: No, simply following this vairagya is useless. That is called markata-vairagya. Markata means monkey. The hippies are like monkeys.

Devotee (2): Monkeys?

Prabhupada: Yes. They are showing that "We have left everything," but they will have whole time sexual intercourse, like the monkeys. So they have renouncement is monkey renouncement. The monkey also lives in the forest naked, eat fruits. These are the vairagyas. But each monkey has two dozen women, you see. So this is called…, this has been described as markata-vairagya. Markata-vairagya. Markata-vairagya is forbidden the hippies are markata-vairagya. Their renouncement is like the monkeys. They are living in the forest, naked, eating fruits, but at the same time every three, four women, and having [indistinct] and sex intercourse. That is [indistinct]. The renouncing spirit is there.

Devotee (1): We go this way, Srila Prabhupada?

Prabhupada: Eh? [flute sound in the background] Who is it? [indistinct] Why they are covering their mouths?

Devotee (2): When they have colds, they do it to stop the germs from spreading. Everyone wears those over their mouths.

Prabhupada: Germs?

Devotee (2): Germs, yes.

Prabhupada: What is that germ?

Devotee (1): They don't want to spread the cold to other people. Therefore instead of coughing in their faces they keep this over their mouth.

Prabhupada: Hmm. Like the Jains.

Devotee (1): Yes.

Prabhupada: Buddhists or Jains do like that. Buddhist, Buddhism and Jainism almost the same, or rather Buddhism… Jainism is the imitation of Buddhism. Which way?

Devotee (1): We can go…

Prabhupada: [sound of walking on pebbles] [indistinct], it is difficult to walk, eh?

Devotee (1): Yes.

Prabhupada: This is also park?

Devotee (2): No, this is a man's home.

Devotee (1): Apartment. [indistinct]

Prabhupada: So, [indistinct]? We are leaving?

Devotee (1): Yes. [dog barking]

[break]...street[?]. [break]

Prabhupada: Who makes samosa, you can make in that way. Remember? Are you…?

Devotee (2): How is that you liked them?

Prabhupada: Twice. First of all, soft flame. Then when it is hard, then high flame. Then it will be, crisp. And the dough must be sufficiently added with ghee. Then it will be nice. Filling should be fried, with ghee and masala, chili, salt, [indistinct].

Devotee (1): Yes. We go this way.

Devotee (2): It's a dead end.

Devotee (1): Okay. Huh?

Prabhupada: For the breakfast, you can prepare little halava.

Satsvarūpa: Yes, we are doing that.

Prabhupada: Hot halava, be good. What is the price of this? [referring to tape recorder?]

Devotee (1): This is about $100.

Prabhupada: Oh, it is very costly.

Devotee (1): Yes.

Devotee (2): Because it is small. [aside] Shall we go the other way?

Prabhupada: Which one is the cheapest?

Devotee (1): There are some for five thousand yen, which is about twenty dollars. Japan is very expensive, second most expensive country in the world for...

Devotee (2): Right.

Devotee (1): It's a dead end.

Prabhupada: But for twenty dollars…

Devotee (1): We have to go the other way. The street is closed off.

Prabhupada: Huh?

Devotee (1): The street is closed off. Things are becoming more expensive every day because the yen is losing its potencies. So they have to increase the prices of the merchandise.

Prabhupada: Why [indistinct]? The yen decreasing value?

Devotee (1): Because of shortage of fuel.

Prabhupada: Oh. [japa]

Devotee (2): [indistinct] street.

Devotee (1): Hmm?

Devotee (2): This thing is [indistinct].

Prabhupada: What they will do with this snow?

Devotee (1): They will wait for it to melt.

Prabhupada: Oh. If the temperature is not high…

Devotee (1): Then it remains.

Prabhupada: It will not... [laughs] Left or straight.

Devotee (1): We can go out this way. They are saying that…

Devotee (2): This is ice with dirt over it.

Devotee (3): It's got sand on it.

Prabhupada: Eh?

Devotee (1): They are saying Japan will become covered with ice after some time.

Prabhupada: Whole land?

Devotee (1): Yes. Japan is suffering a very severe dry spell.

Prabhupada: Eh?

Devotee (1): It had a very great dry spell in Japan for about two and a half months. No water, no rain.

Prabhupada: Let them take to Krsna consciousness; everything will be all right.

Is a Buddhist temple, or house?

Devotee (1): No, this is just someone's house. They use those for decorations.

[aside:] [indistinct] Mr. Ogata[?] today?

Prabhupada: Yes.

Devotee (3): I… I cannot read. [break

Prabhupada: [indistinct] feeling cold. Just go. Which way?

Devotee (1): We can go from up here.

Devotee (3): Well, I can go back.

Prabhupada: Eh?

Devotee (1): We are getting closer.

Devotee (2): I think this street here would be…

Devotee (1): The road is thicker now.

Devotee (2): That's Sanjaya.

Sanjaya: [indistinct]

Prabhupada: Thank you. Yes. He is our devotee?

Devotee (1): Yes. His name is Sanjaya.

Prabhupada: Ah.

Devotee (1): He is having a little difficulty.

Prabhupada: What is that?

Devotee (1): He had been staying in Hong Kong for some time…

Prabhupada: Hah.

Devotee (1): …and I think he had too much association with Sudama Vipra…

Prabhupada: Oh.

Devotee (1): …and he has got some funny philosophies about how one should act in Krsna consciousness.

Prabhupada: What is that some philosophy? Manufacturing something?

Devotee (1): Yes. Just [indistinct] become Krsna conscious and not live within the temple and follow all of the principles of devotional life.

Prabhupada: Where they got this philosophy?

Devotee (1): I don't know.

Satsvarūpa: It is the old hippie philosophy: just come back, live in the street.

Devotee (1): He would rather sleep in the train station than to shave his head.

Prabhupada: Eh?

Devotee (1): He would rather sleep in the train station than to come and live in the temple.

Prabhupada: Oh. He does so?

Devotee (1): Yes.

Prabhupada: No, that philosophy I was enunciating, that kasmad bhajanti. But whether… Why he takes shelter of the train station?

Devotee (1): Because he has no money.

Prabhupada: Then, why not with the devotees?

Devotee (1): Because he doesn't want to…

Prabhupada: What the improvement is there, by living in this train station?

Satsvarūpa: Maybe he thinks he is free.

Prabhupada: The temple is also free.

Devotee (1): He doesn't want to adhere to the restrictions of the temple…

Prabhupada: Hmm.

Devotee (1): …rising early for mahgala-arotika.

Prabhupada: Restriction… Even he lives in the train station, he will have to obey the restriction.

Devotee (1): Yes.

Prabhupada: That means he is in madness.

Devotee (1): By sleeping in the train station he doesn't think that it is forced upon him to get up early.

Prabhupada: Huh.

Devotee (1): By sleeping in the train station he doesn't think that these restrictions are forced upon him. Whereas if he stayed in the temple…

Prabhupada: Only for that facility?

Devotee (1): Yes.

Prabhupada: Madman's philosophy.

Devotee (1): But he… The thing is, he thinks that his activities, you will condone them.

Prabhupada: Huh?

Devotee (1): He thinks that you will sympathize with his feelings and allow him to do this.

Devotee (2): There is our home, temple.

Prabhupada: No, we cannot allow this nonsense philosophy.

Devotee (1): Would you like to go to the temple now, or up to your room?

Prabhupada: Huh. Yes. [break]

Devotee (4): [indistinct] Deities are being bathed.

Prabhupada: Not yet.

Devotee (4): Forty-five minutes. [end]